GDT Thread! It’s here - ELECTION “SEASON” 2022 will conclude in 2023

[ChiGoose]

1 minute ago, B-Man said:

WHEN ELECTION DAY LASTS FOR A MONTH 

 

FTA:
 

Murdock quotes the passage in U.S. election law that says: “The Tuesday next after the 1st Monday in November, in every even numbered year, is established as the day for the election, in each of the States and Territories of the United States, of Representatives and Delegates to the Congress,” then asks “what part of that federal statute is unclear?”

 

Americans are casting ballots before candidates have debated; while they know nothing about the health of the candidates they’re voting for; before they realize candidates are going to hide in their basements rather than campaign; before candidates drop out; before events that would change their votes occur

(Google searches for “can i change my vote” peaked at 5 a.m. last Tuesday);

 

before the public learns about the debauched and possible criminal behavior of a candidate’s son – and then the ballots are counted for days and weeks after the election, providing more time and access for those determined to change the outcome.

 

No election will ever be perfect. Fallible humans make errors. But ours would be much cleaner it we abandoned early voting and restricted mail-in voting to only “the sick, infirm, and those who will be – Imagine! – absent on Election Day,” as Murdock suggests. 

 

 

 

 

Don’t fall for the lie that this is suppression, or that it’s a “threat to our democracy,” or any of the objections that Democrats and their media lackeys will manufacture so that they won’t lose their party advantage. End the corruption before the corruption ends our republic.

 

— Written by the I&I Editorial Board

 

https://issuesinsights.com/2022/11/14/when-election-day-lasts-for-a-month/

“Allowing more people to vote is really bad, you guys.”

-People who don’t understand how voting works. 

[B-Man]

2 minutes ago, ChiGoose said:

“Allowing more people to vote is really bad, you guys.”

-People who don’t understand how voting works. 

“Making generalized snide replies is fun, you guys”

 

- people who respond within one minute without reading the entire editorial 

 

 

How fortunate for the board that goose’s simplistic posts are easily forgotten. 
 

[ChiGoose]

10 minutes ago, B-Man said:

“Making generalized snide replies is fun, you guys”

 

- people who respond within one minute without reading the entire editorial 

 

 

How fortunate for the board that goose’s simplistic posts are easily forgotten. 
 

No state has counted every vote on Election Day in modern history. It hasn’t happened. 
 

Getting rid of early voting won’t change that.

 

How unfortunate that B-Man’s misinfo posts are wildly believed on this site. 

Edited November 15, 2022 by ChiGoose

[BillStime]

7 minutes ago, B-Man said:

 

- people who respond within one minute without reading the entire editorial 

 

 

lol - is this you?  

 

You read the headline and didn't watch the video.  

 

8 hours ago, B-Man said:

 

 

LUNACY.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[B-Man]

 

ABOUT “DENIERS”

It all started with Holocaust deniers. That phrase has a clear meaning: it refers to someone who denies that the Holocaust took place. 

But liberals saw potential in the locution, an opportunity to disqualify their opponents without actually making an argument. Thus, they started labeling people as “climate deniers.” What does that mean? Someone who denies that we have a climate? There is no such person. Someone who denies that our climate changes? There is no such person. No: a “climate denier” is anyone who questions any of a long list of theories that liberals string together to justify devastating our standard of living for no good reason.

 

But, hey: they are “deniers,” just like Holocaust deniers, so all argument is at an end.

 

Liberals must have thought that strategy worked, because now we have “election deniers.” Again, one asks, what is an election denier? Someone who denies that we have elections? No. An election denier is anyone who worries that our elections might not be entirely on the up-and-up. Someone other than a Democrat, of course.
 

Democrats have denied the legitimacy of every Republican president since George H.W. Bush, and many other elections besides. Cf. Stacey Abrams. But that’s different. 

 

Of course, it is a fact that our elections are not always on the up-and-up, as the Democrats themselves have often alleged. But if a Republican makes that observation, he is a “denier” like the Iranian mullahs. 

 

Does the Democrats’ crude strategy work? I don’t think so. Despite the Dems’ propaganda blizzard, Americans remain concerned about the integrity of our elections. Rasmussen’smost recent survey documents the point:

 

more at the link: https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2022/11/about-deniers.php

[BillStime]

Just now, B-Man said:

 

ABOUT “DENIERS”

It all started with Holocaust deniers. That phrase has a clear meaning: it refers to someone who denies that the Holocaust took place. 

But liberals saw potential in the locution, an opportunity to disqualify their opponents without actually making an argument. Thus, they started labeling people as “climate deniers.” What does that mean? Someone who denies that we have a climate? There is no such person. Someone who denies that our climate changes? There is no such person. No: a “climate denier” is anyone who questions any of a long list of theories that liberals string together to justify devastating our standard of living for no good reason.

 

But, hey: they are “deniers,” just like Holocaust deniers, so all argument is at an end.

 

Liberals must have thought that strategy worked, because now we have “election deniers.” Again, one asks, what is an election denier? Someone who denies that we have elections? No. An election denier is anyone who worries that our elections might not be entirely on the up-and-up. Someone other than a Democrat, of course.
 

Democrats have denied the legitimacy of every Republican president since George H.W. Bush, and many other elections besides. Cf. Stacey Abrams. But that’s different. 

 

Of course, it is a fact that our elections are not always on the up-and-up, as the Democrats themselves have often alleged. But if a Republican makes that observation, he is a “denier” like the Iranian mullahs. 

 

Does the Democrats’ crude strategy work? I don’t think so. Despite the Dems’ propaganda blizzard, Americans remain concerned about the integrity of our elections. Rasmussen’smost recent survey documents the point:

 

more at the link: https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2022/11/about-deniers.php

 

 

[BillStime]

[B-Man]

 

Media outlets call AZ race for Katie Hobbs over Kari Lake

 

https://twitchy.com/dougp-3137/2022/11/14/media-outlets-call-az-race-for-katie-hobbs-over-kari-lake-as-a-phoenix-station-foretold-last-month/

[BillStime]

7 minutes ago, B-Man said:

 

Media outlets call AZ race for Katie Hobbs over Kari Lake

 

https://twitchy.com/dougp-3137/2022/11/14/media-outlets-call-az-race-for-katie-hobbs-over-kari-lake-as-a-phoenix-station-foretold-last-month/

[BillStime]

🎯

 

 

[The Frankish Reich]

Hahahaha. Just got back from Arizona - signs all over the place with Kari Lake and Trump pics next to each other saying TRUMP ENDORSED.

I guess the Trump-Lake ticket ain't happening after all.

[ChiGoose]

3 minutes ago, The Frankish Reich said:

Hahahaha. Just got back from Arizona - signs all over the place with Kari Lake and Trump pics next to each other saying TRUMP ENDORSED.

I guess the Trump-Lake ticket ain't happening after all.

One of the things I’ve learned taking to campaign people is that campaign staff on big elections hate yard signs because they are a waste of money. 
 

They can benefit for name recognition in down ballot races, but are not worth the investment in top races. 
 

Yet many people still base their expectations on elections on the prevalence of yard signs for a particular candidate. Which is even worse of a predictor due to our geographic polarization. 
 

In any case, now Lake and Trump are both free to run together since they don’t have to worry about doing the responsibilities of elected officials right now. 

[Andy1]

This election will be studied to see why the red wave didn’t occur. One thing I have been wondering is did increased mortality from COVID have an impact on the election? One or two percent makes a difference in some of the close elections. Covid mortality skewed towards older people and republican voters tend to be older. I haven’t seen a study but I would assume that a majority of the over 1 million people who died were republicans. I knew two friends/relatives who died and both were republican. I just wonder what if any impact that had this year.

[The Frankish Reich]

11 minutes ago, Andy1 said:

This election will be studied to see why the red wave didn’t occur. One thing I have been wondering is did increased mortality from COVID have an impact on the election? One or two percent makes a difference in some of the close elections. Covid mortality skewed towards older people and republican voters tend to be older. I haven’t seen a study but I would assume that a majority of the over 1 million people who died were republicans. I knew two friends/relatives who died and both were republican. I just wonder what if any impact that had this year.

This is an interesting point. Ordinarily an uptick in mortality wouldn't matter in an election. But given how close some elections were, and given the strong Republican skew of older voters in a place like Arizona ... it could be a significant contributing factor.

[Big Blitz]

 

We’ll take that gavel thank you very much.  
 

 

 

 

Democracy has clearly been saved!

 

Good job everyone!

[HomeskillitMoorman]

3 hours ago, B-Man said:

WHEN ELECTION DAY LASTS FOR A MONTH 

 

FTA:
 

Murdock quotes the passage in U.S. election law that says: “The Tuesday next after the 1st Monday in November, in every even numbered year, is established as the day for the election, in each of the States and Territories of the United States, of Representatives and Delegates to the Congress,” then asks “what part of that federal statute is unclear?”

 

Americans are casting ballots before candidates have debated; while they know nothing about the health of the candidates they’re voting for; before they realize candidates are going to hide in their basements rather than campaign; before candidates drop out; before events that would change their votes occur

(Google searches for “can i change my vote” peaked at 5 a.m. last Tuesday);

 

before the public learns about the debauched and possible criminal behavior of a candidate’s son – and then the ballots are counted for days and weeks after the election, providing more time and access for those determined to change the outcome.

 

No election will ever be perfect. Fallible humans make errors. But ours would be much cleaner it we abandoned early voting and restricted mail-in voting to only “the sick, infirm, and those who will be – Imagine! – absent on Election Day,” as Murdock suggests. 

 

 

 

 

Don’t fall for the lie that this is suppression, or that it’s a “threat to our democracy,” or any of the objections that Democrats and their media lackeys will manufacture so that they won’t lose their party advantage. End the corruption before the corruption ends our republic.

 

— Written by the I&I Editorial Board

 

https://issuesinsights.com/2022/11/14/when-election-day-lasts-for-a-month/

 

Cry, cry, cry. I hope you weren't one of the embarrassing Bills fans who said the Miami loss wasn't fair because it was so hot. 

[ChiGoose]

5 minutes ago, HomeskillitMoorman said:

 

Cry, cry, cry. I hope you weren't one of the embarrassing Bills fans who said the Miami loss wasn't fair because it was so hot. 

Shhhh… you can’t let your facts get in the way of their feelings. It’ll make them very upset!

[HomeskillitMoorman]

1 hour ago, Big Blitz said:

 

We’ll take that gavel thank you very much.  
 

 

 

 

Democracy has clearly been saved!

 

Good job everyone!

 

You're right, they should just hand over the Senate and Governor since the Treasurer did well. 

 

You don't see anything like this amount of crying and whining over the Dems losing the house. The other side needs to grow up. 

3 hours ago, BillStime said:

 

Hahaha, as someone on twitter said "When a Cheney shoots, they don't miss!"

 

[Doc Brown]

4 hours ago, Big Blitz said:

 

We’ll take that gavel thank you very much.  
 

 

 

 

Democracy has clearly been saved!

 

Good job everyone!

How hard would it be to flip 2 to 5 Republicans (depending on the final results) to vote with Democrats in the House on some things depending on the results?  Usually there's at least a 10 seat buffer.  Is McCarthy the right man for the job?  Having a razor thin majority makes it extremely difficult to both put out legislation and obstruct every democratic legislative proposal.

[Sundancer]

13 hours ago, B-Man said:

 

You are wrong on both counts.

 

You are being led, with your "election denier" silliness.  That is the lazy way that many Leftists try and pigeon hole all dissent.

 

Nah. She’s talking about cheating and finding ballots. Fantasy believer. 

 

13 hours ago, B-Man said:

 

Questioning mistakes and delays is not denying.

 

It is when you lead with cheating conclusion.

 

13 hours ago, B-Man said:

 

 

And ignoring the decade that I have read responses on here, and just going by today's posts alone. . . . . . . . . . . . . . PPP in not a sane place.

 

 

 

 

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Sane-er.

[Tiberius]

 

[Backintheday544]

 

[Big Blitz]

 

[BillStime]

 

[Backintheday544]

1 hour ago, Big Blitz said:

 

From a Reddit poster tracking races:

 

House races to keep an eye on: (update every 2 hours) 

Since last update - no updates

Cali 47: 1,3% D at 77% counted - it was 3% D at 72% counted - it was 3% D at 70% - it was 2% D at 64% counted. Bad batch of vote for the Dems. 

Cali 49: 5% D at 84% counted - it was 5% D at 79% counted - it was 5% D at 71% counted - it was 4% D at 64% counted 

Cali 13: 0,75% D at 78% counted - it was 0,11% R at 61% counted - it was 0,35% R at 58% (just recently flipped blue but there are still a lot of votes left) 

That is 3 races that D have a small lead that they need to keep. They also have to flip the R lead in all 4 of these races to get the house. 

Cali 22: 5% R at 53% counted (trending D since it was 8% R when it was 43% counted) 55% of the remaing votes from Kern county needs to go D and/or D need to limit the expected losses in Tulare county. 

Cali 27: 9% R at 70% counted - it was 11% R at 67% counted - it was 12% R at 61% at counted (this is unlikely to flip to D but hopefully mail ballots can make up the difference) 

Cali 3: 6% R at 53% counted (this race is unlikely to flip) 

Co 3: 0,35% R at 99% counted (next vote dump is Thursday) 

Most to least likely D

211 safe D 

212 - Cali 49 - 95% chance 

213 - Cali 47 - 80% chance - down from 95% 

214 - Cali 13 - 70% chance - up from 60% 

215 - Cali 22 - 40% chance - down from 50% 

216 - Co 3 - 30% chance (allegedly) 

217 - Cali 27 - 10% chance 

218 - Cali 3 - 1% chance 

These percentages with the exception of co 3 are done by me from what I remember, if I am wrong about some of them then please let me know

Current house prediction: R 221 - D 214

 

 

[wnyguy]

Surprise, surprise. Looks like the delay to count all those votes worked. again. What a country. 

[ChiGoose]

4 minutes ago, wnyguy said:

Surprise, surprise. Looks like the delay to count all those votes worked. again. What a country. 

That’s not how this works. It’s not how any of this works. 
 

The absolute dearth of civics education on this board is staggering. 

[BillStime]

4 minutes ago, ChiGoose said:

That’s not how this works. It’s not how any of this works. 
 

The absolute dearth of civics education on this board is staggering. 

All by design.

[muppy]

54 minutes ago, BillStime said:

 

senor cruz looks like a swarmy used car salesman in cheap clothing. Who dresses him?

 

LOL

 

sorry, carry on-m

[wnyguy]

Just now, ChiGoose said:

That’s not how this works. It’s not how any of this works. 
 

The absolute dearth of civics education on this board is staggering. 

All I know is what I see. Voting machines "malfunctioning", people being told to leave their voting locations and sent elsewhere, ballots being counted in the dark, improper validation of ballots being counted, it's 2020 all over again. 

[BillsFanNC]

That bastion of conspiracy theorists and election deniers at the NYT said what?

 

Oh.

 

And keep in mind they raised these concerns when 20% of the ballots were by mail. Fast forward to 2020 when 40% of ballots were cast by mail and guess what?  It's the most secure election in US history!

 

Magic!

 

 

Voting by mail is now common enough and problematic enough that election experts say there have been multiple elections in which no one can say with confidence which candidate was the deserved winner,” Baker wrote before urging readers to guess who made the remarks.

 

Another presidential tweet? Some right-wing pundit promoting a debunked theory about mail-in ballots in an effort to delegitimize the election? Try the New York Times,” Baker wrote.

 

Also interesting that Twitter still censoring potential sensitive content ........from the NYT.

 

 

Edited November 15, 2022 by BillsFanNC

[ChiGoose]

9 minutes ago, wnyguy said:

All I know is what I see. Voting machines "malfunctioning", people being told to leave their voting locations and sent elsewhere, ballots being counted in the dark, improper validation of ballots being counted, it's 2020 all over again. 

Where have voting machines malfunctioned? (Just know that if you say Maricopa County, you’re wrong. That was a false story that has been debunked).

 

Every election has some issues. Here in Chicago, there was an issue with sharpies bleeding through the ballot. My wife had to redo her ballot because of this. Inconvenient, but it wasn’t some grand strategy to affect the outcome of the vote. 
 

What is truly happening here is that we are having a fairly normal election but some races are razor close so they aren’t being called until more votes are counted. But even in states where the races have been called, they are still counting. It’s just that the margin was so big they could call the races before all of the vote was in. In Illinois, they could call the governor’s race within minutes because it was clearly a blowout. 
 

The real problem is that there are a lot of people who don’t understand how it all works who are being mislead by bad faith actors to believe that a fairly normal process is actually something suspicious. 

 

 

[BillsFanNC]

@ChiGoose defending the indefensible?

 

Again.

 

I'm totally shocked.

[ChiGoose]

Just now, BillsFanNC said:

@ChiGoose defending the indefensible?

 

Again.

 

I'm totally shocked.

Just trying to explain reality. 
 

Facts don’t care about your feelings.  

[BillsFanNC]

Louder please @ChiGoose I can't hear you.

 

Was the NYT lying in 2012 or are they lying now?

 

 

Edited November 15, 2022 by BillsFanNC

[B-Man]

 

 

The red wave was real in New York and the GOP can build on it

by Mike Lawler

 

There’s something happening in New York. Tuesday’s mini red wave here only scratches the surface. New Yorkers are getting sick and tired of woke liberalism, and it’s showing in pockets of voters once considered the base of the Democratic Party. In short, there’s a crack in the traditional Democrat coalition, and Republicans have an enormous opportunity to expand that breach with time-tested arguments in the coming months and years. In the Hudson Valley, where I prevailed on Election Night over Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee (DCCC) chairman Rep. Sean Patrick Maloney — the first time in 42 years that a DCCC chairman lost re-election — voters once considered unreachable by Republicans

 

https://nypost.com/2022/11/13/red-wave-was-real-in-new-york-and-the-gop-can-build-on-it/

 

 

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[Sundancer]

6 minutes ago, B-Man said:

 

 

The red wave was real in New York and the GOP can build on it

by Mike Lawler

 

There’s something happening in New York. Tuesday’s mini red wave here only scratches the surface. New Yorkers are getting sick and tired of woke liberalism, and it’s showing in pockets of voters once considered the base of the Democratic Party. In short, there’s a crack in the traditional Democrat coalition, and Republicans have an enormous opportunity to expand that breach with time-tested arguments in the coming months and years. In the Hudson Valley, where I prevailed on Election Night over Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee (DCCC) chairman Rep. Sean Patrick Maloney — the first time in 42 years that a DCCC chairman lost re-election — voters once considered unreachable by Republicans

 

https://nypost.com/2022/11/13/red-wave-was-real-in-new-york-and-the-gop-can-build-on-it/

 

 

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Murdoch's paper is trying so hard! 

 

At least he's turning on Trump. 

[B-Man]

On 11/8/2022 at 7:47 PM, LeGOATski said:

When Kari Lake wins Arizona, what's to be made of the ballot machine issues?

 

 

😆

[ChiGoose]

I’d be ok with him as Speaker since it doesn’t look like the Dems will hold the House at this point. 

[Doc]

 

3 hours ago, Big Blitz said:

 

 

Good, the House flips.  That's all I expected.  It wasn't nearly by how much I thought it would but when you see someone like Fetterman get elected, you know what you're dealing with.