Dick_Cheney Posted October 18, 2022 Share Posted October 18, 2022 If we were to have a dome instead of an open air stadium, I fully believe we win an extra championship (I think we'll get 2 in the next 4 years), and Allen and the gang will have a historically good offense. Say what you will about the history of the game, people being crybabies, blah blah blah. The cold weather is terrible. Playing in a controlled environment in Buffalo is what this board should be clamoring for. 2 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted October 18, 2022 Share Posted October 18, 2022 4 minutes ago, Billz4ever said: Why is that? It's a model that has been repeated proven all over the country for years, not just for Domes/retractable roofs. Large indoor venues in general. Because Buffalo is not a destination market. Nashville is. Vegas is. Buffalo is barely a million people with no Fortune 500 corporate presence. I think we need a dome because it would guarantee attendance late into the season. (We aren't going to be Super Bowl favorites forever.) And we might get one or two national events. But we will never need an additional 15,000 hotel rooms. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rochesterfan Posted October 18, 2022 Share Posted October 18, 2022 7 minutes ago, PromoTheRobot said: Super Bowl week needs 25,000 hotel rooms. Metro Buffalo has 9,000. https://www.buffalorumblings.com/2013/5/31/4368898/could-buffalo-host-a-super-bowl Correct, but as was stated right in the article they are allowed to include NF, Rochester, Buffalo, and southern Toronto and at the time of writing the article that qualified as 36,000 rooms - plus unaccounted for rooms on the thruway south and east of Buffalo and along the QEW to Toronto. The weather and the spread out nature is a bigger obstacle, but Goodell did state that similar to NYC - if that was a requirement for a new arena - the NFL would review the bid, but it would have to be a dome - they were not having a cold weather game like NYC again. I still get it - it would be a long shot and the most hated venue - beating out the hatred of Jacksonville that had nothing going on, but the potential was there for discussion. Now maybe privately they were told no way - so don’t bother and I would get that, but Hotel Rooms could be covered - the travel logistics and the spread out nature - with a large number being across the border in NF Canada was a bigger issue. It is not a hill I will die on, but that piece was proven by the very article you provided. They could have worked to force 1 like NYC and Jacksonville, but building a dome for that was deemed a waste. Now if they had moved the stadium to the Northside using NF as the site or even downtown Buffalo with an enhanced Peace Bridge we were promised - maybe the dream could of come true, but not-in OP. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted October 18, 2022 Share Posted October 18, 2022 (edited) 54 minutes ago, Billz4ever said: You said it was too cold, dude. I'm just going to disregard everything else after that since it was such a ridiculous comment. But you apparently also do not understand that if Buffalo were to have a venue like that, which could host events year-round, hotel chains would literally be falling all over themselves to build hotels around it. Yeah, too cold for all the people coming to your city, not for the game itself. Nobody wants to celebrate to frigid Buffalo in the winter. And no. Hotels would not be falling o er themselves to build because of a few more events a year. Edited October 18, 2022 by MJS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billz4ever Posted October 18, 2022 Share Posted October 18, 2022 (edited) 6 minutes ago, MJS said: Yeah, too cold for all the people coming to your city, not for the game itself. Nobody wants to celebrate to frigid Buffalo in the winter. And no. Hotels would not be falling o er themselves to build because of a few more events a year. Then you have no concept of economic development. Too cold for people yet they had the SB in Minneapolis, where it gets colder than Buffalo. And like I said, sounds like your goal here is simply to try and poo poo the idea rather than contribute anything constructive. Edited October 18, 2022 by Billz4ever Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevewin Posted October 18, 2022 Share Posted October 18, 2022 1 hour ago, Mrbojanglezs said: What are the odds the Titans renderings come out before ours Odds are high they come out before Never Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JÂy RÛßeÒ Posted October 18, 2022 Share Posted October 18, 2022 Could they just move the nice stadium they have now to Buffalo and put it back together? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike in Horseheads Posted October 18, 2022 Share Posted October 18, 2022 Taxpayers are putting up 64% if the numbers are correct. I would hardly call that all privately funded. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike in Horseheads Posted October 18, 2022 Share Posted October 18, 2022 19 minutes ago, JÂy RÛßeÒ said: Could they just move the nice stadium they have now to Buffalo and put it back together? A community Jig Saw Puzzle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WyoAZBillfan Posted October 18, 2022 Share Posted October 18, 2022 3 hours ago, Buffalo716 said: Every QB coming into the Ralph in January WILL struggle worse than Josh he can cut it through the winds and others cannot … that’s an advantage Did you watch the last last years wind game with the Pats? The Miami gave this year, several weather games the last 2 years? Sure Josh can play in the weather, maybe the others can’t? Imagine if he played as he did in LA this year all the time and didn’t have to fight the elements….food for thought. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted October 18, 2022 Share Posted October 18, 2022 Not sure why anyone is comparing this to Buffalo… This is 100% in regards to hosting multiple Super Bowls. That’s not happening in too many of the cold weather cities. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChronicAndKnuckles Posted October 18, 2022 Share Posted October 18, 2022 5 hours ago, Buffalo716 said: Because football has been played in the open air for over 140 years Hot , cold , wind , rain and snow are a part of football Bills playing in a dome would just seem wrong. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkyMannn Posted October 18, 2022 Share Posted October 18, 2022 1 hour ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: There will only be a handful of open stadiums in 10-15 years. The team with the worst climate will be one of them. Guarantee within 10 years of the new stadium being built there will be talk of what a mistake an open-air was 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted October 18, 2022 Share Posted October 18, 2022 1 minute ago, WyoAZBillfan said: Did you watch the last last years wind game with the Pats? The Miami gave this year, several weather games the last 2 years? Sure Josh can play in the weather, maybe the others can’t? Imagine if he played as he did in LA this year all the time and didn’t have to fight the elements….food for thought. Again I’m not saying josh wouldn’t be amazing in a dome…. it’s about the other QBs being MUCH WORSE HERE and that NE game WAS a once in generation game … we do not get 65mph gusts regularly we do get 20-30 mph and josh cuts through it like butter … even in the wind game JA hit Diggs 50 yards downfield on a throw nobody alive could make but him … and it was dropped I’ve always stood by that lots of QBs can play the game of their life in perfect conditions… that changes when they come to RWS in January it’s about them being worse … I don’t believe a lot of QBs can come there and win in January 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WyoAZBillfan Posted October 18, 2022 Share Posted October 18, 2022 4 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said: Again I’m not saying josh wouldn’t be amazing in a dome…. it’s about the other QBs being MUCH WORSE HERE and that NE game WAS a once in generation game … we do not get 65mph gusts regularly we do get 20-30 mph and josh cuts through it like butter … even in the wind game JA hit Diggs 50 yards downfield on a throw nobody alive could make but him … and it was dropped I’ve always stood by that lots of QBs can play the game of their life in perfect conditions… that changes when they come to RWS in January it’s about them being worse … I don’t believe a lot of QBs can come there and win in January Understandable, I’m onboard with what your saying. Just don’t think it’s really that relevant, Lamar didn’t struggle in the wind game any more that others in the Ravens playoff game, sure there’s advantages. Just slight in this day and age. Don’t matter if Josh can cut through the wind or that WY weather prepped him some for the cold, if the ball don’t get caught due to frozen fingers or hurts to tackle, or the other fun stuff that players battle in weather. Pride only does so much, sooner or later the misery factors in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nephilim17 Posted October 18, 2022 Share Posted October 18, 2022 8 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said: Again I’m not saying josh wouldn’t be amazing in a dome…. it’s about the other QBs being MUCH WORSE HERE and that NE game WAS a once in generation game … we do not get 65mph gusts regularly we do get 20-30 mph and josh cuts through it like butter … even in the wind game JA hit Diggs 50 yards downfield on a throw nobody alive could make but him … and it was dropped I’ve always stood by that lots of QBs can play the game of their life in perfect conditions… that changes when they come to RWS in January it’s about them being worse … I don’t believe a lot of QBs can come there and win in January I was thinking about this today after listening to some WGR talk about the new Nashville stadium... I thought, yes, Josh will be a bit worse in the snow but other QBs and WRs will be far, far worse because they don't practice in it or play in it multiple times a year (potentially). So an open stadium will hurt Josh's stats but it might not hurt our win total, and may, as 716 says, actually improve our win rate in the winter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike in Horseheads Posted October 18, 2022 Share Posted October 18, 2022 12 minutes ago, MarkyMannn said: Guarantee within 10 years of the new stadium being built there will be talk of what a mistake an open-air was Since the "renderings' are not done how do we know its not roof ready (for some other sucker to pay for) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted October 18, 2022 Share Posted October 18, 2022 26 minutes ago, MarkyMannn said: Guarantee within 10 years of the new stadium being built there will be talk of what a mistake an open-air was If the stadium is basically Tottenham Hotspur stadium it will be a massive upgrade to what we have. I think there is a lack of foresight though. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted October 18, 2022 Share Posted October 18, 2022 I can’t even have this debate anymore. As much as I want a closed-roof stadium, we aren’t getting one. The best to hope for is one that really blocks the wind. Winds over 20 MPH on the field Neutralize our home field advantage. 46 minutes ago, SCBills said: Not sure why anyone is comparing this to Buffalo… This is 100% in regards to hosting multiple Super Bowls. That’s not happening in too many of the cold weather cities. well, if the Bills built a dome, they could actually host a SB. Detroit hosts all the time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Since1981 Posted October 18, 2022 Share Posted October 18, 2022 (edited) 6 hours ago, Buffalo716 said: Because football has been played in the open air for over 140 years Okay Boomer. Amish ride horse/buggy. Doesn’t mean it’s the ideal way to travel. It’s lame. Worst freakin wind, rain, sleet, cold around. 140 yrs? Have you seen how much football changed? Oh wait, you can’t see because boomer is reading the newspaper in his leather helmet? Nice population drop! Edited October 18, 2022 by Since1981 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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