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Why are we playing in KC two years in a row?


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24 minutes ago, SirAndrew said:

I understand it’s no conspiracy, but I laugh when people say the NFL has a “formula”. It’s meaningless intellectual lingo. It reminds me of the old online dating commercial “algorithms”. I’m sure the NFL has a legitimate method, but can it actually be explained? You’d think they’d just switch home/away like college series often do. 

It's not meaningless intellectual lingo. It's quite literally laid out for all to see. 

Just because you either don't care or aren't smart enough to follow it doesn't mean it's not there. 

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Just now, No_Matter_What said:

Lol apparently my English sucks. I think that from my posts in this thread it should be more than clear that I understand how it works :)

 

So my 3rd attempt to write the same thing:

 

I think Virgil understands this, and his question is WHY do we play our AFC West equivalent at home in 2018 and 2019, and the on the road in 2021 and 2022, if much better solution was to rotate these games, so we play our AFC West equivalent at home in 2018 and on the road in 2019 and so on?

 

Can you provide simple answer?

 

My answer is that it is simply not possible to schedule it that way, but it is not very intuitive why and it is not easy to explain.

 

 

As far as I know, there is no answer to that question beyond “that’s how it’s done.”

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54 minutes ago, The Wiz said:

I mean those are kind of conflicting statements but yes you are right.  They use a formula (which is a set thing).  The fact that we have played the Chiefs at arrowhead in 3 regular season games (including next year) is dumb luck.

It’s not even luck really…the afc east vs afc west same placement in division games double up on home teams 2 years in a row before switching.  Then we play the whole afc west once every 3 years and the home team swaps back and forth each meeting.  So we will alternate getting 3 home games in a row then 3 away games in a row against kc assuming we finish in the same position on our division as then every year 

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28 minutes ago, SirAndrew said:

I understand it’s no conspiracy, but I laugh when people say the NFL has a “formula”. It’s meaningless intellectual lingo. It reminds me of the old online dating commercial “algorithms”. I’m sure the NFL has a legitimate method, but can it actually be explained? You’d think they’d just switch home/away like college series often do. 

Yes. It has been properly explained multiple times in this very thread, not to mention the countless times since the schedule came out.

 

It is pretty simple.

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4 minutes ago, No_Matter_What said:

Lol apparently my English sucks. I think that from my posts in this thread it should be more than clear that I understand how it works :)

 

So my 3rd attempt to write the same thing:

 

I think Virgil understands this, and his question is WHY do we play our AFC West equivalent at home in 2018 and 2019, and the on the road in 2021 and 2022, if much better solution was to rotate these games, so we play our AFC West equivalent at home in 2018 and on the road in 2019 and so on?

 

Can you provide simple answer?

 

My answer is that it is simply not possible to schedule it that way, but it is not very intuitive why and it is not easy to explain.

 

 


I definitely wasn’t expecting 3 pages of responses so quick. 
 

I would think the NFL would have wanted to take more interest in the scheduling of these types of games, as they are typically big rating games.  
 

I would think they’d want it in Prime Time and rotate, but that’s just my opinion 

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2 minutes ago, MJS said:

Yes. It has been properly explained multiple times in this very thread, not to mention the countless times since the schedule came out.

 

It is pretty simple.

It is simple, once I learned from actually reading this thread. That’s what’s great about this board, it’s more knowledgeable than most other forums. 

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1 minute ago, Virgil said:

I definitely wasn’t expecting 3 pages of responses so quick. 
 

I would think the NFL would have wanted to take more interest in the scheduling of these types of games, as they are typically big rating games.  
 

I would think they’d want it in Prime Time and rotate, but that’s just my opinion 

It's good that they don't alter the formula. It makes it simple and predictable. It makes it impossible to favor one team over another (the order can do this somewhat, though).

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Just as an example of how formulaic this all is, the Jets are playing the Broncos in Denver for the second straight year. It’s just that because both have been last place teams both times that no one notices. And the Dolphins are going to the chargers and the Pats are going to the Raiders. I know this without looking it up.

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I remember for Peyton Manning's first 5-6 years (at least), they generally played the Colts/Pats game in New England.  There is a method to that.

 

It ended up flipping, as I hope our match-ups with KC do.  We play them well in KC.  If it's in Buffalo, we'll beat them 9x out of 10.

 

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1 hour ago, Virgil said:

Possibly dumb question, but I don’t understand why we are playing at KC during the regular season two years in a row.  
 

Both games are played because both teams won their division each season.  This is not because we are facing the AFC West.  
 

Shouldn’t home and away be rotated?

 

**I fully understand the home and away scheduling for playing divisions.  We play the AFC West next season and will play KC in KC, because KC came to Buffalo the last time we played the AFC West.  

 

Is this a hidden blame Edmunds, he  makes the schedule too thread? 

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39 minutes ago, Bob Chandler's Hands said:

It's not meaningless intellectual lingo. It's quite literally laid out for all to see. 

Just because you either don't care or aren't smart enough to follow it doesn't mean it's not there. 

Hmm.....  If this has been explained so clearly, can you explain it to me like I'm 5?

 

Here is the text from the link the "explained" why Bills were playing in KC.

 

"Two games against teams from the two remaining divisions in its own conference — one game at home and one on the road. Matchups are based on division ranking from the previous season."

 

Thats pretty clear.  It boils down to Bills play the Titans and KC this year.  One home, one away.

 

Why is KC away and Titans game home?  Why not Titans away and KC at home?  THAT is the key question that hasnt been answered in the 50+ replies.

 

If there is a clear "formula" that explains this, please post a link so we all know.

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1 hour ago, Virgil said:

Possibly dumb question, but I don’t understand why we are playing at KC during the regular season two years in a row.  
 

Both games are played because both teams won their division each season.  This is not because we are facing the AFC West.  
 

Shouldn’t home and away be rotated?

 

**I fully understand the home and away scheduling for playing divisions.  We play the AFC West next season and will play KC in KC, because KC came to Buffalo the last time we played the AFC West.  


 

it’s in the formula.

 

every 3 years the divisions face each other. Between those it’s positional games.

 

over a 6 yr cycle its


20 KC—division

21 at KC

22 at KC

23 at KC —division

24 host west team same position

25 host west team same position

26 KC

27 at west

28 at west

29 at KC

 

for tennessee it was

 

2019 at tenn

20 at tenn

21 at tenn ( division)

22 tenn

23 host afc south

24 tenn ( division)

25 at south

26 at south

27 at tenn ( division)

 

after the 2025 season they could resort the scheduling pairs and the schedule patterns

 

2003-2009. After this cycle they changed team pairs in the western divisions where before in was kc-den pair and Chargers-raiders pair to chargers-kc raiders- den. In nfc west they did this too. It was sea-sf as a pair but thrn became sea-rams. That’s why it scheduling format had some 

2004 buf at sea

2008 sea at buf

2012 seat at buf ( Seattle switching team pairs resulting in this)

2016 buf at sea

2020 sea at buf 

 

2010-2017. No changes 

2018-2025   .??

 

for that extra game against the nfc….

 

2021 host east same positional standings

22 at west

23 host south

24 at north

25 at east

26 west

27 at south

28 north 

 

 

 

 

 

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10 minutes ago, pennstate10 said:

Hmm.....  If this has been explained so clearly, can you explain it to me like I'm 5?

 

Here is the text from the link the "explained" why Bills were playing in KC.

 

"Two games against teams from the two remaining divisions in its own conference — one game at home and one on the road. Matchups are based on division ranking from the previous season."

 

Thats pretty clear.  It boils down to Bills play the Titans and KC this year.  One home, one away.

 

Why is KC away and Titans game home?  Why not Titans away and KC at home?  THAT is the key question that hasnt been answered in the 50+ replies.

 

If there is a clear "formula" that explains this, please post a link so we all know.

It has been answered. Last year and this year, the AFC East is playing their AFC West equivalent on the road. We are playing our AFC South equivalent at home. That’s the entirety of both divisions. From first to last: Buf @ KC, NE @ LV, Mia @ LAC and NYJ @ Den. Those are all road games for the AFC East. Last year was the same except the Fins played the Raiders and the Pats played the Chargers. But all the games were in the road. I don’t know why, but they double up like that. In 2024 and 2025, the AFC East will play their games against the AFC West at home.

 

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