TH3 Posted October 1, 2022 Share Posted October 1, 2022 1 hour ago, Protocal69 said: https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/34702740/unaffiliated-neurotrauma-consultant-evaluated-miami-dolphins-qb-tua-tagovailoa-fired-several-mistakes-source-says?linkId=183886679 Mods delete or merge if you feel it's needed He was on the hot seat! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted October 1, 2022 Share Posted October 1, 2022 42 minutes ago, co_springs_billsfan said: Straight from one S. Ross On the yacht?! 🤔 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rc2catch Posted October 1, 2022 Share Posted October 1, 2022 21 minutes ago, BUFFALOBART said: He was in charge of an important Medical decision. Correct? The knife fell, where it needed to fall. I think everyone knew he was in some form of trouble after the Bills game. But I think the majority agrees there’s a little more to the story than just one rogue doctor on gameday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UKBillFan Posted October 1, 2022 Share Posted October 1, 2022 16 minutes ago, BUFFALOBART said: If ‘The Doctor’ is working the Medical Tent, then he is the one making the call. Who else is to blame? Do you think that the team has a secret ‘if Tua gets a concussion?’ Policy in advance? Tua should never have returned to the field, against the Bills Everyone watching that game knew Tua had concussion. It did not need a medical professional to say otherwise; McDaniel could have stepped in and said Tua would not return. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nextmanup Posted October 1, 2022 Share Posted October 1, 2022 12 minutes ago, BUFFALOBART said: A man’s life was at stake, at the end of the day. If the Doc says ‘play’, then he is ultimately to blame It's much more complicated than that; the Doc is absolutely not the only one culpable here. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Duffy Posted October 1, 2022 Share Posted October 1, 2022 54 minutes ago, Gugny said: But wait!! He's an expert and he'd NEVER do anything to jeopardize his career! Right?!? This.....Can't remember who said that....lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boco357 Posted October 1, 2022 Share Posted October 1, 2022 I love how they don't use the words Doctor or Neurologist. I'm sure this guy was a buddy of Steven Ross Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Playoffs? Posted October 1, 2022 Share Posted October 1, 2022 20 minutes ago, BUFFALOBART said: If ‘The Doctor’ is working the Medical Tent, then he is the one making the call. Who else is to blame? Do you think that the team has a secret ‘if Tua gets a concussion?’ Policy in advance? Well… based on the eye test alone, one could question the team doctors, the head coach, the owner, teammates, Tua, etc. He left the game with a head injury. He couldn’t stand on his own. He came back into the game after revising from a head injury to a back injury. Then they proceed to test him for concussions the following days… why? You don’t think there was anything fishy (no pun intended) going on? I sure do. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TampaBillsJunkie Posted October 1, 2022 Share Posted October 1, 2022 yeah, but the science says....... (yawn) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sammy Watkins' Rib Posted October 1, 2022 Share Posted October 1, 2022 1 hour ago, Malazan said: DeMaurice Smith is a moron. He fires this guy which gives a perfect scapegoat for the league and Dolphins. He should have been attacking the protocol and the team. you think Smith is done? This is more than likely just step one. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott7975 Posted October 1, 2022 Share Posted October 1, 2022 55 minutes ago, Pete said: one astute poster raised a great point. The NFL was buying bull#### that is was a back and ankle injury. Why didn't the NFL and Dolphins give back ankle tests and updates? If I was a reporter, I would ask Miami coach- "I's got to know. how is Tuas back? He was obviously hurt. How is Tuas ankle?" Also if they didnt think it was a concussion then why did they check him throughout the week for a concussion? If they were concerned enough that they doubted the initial prognosis then there should have been enough doubt to keep him out of the rest of the Bills game and put him in protocol. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BUFFALOBART Posted October 1, 2022 Share Posted October 1, 2022 21 minutes ago, Rc2catch said: I think everyone knew he was in some form of trouble after the Bills game. But I think the majority agrees there’s a little more to the story than just one rogue doctor on gameday. I would think that any ethical Medical Professional, would not let team politics supersede a proper medical decision. This strikes me as incompetence, rather then a team conspiracy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted October 1, 2022 Share Posted October 1, 2022 1 hour ago, Rc2catch said: Hello Mr scapegoat… Thank you for falling on the knife. Yup, the NFL is 100% culpable but as usual nothing will happen. Big game, lots of viewership. Of course they were going to shove him back out there. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Let's Go Buffalo Posted October 1, 2022 Share Posted October 1, 2022 Anyone with any common sense at all knew that Tua was concussed when his head slammed on the ground, and he got up wobbling in the wrong direction before having to be helped go in the right direction, so there should be other dominoes falling in my opinion as well. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott7975 Posted October 1, 2022 Share Posted October 1, 2022 26 minutes ago, ColoradoBills said: The UNC doctor and the team physician both make the call. Buffalo Channel 7 has this article that is short and concise of the procedures. https://www.wkbw.com/news/local-news/faq-what-actually-happens-when-an-nfl-player-enters-concussion-protocol I do like this part. If the NFL Commissioner determines that a medical team failed to follow the protocol in order to win a game, the Commissioner can require the team to forfeit draft picks and impose fines that can exceed the amounts above. Theres even a better part. The NFL already issued a statement days ago that said Miami followed protocol. Another interesting thing I found is that this is not the first time protocol was in question for Miami and it was found that they didnt follow protocol then either: https://www.nfl.com/news/nfl-statement-on-matt-moore-concussion-protocol-review-0ap3000000779128 Heres a snip Quote The Miami Dolphins were notified in a letter co-signed by Dr. Hunt Batjer, Co-Chair of the NFL Head, Neck & Spine Committee and Dr. Thom Mayer, Medical Director for the NFLPA, that the NFL-NFLPA review determined that the Protocol was not strictly followed. The letter further advised the Dolphins that they must engage their staff in a full review of the Protocol and conduct additional education, if necessary. The Dolphins were also advised that any future deviation from the Protocol may result in enhanced discipline, including monetary fines assessed against the Club. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BUFFALOBART Posted October 1, 2022 Share Posted October 1, 2022 17 minutes ago, TampaBillsJunkie said: yeah, but the science says....... (yawn) Oh, yeah. Science = BAD. (COUGH!) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted October 1, 2022 Share Posted October 1, 2022 1 hour ago, buffaloboyinATL said: Fyi, there is a pretty good conversation on this, in the NFLPA investigation thread. I agree, the Dolphins are going to try and hide behind this. Dolphins kinda should hide behind this. If this independent doctor is saying Tua was fine, you would think the dolphins would just rely on that. I am curious how this works though behind the scenes— does the team doctor just defer to the independent guy? Do they examine him together and consult with each other? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanForever19 Posted October 1, 2022 Share Posted October 1, 2022 1 hour ago, Malazan said: DeMaurice Smith is a moron. He fires this guy which gives a perfect scapegoat for the league and Dolphins. He should have been attacking the protocol and the team. Oh, I'm sure he is. He doesn't have the power to fire team doctors like he did the UNC. I'm sure this is just Step 1. I'd be shocked if the Team Doctor survives this and the Dolphins don't face consequences. As minimal as Offense 1 violation punishment is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motorin' Posted October 1, 2022 Share Posted October 1, 2022 1 hour ago, SlimShady'sSpaceForce said: this one? That looks an awful lot like his finger contortion against the Bengals. It just didn't happen for as long. But the idea that the doctor cleared him when this happened to his fingers right before he collapsed is gross incompetence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Posted October 1, 2022 Share Posted October 1, 2022 Here’s a photo of the bastard! 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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