Cannabis consumption on track to overtake alcohol

[muppy]

1 minute ago, Johnny Hammersticks said:

First of all, @ExiledInIllinois and I bust each other’s chops all the time.  We’ve been “friends” on this board for as long as I remember.  Hell, we even share the same birthday (even though he’s like 30 years older than I).

 

Secondly, I’m sorry if it makes your heart hurt, but the phrase “You’re an idiot” is a long-standing TBDism recognized by most board members as humorous.  
 

Next, while I do poke fun and tease playfully, I have been open to EII’s viewpoints in this thread.  Even though his presence in this thread had been bordering on crusading, IMO, which is against the TOS.  Please read my posts before you judge me.  I even wrote at some point in this thread “I think there are some legitimate questions to be asked here” acknowledging his potential concerns.  While I have an opinion on many things, I don’t pretend to know everything.

 

Lastly, as much as I have no idea who you are and I know nothing about you, I will still respect you as a board member.  That said, don’t try to be a moderator.  If you have a problem with anything I am writing, please feel free to block me or report me.  I’ve been here since April of 2009.  I know the ropes pretty well.

 

Thanks, Muppy 😊 

fof goodness sakes all that from my post? I have no reason to block you. This is a tempest in a teapot.  SMH

[Johnny Hammersticks]

5 minutes ago, muppy said:

fof goodness sakes all that from my post? I have no reason to block you. This is a tempest in a teapot.  SMH

mmmmmm….pot 🤤🤣

[ExiledInIllinois]

17 minutes ago, muppy said:

fof goodness sakes all that from my post? I have no reason to block you. This is a tempest in a teapot.  SMH

It is a pot thread! 😉 

 

[Don't shoot the messenger 😉]

[muppy]

15 hours ago, ExiledInIllinois said:

It is a pot thread! 😉 

 

[Don't shoot the messenger 😉]

rattatattatt I'll cyber shoot you if I want to  dont tell me what not to do.

 

lmao

 

@Johnny Hammersticks its just who I am mate only representing myself in this place.  that's it. Cheers.

 

m

 

 

 

[SlimShady'sSpaceForce]

 

Your doppelgänger says 👋 High 

[ExiledInIllinois]

16 minutes ago, SlimShady'sSpaceForce said:

 

Your doppelgänger says 👋 High 

Thanks! 😆 

[billsfanmiamioh]

Figured I would circle back on this topic and post a couple of good resources that were shared in my program. Both videos are short and provide a good illustration of some of the pros and cons of cannabis use. This is obviously an extremely active area of debate, with many differing opinions from many different areas of the medical field.

 

I am a proponent of medicinal and responsible adult cannabis use, but I am enjoying getting some of the alternative perspectives from this particular course which is devoted entirely to negative effects of cannabis. There are MANY known and potential benefits of cannabis, but like any other psychoactive substance, there are also associated risks. The more we research and understand about cannabis, hopefully the more we will be able to identify and mitigate those risks in people who are most susceptible. 

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nlcr1jd_Tok

 

 

https://www.coursera.org/lecture/addiction-treatment/decide-if-cannabis-use-can-lead-to-disordered-use-Iu7Kd?utm_source=link&utm_medium=page_share&utm_content=vlp&utm_campaign=top_button

 

[Joe Ferguson forever]

So 4 plants are legal in Virginia and it was a good crop.  This is good.  Not driving.  Retire to Virginia, they say.

Edited September 14, 2022 by redtail hawk

[Joe Ferguson forever]

21 minutes ago, billsfanmiamioh said:

Figured I would circle back on this topic and post a couple of good resources that were shared in my program. Both videos are short and provide a good illustration of some of the pros and cons of cannabis use. This is obviously an extremely active area of debate, with many differing opinions from many different areas of the medical field.

 

I am a proponent of medicinal and responsible adult cannabis use, but I am enjoying getting some of the alternative perspectives from this particular course which is devoted entirely to negative effects of cannabis. There are MANY known and potential benefits of cannabis, but like any other psychoactive substance, there are also associated risks. The more we research and understand about cannabis, hopefully the more we will be able to identify and mitigate those risks in people who are most susceptible. 

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nlcr1jd_Tok

 

 

https://www.coursera.org/lecture/addiction-treatment/decide-if-cannabis-use-can-lead-to-disordered-use-Iu7Kd?utm_source=link&utm_medium=page_share&utm_content=vlp&utm_campaign=top_button

 

There are risks to Aspirin...many, many.  Tinnitus is not fun but bleeding out can kill u.  I'm certain that susceptible people might worsen underlying psych issues but likely more would improve their condition especially for anxiety.   The bad responders will figure it out fast.  CBD has well studied positive effects on epilepsy.  But the convincing positive health results are admittedly often overstated.  I think there's a fair balance right now with grow your own in states that allow it.  More open distribution just means more money for the vultures.

[PromoTheRobot]

27 minutes ago, BUFFALOBART said:

I gave it up, years ago. My tolerance to it, is ridiculous. One hit, and I am in la-la land. I could never drive a car in that condition, but nearly every day, the driver of a car in front of me, is huffing on stinkweed. I don't know how they do it. Being high behind the wheel, is the same as a DWI, in NYS. If I can smell it, so can the cops...

 

It's amazing how smoke travels, cannabis or otherwise, from car to car on a highway.

 

Funny your tolerance decreased. I don't do that much but mine increased.

[Joe Ferguson forever]

4 minutes ago, BUFFALOBART said:

It seems to gradually decrease until the point, when I said: 'that's enough'.

and simultaneously, people complain about wearing masks to prevent aerosolized COVID during a pandemic.  Go figure.

[Gugny]

28 minutes ago, PromoTheRobot said:

 

It's amazing how smoke travels, cannabis or otherwise, from car to car on a highway.

 

Funny your tolerance decreased. I don't do that much but mine increased.

 

When I had a motorcycle, I rode with a helmet with no facemask.  I could be riding 60 mph and a car with a smoker could drive past me at the same speed going in the opposite direction and I'd always smell it.

 

 

[Joe Ferguson forever]

2 minutes ago, Gugny said:

 

When I had a motorcycle, I rode with a helmet with no facemask.  I could be riding 60 mph and a car with a smoker could drive past me at the same speed going in the opposite direction and I'd always smell it.

 

 

My parents both smoked cigarettes.  When I'd go home, I was overwhelmed with the smoke smell...carpet, drapes, furniture.  Everywhere.

[Joe Ferguson forever]

On 8/12/2022 at 9:24 AM, \GoBillsInDallas/ said:

 

Too late to tell that to Anne Heche.

vodka and valium are not good together:  https://www.espn.com/page2/s/toomay/021014.html

[\GoBillsInDallas/]

On 8/17/2022 at 3:25 PM, Johnny Hammersticks said:

Secondly, I’m sorry if it makes your heart hurt, but the phrase “You’re an idiot” is a long-standing TBDism recognized by most board members as humorous.

 

Vous êtes grosse, vous êtes laide et votre mère vous habille étrangement. 

[Johnny Hammersticks]

27 minutes ago, \GoBillsInDallas/ said:

 

Vous êtes grosse, vous êtes laide et votre mère vous habille étrangement. 

😢

[Joe Ferguson forever]

1 hour ago, BUFFALOBART said:

...Especially, when it is written as : 'Your' an idiot.

i thought that phrase was trademarked here.

[SlimShady'sSpaceForce]

6 hours ago, \GoBillsInDallas/ said:

 

Vous êtes grosse, vous êtes laide et votre mère vous habille étrangement. 

i love the translator on my browser 

[ExiledInIllinois]

 

 

Edited September 21, 2022 by ExiledInIllinois

[ExiledInIllinois]

Interesting study: "Pain & The Mary Jane."  The ones on it have worse pain after surgery and require more opioids.  The numbers aren't major but they are there.

 

Makes sense I suppose. A crutch needs a crutch. Body looking to mask the pain with something like it's used to... Just need more drugs to manage the pain.

 

https://neurosciencenews.com/pain-cannabis-surgery-21701/

 

“...Our study shows that adults who use cannabis are having more — not less — postoperative pain. Consequently, they have higher opioid consumption after surgery.  ...”

 

"...Researchers analyzed the records of 34,521 adult patients — 1,681 of them cannabis users — who had elective surgeries at Cleveland Clinic from January 2010 to December 2020. The cannabis users had used the drug within 30 days before surgery, while the other patients had never used cannabis.

The patients who used cannabis experienced 14% more pain during the first 24 hours after surgery compared to the patients who never used cannabis.

Additionally, patients who used cannabis consumed 7% more opioids after surgery, which the authors note was not statistically significant, but is likely clinically relevant.  ..."

 

 

Edited October 24, 2022 by ExiledInIllinois

[billsfanmiamioh]

5 hours ago, ExiledInIllinois said:

Interesting study: "Pain & The Mary Jane."  The ones on it have worse pain after surgery and require more opioids.  The numbers aren't major but they are there.

 

Makes sense I suppose. A crutch needs a crutch. Body looking to mask the pain with something like it's used to... Just need more drugs to manage the pain.

 

https://neurosciencenews.com/pain-cannabis-surgery-21701/

 

“...Our study shows that adults who use cannabis are having more — not less — postoperative pain. Consequently, they have higher opioid consumption after surgery.  ...”

 

"...Researchers analyzed the records of 34,521 adult patients — 1,681 of them cannabis users — who had elective surgeries at Cleveland Clinic from January 2010 to December 2020. The cannabis users had used the drug within 30 days before surgery, while the other patients had never used cannabis.

The patients who used cannabis experienced 14% more pain during the first 24 hours after surgery compared to the patients who never used cannabis.

Additionally, patients who used cannabis consumed 7% more opioids after surgery, which the authors note was not statistically significant, but is likely clinically relevant.  ..."

 

 

which the authors note was not statistically significant, but is likely clinically relevant.  ..."

[ExiledInIllinois]

2 hours ago, billsfanmiamioh said:

which the authors note was not statistically significant, but is likely clinically relevant.  ..."

Clinically relevant is very important.  More than statistics. Direct observation in the real world outweighs stats.

[Joe Ferguson forever]

36 minutes ago, ExiledInIllinois said:

Clinically relevant is very important.  More than statistics. Direct observation in the real world outweighs stats.

not true.  evidence based medical decisions are made based on statistically significant data.

[Nextmanup]

On 9/21/2022 at 11:37 AM, ExiledInIllinois said:

 

 

OMG...I totally forgot that show existed.  I used to watch it and really enjoyed it.

I always found it to be consistently funny, which is hard to do.

 

 

[Teddy KGB]

I’m contributing about an ounce a month to the cause. 
 

Let’s go cannabis !!   Kick that alcohols ass ! 
 

Great prices and product with so much competition available in Virginia now. 

Edited October 24, 2022 by Teddy KGB

[HunTim]

Cannabis consumption on track to overtake alcohol

 

I'll drink to that! 🍹

[GETTOTHE50]

 

[C.Biscuit97]

Mushrooms are on the rise as well. This world is set up to escape reality. 

[Gugny]

First I drink ... then I smoke.

[muppy]

hahahaaa

[ExiledInIllinois]

5 hours ago, Gugny said:

First I drink ... then I smoke.

Then you'll get cirrhosis and lung cancer. 😏 

[Teddy KGB]

On 11/2/2022 at 7:55 PM, ExiledInIllinois said:

Then you'll get cirrhosis and lung cancer. 😏 

save him, you got a pamphlet ? 

[Logic]

Recreational cannabis is on the ballot this Tuesday in five states.

'Bout time to just end the federal prohibition and get with the times.

https://time.com/6228003/marijuana-legalization-2022-midterm-elections/

[Bray Wyatt]

8 hours ago, Logic said:

Recreational cannabis is on the ballot this Tuesday in five states.

'Bout time to just end the federal prohibition and get with the times.

https://time.com/6228003/marijuana-legalization-2022-midterm-elections/

It’s interesting here in Tennessee that while weed is illegal you can still get gummies and things like that at stores as they are made from the hemp part of the plant and is a loophole in the law here

[Augie]

20 minutes ago, Bray Wyatt said:

It’s interesting here in Tennessee that while weed is illegal you can still get gummies and things like that at stores as they are made from the hemp part of the plant and is a loophole in the law here

 

We went into a shop in NC this summer out of curiosity. It’s not legal, but they grow weed with no THC content, then spray it with something so it just gets to the limit of what they can get away with. The guy described it as “weed light”. He said “so you just do two bowls instead of one”. No thanks, I don’t know or trust whatever the hell you are spraying that with. I suspect it’s less healthy than something natural, but I didn’t care enough to dig into it.

 

I did get some roll-on stuff for my bad shoulder. I have no idea if it really helped a little, or if it was more placebo affect. Even if it’s just my imagination, being more comfortable is a good thing. 

[SinceThe70s]

8 minutes ago, Augie said:

 

We went into a shop in NC this summer out of curiosity. It’s not legal, but they grow weed with no THC content, then spray it with something so it just gets to the limit of what they can get away with. The guy described it as “weed light”. He said “so you just do two bowls instead of one”. No thanks, I don’t know or trust whatever the hell you are spraying that with. I suspect it’s less healthy than something natural, but I didn’t care enough to dig into it.

 

I did get some roll-on stuff for my bad shoulder. I have no idea if it really helped a little, or if it was more placebo affect. Even if it’s just my imagination, being more comfortable is a good thing. 

 

Like an anti-perspirant? Where's that TIL thread when I really need it?

[Bray Wyatt]

46 minutes ago, Augie said:

 

We went into a shop in NC this summer out of curiosity. It’s not legal, but they grow weed with no THC content, then spray it with something so it just gets to the limit of what they can get away with. The guy described it as “weed light”. He said “so you just do two bowls instead of one”. No thanks, I don’t know or trust whatever the hell you are spraying that with. I suspect it’s less healthy than something natural, but I didn’t care enough to dig into it.

 

I did get some roll-on stuff for my bad shoulder. I have no idea if it really helped a little, or if it was more placebo affect. Even if it’s just my imagination, being more comfortable is a good thing. 

Oh no this isn’t like that, it has to do with where they extract the thc from. You can get thc from hemp and weed that is the same. Getting it from hemp is legal in Tennessee but not from marijuana.

 

see if things like delta 8:

Delta-8 tetrahydrocannabinol, also known as delta-8 THC, is a psychoactive substance found in the Cannabis sativa plant, of which marijuana and hemp are two varieties. Delta-8 THC is one of over 100 cannabinoids produced naturally 

 

[US Egg]

Lucky for them, not for me, cannot turn my back on drink.

 

Nor’ the weed. But am off prescription drugs. It’s all good.

 

 

[Johnny Hammersticks]

11 hours ago, I am the egg man said:

Lucky for them, not for me, cannot turn my back on drink.

 

Nor’ the weed. But am off prescription drugs. It’s all good.

 

 

A close friend of my has severe epilepsy.  Also suffered with depression his whole life.  He was on 13 different medications for the epilepsy, mood disorder, and other stuff for most of his life.  When he was in his late 20s he connected with a “progressive” medical doctor who suggested he try using cannabis in controlled amounts to treat some of his ailments.  He is now in his mid-40s and is no longer taking any medications.

[muppy]

as of this morning I am the proud possessor of a marijuana strain that is very well known but I had never had any yet..

 

MAUI WOWIE Its small teeny buds about the size of a garbanzo bean. 28grams $61.00. That is so much cheaper than back in the day.

 

Edited November 12, 2022 by muppy