Kareem Hunt requests trade, but they say no

[Steel City Mafia]

 

Edited August 7, 2022 by Steel City Mafia

[FireChans]

Browns need him as the second lead for their “Hard Knocks - The Longest Yard” series coming this fall. 

[HOUSE]

I see another boycott,  go for it

[H2o]

It continues in Cleveland....

Edited August 7, 2022 by H2o

[YoloinOhio]

They need to keep their criminal quota up. No trade for you. 

[TBBills]

6 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said:

They need to keep their criminal quota up. No trade for you. 

State kickbacks for how many felons you employ. 🤑

[Ridgewaycynic2013]

No alternate uniforms, Cleveland will just go with:

Including the owner.

[YoloinOhio]

24 minutes ago, Ridgewaycynic2013 said:

No alternate uniforms, Cleveland will just go with:

Including the owner.

Don’t forget these guys

https://www.si.com/nfl/browns/.amp/news/two-browns-mentioned-in-lsu-bombshell

[Bangarang]

His best course of action is to sexually assault 27 women and the Browns will give him a bunch of money. 

[Ralonzo]

1 hour ago, Steel City Mafia said:

His best strategy is to kill it

 

[HOUSE]

The Browns can always draft a 1st round RB, OH WAIT....

 

 

 

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Edited August 7, 2022 by HOUSE

[Malazan]

6 hours ago, Steel City Mafia said:

 

 

His best course would be to let it slip that he's not comfortable being on a team with someone who committed sexual assault and make sure the team understands how near and dear to his heart that issue is and if he doesn't get a lot more money or a trade then more of his displeasure about it will go public. 

Edited August 7, 2022 by Malazan

[Alphadawg7]

I would too, that team is a complete mess at all times.  Not to mention handing a serial sex offender a quarter of a billion dollars after trading away a bounty to get him as well.  
 

So I don’t blame anyone for wanting out that dumpster fire 

[GunnerBill]

Just now, Alphadawg7 said:

I would too, that team is a complete mess at all times.  Not to mention handing a serial sex offender a quarter of a billion dollars after trading away a bounty to get him as well.  
 

So I don’t blame anyone for wanting out that dumpster fire 

 

In fairness they took on Kareem Hunt after the Chiefs released him for kicking a woman on the floor. He is the least well positioned to preach the Browns on morals. 

[JoPoy88]

No one’s trading for a declining back that they would have to immediately have to pay at this point. Either Hunt’s representation is giving him back advice, or he’s ignoring them.

[BillsfaninSB]

3 minutes ago, Alphadawg7 said:

I would too, that team is a complete mess at all times.  Not to mention handing a serial sex offender a quarter of a billion dollars after trading away a bounty to get him as well.  
 

So I don’t blame anyone for wanting out that dumpster fire 

Plus not having a cool logo on the helmet is lame. 

[Ridgewaycynic2013]

6 hours ago, Steel City Mafia said:

 

I could see in his face.

I knowed it was 'no'.

[Alphadawg7]

30 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

 

In fairness they took on Kareem Hunt after the Chiefs released him for kicking a woman on the floor. He is the least well positioned to preach the Browns on morals. 

 

In fairness, the two situations are not even remotely comparable in terms of severity of the incident, consequences each faced, or even the morality of the mistakes.

• Hunt lost his job, immediately cut from the Chiefs.  Same Chiefs team that had no problem drafting Tyreek after he beat up his pregnant girlfriend and would later beat on that kid too and still remained with the team and highly paid.  
  • Watson kept his job and his pay check while Houston waited out being able to trade him for a bounty.
• Hunt had to find a new job as a FA and find a team willing to give him a second chance 
  • Browns won a bidding war amongst multiple teams and traded a bounty to get Watson despite 24 women coming forward for sexual misconduct.
• Hunt played for the min in Cleveland and had to earn his way back to decent contract
  • Browns handed a quarter of a billion dollars, all fully guaranteed for the first time in history, to a habitual sexual predator who didn't defeat the allegations and just literally paid women off to avoid further damages to his career.  

For me, their incidents on a "severity scale" are not remotely comparable.  Both are 100% unacceptable, but Hunt's situation had more to do with him putting himself in a bad situation and then reacting very poorly to it.  Lets not forget in regards to Hunt, the woman first refused to leave the hotel room and was causing problems with everyone in the room, then refused to leave the hallway, and then shouted racial slurs to escalate the incident and provoke the poor response from Hunt.  DOES NOT excuse Hunts choices from that point on, but there is a BIG difference in being provoked into making a bad decision and Watson's premeditated decision to habitually sexually prey on 24 women we know of.  

 

Furthermore, Hunt has owned up to his mistake, paid the price for it, apologized for it, showed remorse, and been a model citizen both before it (as far as we know) and after it.  All evidence indicates it was an isolated incident and mistake he grew from.  He has earned his way back to this point on and off the field.  Meanwhile Watson has not done the same and instead just paying women off while saying he is innocent to avoid risking further damage to his career.  

 

So for me, its not fair to compare to the two people as men, their morals, or their handling of their mistakes.  

[DrBob806]

2 hours ago, BillsfaninSB said:

Plus not having a cool logo on the helmet is lame. 

Lol...that's weird. I always thought the Browns helmets were among the best.

[GunnerBill]

8 hours ago, Alphadawg7 said:

 

So for me, its not fair to compare to the two people as men, their morals, or their handling of their mistakes.  

 

I didn't compare them. I simply pointed out that if there is any player on that roster not in a position to question the fact that Cleveland has a certain moral ambiguity when it comes to signing players it is Hunt. 

[Alphadawg7]

10 hours ago, GunnerBill said:

 

I didn't compare them. I simply pointed out that if there is any player on that roster not in a position to question the fact that Cleveland has a certain moral ambiguity when it comes to signing players it is Hunt. 

 

But you kind of are comparing them, I mean you are saying Hunt has no right to question Clevelands pursuit, trade, and paying of Watson because he once got signed by Cleveland after he had an incident disrupt his career.  Which I can see how on the surface that makes sense, but the two situations are totally different and not really comparable or even similar.  

 

Before he got to Cleveland...Hunt had already lost his job, lost his income, did all the off field work including anger and alcohol counseling, apologized and was remorseful, took responsibility etc before he got a chance with Cleveland again where he signed cheap where he has been a model citizen ever since.  And the only reason he did was because the GM in KC that drafted him was now the GM in Cleveland and knew him well enough to trust giving him a second chance.  They already had Chubb too, so they didn't need to sign him.  He was given a second chance because he did the work to earn it off the field.  Watson has done none of that.  

 

Watson has never cleared anything, never truly taken responsibility, and his issues were not just one single bad mistake.  He habitually sexually preyed on 24 women that we know of, and has since paid off 23 of them so he could get traded and get a massive new contract.  He hasn't even lost money, he got paid to sit by Houston (not cut like Hunt) and then got a fully guaranteed quarter of a billion dollars from Cleveland.  

Its all good bud, we can agree to disagree on this, not a big deal by any means.  But lets be honest...Watson got treated different because he is a top 5 talent at the most important position in probably all of team sports.  Hunt had to earn his second chance, Watson not only didn't have to earn it, he still hasn't even cleared all his cases and still never taken responsibility for anything, just out there cutting checks to women to make them go away.  

 

 

 

[GunnerBill]

1 hour ago, Alphadawg7 said:

 

But you kind of are comparing them, I mean you are saying Hunt has no right to question Clevelands pursuit, trade, and paying of Watson because he once got signed by Cleveland after he had an incident disrupt his career.  Which I can see how on the surface that makes sense, but the two situations are totally different and not really comparable or even similar.  

 

Before he got to Cleveland...Hunt had already lost his job, lost his income, did all the off field work including anger and alcohol counseling, apologized and was remorseful, took responsibility etc before he got a chance with Cleveland again where he signed cheap where he has been a model citizen ever since.  And the only reason he did was because the GM in KC that drafted him was now the GM in Cleveland and knew him well enough to trust giving him a second chance.  They already had Chubb too, so they didn't need to sign him.  He was given a second chance because he did the work to earn it off the field.  Watson has done none of that.  

 

Watson has never cleared anything, never truly taken responsibility, and his issues were not just one single bad mistake.  He habitually sexually preyed on 24 women that we know of, and has since paid off 23 of them so he could get traded and get a massive new contract.  He hasn't even lost money, he got paid to sit by Houston (not cut like Hunt) and then got a fully guaranteed quarter of a billion dollars from Cleveland.  

Its all good bud, we can agree to disagree on this, not a big deal by any means.  But lets be honest...Watson got treated different because he is a top 5 talent at the most important position in probably all of team sports.  Hunt had to earn his second chance, Watson not only didn't have to earn it, he still hasn't even cleared all his cases and still never taken responsibility for anything, just out there cutting checks to women to make them go away.  

 

 

 

 

The two situations don't have to be comparable and they aren't for the point to stand. Cleveland's moral ambiguity on signings was his only route back into the league at that point. He can still be disgusted by the Watson situation, but he can't now play the martyr. It doesn't work like that. 

[Alphadawg7]

30 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

 

The two situations don't have to be comparable and they aren't for the point to stand. Cleveland's moral ambiguity on signings was his only route back into the league at that point. He can still be disgusted by the Watson situation, but he can't now play the martyr. It doesn't work like that. 

 

I dont think he is playing the martyr by any means.  I think its more than fair for him to be unhappy with his current contract, the situation, or the team itself.  But to each their own, ok to agree to disagree bud  All good

[Nelius]

These Browns are kind of a mess huh? I've still seen some recent forecasts with them in the playoffs, I don't quite see how with all of the recent developments. Gonna be weird in Cleveland this year.

 

Between Cleveland and Denver's reported early struggles (Patrick out for the year, linebacker issues, gonna trust Jeudy as a real #1 even a #2?) the AFC is already shuffling around a bit. If both Denver and Cleveland fail to deliver, then like 90% of all talking heads are already incorrect. Watch out for Las Vegas, seriously.

Edited August 9, 2022 by Nelius