B-Man Posted May 16, 2023 Share Posted May 16, 2023 13 hours ago, SCBills said: Lovely… Murder for hire Warren Hern kills babies for a living. It is his calling. He has been doing it for over 50 years, and at 84 he seems determined to continue doing it until he keels over from exhaustion. The Atlantic has a long and disturbing profile on this man , a doctor who willingly kills children at the latest points in pregnancy. So late, in fact, that most of his colleagues would refuse to consider the job. Healthy, third-trimester “fetuses.” Babies that are viable outside the womb. Because pregnancy is a health crisis, if you think it is. If killing an infant will make a mother happy, Hern is there to do it for you. As late into the pregnancy as you would like. About half of Hern’s abortions are due to women who wanted a child but a dangerous medical condition arose, often fetal abnormalities that would lead to short lives and hard deaths. But the rest are for personal reasons. A divorce, or the child developing into the wrong sex. The baby won’t accessorize that particular person’s life at that moment, so time to move on. https://hotair.com/david-strom/2023/05/16/murder-for-hire-n551076 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillStime Posted May 17, 2023 Share Posted May 17, 2023 North Carolina will vote blue no matter who in 2024. So much winning - right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted May 18, 2023 Share Posted May 18, 2023 Leaders of the antiabortion movement gathered in Donald Trump’s Mar-a-Lago office last week to head off what they viewed as a potential crisis. The former president’s reelection campaign had recently said that abortion restrictions “should be decided at the state level.” Days later, his rival, former U.N. ambassador Nikki Haley, delivered a speech arguing against federal abortion limits that did not have enough votes to pass both chambers of Congress. Trump’s guests, including Susan B. Anthony Pro-Life America President Marjorie Dannenfelser, Family Research Council President Tony Perkins and Sen. Lindsey O. Graham (R-S.C.), showed him polling from the GOP firm On Message Public Strategies suggesting that a majority of Americans supported limiting the procedure after 15 weeks. They insisted that the federal government must still have a role. https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2023/05/18/abortion-bans-republicans-2024/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted May 18, 2023 Share Posted May 18, 2023 On 5/16/2023 at 9:10 PM, BillStime said: North Carolina will vote blue no matter who in 2024. So much winning - right? That’s far closer to where most North Carolinians reside on the issue than where Roy Cooper advocates. What sick world do you live in, where 12 weeks is just a bridge too far? I can understand pushback to heartbeat bans, but 12 weeks?.. with exceptions after 12 weeks? What tf is wrong with you people? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillStime Posted May 18, 2023 Share Posted May 18, 2023 13 minutes ago, SCBills said: That’s far closer to where most North Carolinians reside on the issue than where Roy Cooper advocates. What sick world do you live in, where 12 weeks is just a bridge too far? I can understand pushback to heartbeat bans, but 12 weeks?.. with exceptions after 12 weeks? What tf is wrong with you people? I have an issue with laws dictating what women can and cannot do with their body. You would fight tooth and nail if governments were forcing teen men and single males to get vasectomies, right? Yup 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pokebball Posted May 18, 2023 Share Posted May 18, 2023 4 minutes ago, BillStime said: I have an issue with laws dictating what women can and cannot do with their body. You would fight tooth and nail if governments were forcing teen men and single males to get vasectomies, right? Yup Kinda an extreme false equivalency, don't you think? Comparing an act of killing a human life to sterilization? Wouldn't your point work better if you used hysterectomy to vasectomy, or perhaps mom killing the baby to dad killing the baby? 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted May 18, 2023 Share Posted May 18, 2023 (edited) 18 minutes ago, BillStime said: I have an issue with laws dictating what women can and cannot do with their body. You would fight tooth and nail if governments were forcing teen men and single males to get vasectomies, right? Yup Do men have the ability to terminate a pregnancy? Weird, yet predictable, false equivalency. Most WOMEN support protections for the unborn life at some point in the pregnancy. The overturning of Roe has blinded people like you to the fact that poll after poll of Americans, Western World, the entire planet, all people, majority support protections for the unborn life massively in the third trimester and majority at some point in the second trimester. Im pro-life, and would settle for a 12 week ban, with exceptions after for the life of the mother and severe fetal abnormalities…. I am very much in line with most Americans. And North Carolina, is a pretty mainstream state… lean red, but not by a ton. Brian Kemp was re-elected by a landslide after enacting a heartbeat ban. Enjoy this while you can, because the political capital will eventually run out as we get further and further from the overturning of Roe. Most people aren’t heartless ghouls that think babies deserve zero protection at any point until they are birthed. And it seems libs are completely incapable of that nuance. Edited May 18, 2023 by SCBills 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted May 18, 2023 Share Posted May 18, 2023 38 minutes ago, SCBills said: Do men have the ability to terminate a pregnancy? Weird, yet predictable, false equivalency. Most WOMEN support protections for the unborn life at some point in the pregnancy. The overturning of Roe has blinded people like you to the fact that poll after poll of Americans, Western World, the entire planet, all people, majority support protections for the unborn life massively in the third trimester and majority at some point in the second trimester. Im pro-life, and would settle for a 12 week ban, with exceptions after for the life of the mother and severe fetal abnormalities…. I am very much in line with most Americans. And North Carolina, is a pretty mainstream state… lean red, but not by a ton. Brian Kemp was re-elected by a landslide after enacting a heartbeat ban. Enjoy this while you can, because the political capital will eventually run out as we get further and further from the overturning of Roe. Most people aren’t heartless ghouls that think babies deserve zero protection at any point until they are birthed. And it seems libs are completely incapable of that nuance. Political capital will not run out, its going to be a factor at every level of politics, with each new judge appointed etc, Brian Kemp is just one politician, the midterms are a much wider and more encompassing measuring stick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pokebball Posted May 18, 2023 Share Posted May 18, 2023 (edited) 10 minutes ago, Tiberius said: Political capital will not run out, its going to be a factor at every level of politics, with each new judge appointed etc, Brian Kemp is just one politician, the midterms are a much wider and more encompassing measuring stick Just like we're seeing play out in the states, there will have to be a compromise from the two extremes. Most Americans are not for either extreme. Whether the compromise on the issue happens state by state or at the federal level, the result will have to be a reasonable compromise. And we're not going to get to a reasonable compromise unless we're willing to have serious conversations about abortion. Emotions and screaming aren't going to get anyone there. Edited May 18, 2023 by Pokebball 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted May 18, 2023 Share Posted May 18, 2023 30 minutes ago, Pokebball said: Just like we're seeing play out in the states, there will have to be a compromise from the two extremes. Most Americans are not for either extreme. Whether the compromise on the issue happens state by state or at the federal level, the result will have to be a reasonable compromise. And we're not going to get to a reasonable compromise unless we're willing to have serious conversations about abortion. Emotions and screaming aren't going to get anyone there. So ya, it will continue to be an issue, which is my point Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pokebball Posted May 18, 2023 Share Posted May 18, 2023 6 minutes ago, Tiberius said: So ya, it will continue to be an issue, which is my point I guess I'm saying it will continue to be an issue for both sides and is going to require compromise by both extremes. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted May 19, 2023 Share Posted May 19, 2023 On 5/15/2023 at 9:51 PM, SCBills said: Lovely… how did the abortionist know it was a girl? 11 hours ago, Pokebball said: Just like we're seeing play out in the states, there will have to be a compromise from the two extremes. Most Americans are not for either extreme. Whether the compromise on the issue happens state by state or at the federal level, the result will have to be a reasonable compromise. And we're not going to get to a reasonable compromise unless we're willing to have serious conversations about abortion. Emotions and screaming aren't going to get anyone there. Nobody wants a compromise even if they want a compromise. This issue is easy red meat polarization for as long as it’s in flux. A reasonable compromise would be a rally cry killer. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillStime Posted May 19, 2023 Share Posted May 19, 2023 18 hours ago, Pokebball said: Kinda an extreme false equivalency, don't you think? Comparing an act of killing a human life to sterilization? Wouldn't your point work better if you used hysterectomy to vasectomy, or perhaps mom killing the baby to dad killing the baby? 18 hours ago, SCBills said: Do men have the ability to terminate a pregnancy? False equivalency? Bullshitttt Men are 50% responsible for EVERY pregnancy. 18 hours ago, SCBills said: Most WOMEN support protections for the unborn life at some point in the pregnancy. The overturning of Roe has blinded people like you to the fact that poll after poll of Americans, Western World, the entire planet, all people, majority support protections for the unborn life massively in the third trimester and majority at some point in the second trimester. Yeah bro - please keep telling yourself that. The red wave that never happened and all the recent elections suggest otherwise. 18 hours ago, SCBills said: Most people aren’t heartless ghouls that think babies deserve zero protection at any point until they are birthed. And it seems libs are completely incapable of that nuance. Heartless ghouls? JFC you try so hard When you FREAKS start showing compassion for actual children - maybe, just maybe we can discuss what is and what is not appropriate CONTROL over women. Cuz this clearly has nothing to do with kids or the uNbOrN. So after dancing around the topic - you don’t mind controlling women but don’t you dare control men. Typical misogynist jfc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy Callahan Posted May 19, 2023 Share Posted May 19, 2023 18 hours ago, Pokebball said: I guess I'm saying it will continue to be an issue for both sides and is going to require compromise by both extremes. at this point one almost has to treat the extremes as outliers and leave them out of the equation/solution. But the extreme voices seem to have the most financial support. IE PACS. Across a number of issues. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy Callahan Posted May 19, 2023 Share Posted May 19, 2023 And if the supreme court ruled its not a federal issue. how could Trump or the DEMS outlaw or make it legal on the federal level? EU has everything from countries with outright bans, to limits anywhere from 10 to 24 weeks. but almost nothing after Would the US Accept anything close to that? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abortion_in_Europe "12 weeks (Albania, Armenia, Azerbaijan, Belarus, Belgium, Bosnia-Herzegovina, Bulgaria, Croatia, Cuba, Czech Republic, Denmark, Estonia, Georgia, Greece, Kazakhstan, Kyrgyzstan, Latvia, Lithuania, Moldova, Mongolia, Norway, Russia, Saudi Arabia, Slovakia, Slovenia, South Africa, Ukraine, Tajikistan, Tunisia, Turkey, Turkmenistan and Uzbekistan) 13 weeks (Italy) 14 weeks (Argentina, Austria, Cambodia, France, Germany, Hungary, Romania and Spain) 18 weeks (Sweden) 22 weeks (North Macedonia) 24 weeks (Singapore, Netherlands[40]) viability (to some extent the United States) no limit (Canada, some states in the United States, China, and North Korea)" 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted May 29, 2023 Share Posted May 29, 2023 (edited) Leaked DeSantis talking points allegedly address how he will discuss abortion as a Presidential candidate. Believes abortion should be “Safe, Legal and Rare”. SCOTUS returned the decision to the states. He signed a law that reflects the citizens of Florida. As President, states should decide their own abortion laws. IF this is how he does end up addressing it. He should neutralize the attacks from Dems on this issue. He’ll never win over those who are furious he, as Governor, signed a 6 week abortion ban in deep red Florida … but he will win Florida easily in a GE, and just needs to convince pro-choice folks open to him in the other 49 states that this isn’t a Federal issue any longer (which is accurate) and he won’t seek to ever make it one again. Edited May 29, 2023 by SCBills 1 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted May 29, 2023 Share Posted May 29, 2023 28 minutes ago, SCBills said: Leaked DeSantis talking points allegedly address how he will discuss abortion as a Presidential candidate. Believes abortion should be “Safe, Legal and Rare”. SCOTUS returned the decision to the states. He signed a law that reflects the citizens of Florida. As President, states should decide their own abortion laws. IF this is how he does end up addressing it. He should neutralize the attacks from Dems on this issue. He’ll never win over those who are furious he, as Governor, signed a 6 week abortion ban in deep red Florida … but he will win Florida easily in a GE, and just needs to convince pro-choice folks open to him in the other 49 states that this isn’t a Federal issue any longer (which is accurate) and he won’t seek to ever make it one again. My colleague said he heard that DeSantis was talking about a federal 6 week ban. I didn't hear about that and searched it, and all I found was Florida's. That might make it tougher, but if he frames it like above, and I have no doubt he will, that will help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy Callahan Posted May 29, 2023 Share Posted May 29, 2023 2 minutes ago, Doc said: My colleague said he heard that DeSantis was talking about a federal 6 week ban. I didn't hear about that and searched it, and all I found was Florida's. That might make it tougher, but if he frames it like above, and I have no doubt he will, that will help. If he does, he will need to find a way to take that message directly to people. the usual voices will promote the "he wants a federal 6-week ban" Nonstop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted May 29, 2023 Share Posted May 29, 2023 40 minutes ago, Chris farley said: If he does, he will need to find a way to take that message directly to people. the usual voices will promote the "he wants a federal 6-week ban" Nonstop. The leak about DeSantis re-coining the phrase “safe, legal and rare”.. if true.. Brilliant. It will stick, and people remember what that meant. That was the view of most Democrats 10 years ago. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wacka Posted May 29, 2023 Share Posted May 29, 2023 Amendment X The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the states, are reserved to the states respectively, or to the people. I posted this when the decision came down. Roe vs Wade violated the Tenth Amendment. This ruling remedied that. It is a state matter, not a federal one. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted May 29, 2023 Share Posted May 29, 2023 Leftist Lies will now be called out immediately. NO ONE will be arrested for aa stillbirth. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted May 29, 2023 Share Posted May 29, 2023 1 hour ago, Wacka said: Amendment X The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the states, are reserved to the states respectively, or to the people. I posted this when the decision came down. Roe vs Wade violated the Tenth Amendment. This ruling remedied that. It is a state matter, not a federal one. That's trumped by the 14th Amendment equal protection clause, abortion is a medical right that all American women should be allowed to exercise 1 minute ago, B-Man said: Leftist Lies will now be called out immediately. NO ONE will be arrested for aa stillbirth. So they arrested an addict. Did the other addict that got her pregnant also get arrested? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted May 29, 2023 Share Posted May 29, 2023 4 hours ago, Tiberius said: So they arrested an addict. Did the other addict that got her pregnant also get arrested? Why? Did he pump her full of drugs as well? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Ferguson forever Posted June 4, 2023 Share Posted June 4, 2023 Real life consequences of over reaching abortion laws: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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BillStime Posted June 7, 2023 Share Posted June 7, 2023 10 minutes ago, Big Blitz said: So mixing sports and politics is ok when it fits your narrative - f'n hypocrites. These idiots never think. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted June 16, 2023 Share Posted June 16, 2023 LIKE THE BARBARIC AND REPRESSIVE MISSISSIPPI LAW EMMANUEL MACRON DENOUNCED even though it was more liberal than France’s. Gallup poll shows most Americans would vote for a 15-week abortion ban. “Again, this isn’t new. Gallup has always found that a majority believe second-trimester abortions should be illegal.” https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/gallup-poll-shows-most-americans-would-vote-for-a-15-week-abortion-ban#google_vignette As I’ve said before, had the Supreme Court stayed out of it, American abortion law would probably look a lot like Europe’s. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted June 16, 2023 Share Posted June 16, 2023 1 hour ago, B-Man said: LIKE THE BARBARIC AND REPRESSIVE MISSISSIPPI LAW EMMANUEL MACRON DENOUNCED even though it was more liberal than France’s. Gallup poll shows most Americans would vote for a 15-week abortion ban. “Again, this isn’t new. Gallup has always found that a majority believe second-trimester abortions should be illegal.” https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/gallup-poll-shows-most-americans-would-vote-for-a-15-week-abortion-ban#google_vignette As I’ve said before, had the Supreme Court stayed out of it, American abortion law would probably look a lot like Europe’s. Jackson Women's Heath Organization was responsible for RvW being overturned by suing over a 15-week ban. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted June 17, 2023 Share Posted June 17, 2023 PP realizes they are going to make more money off the cross sex hormone cash cow, therefore … 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted June 20, 2023 Share Posted June 20, 2023 Jennifer Rubin https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2023/06/20/abortion-gop-2024-election/ We are fast approaching the first anniversary of Dobbs v. Jackson Women’s Health Organization, arguably the most hotly criticized Supreme Court ruling in the 126 years since Plessy v. Ferguson. The 2022 midterms gave us a peek at Dobbs’s possible impact on the national political landscape, saving scores of Democratic Senate and House seats, boosting female voter registration and enabling a clean sweep of pro-abortion-rights ballot measures. In case there was any doubt as to the significance of stripping women of the right to bodily integrity, the Wisconsin Supreme Court race in April turned a normally 50-50 state into a 55.5-44.5 state in favor of Democrats when abortion was front and center. There is every reason to believe that in 2024, the issue will be just as potent and the impact on Republicans up and down the ticket just as disastrous. “A record-high 69% say abortion should generally be legal in the first three months of pregnancy. The prior high of 67% was recorded last May after the Supreme Court’s Dobbs v. Jackson Women’s Health Organization draft was leaked,” Gallup reports. “Gallup’s oldest trend on the legality of abortion finds 34% of Americans believe abortion should be legal under any circumstances, nearly matching last year’s record-high 35% and above the 27% average since 1975.” Moreover, “another 51% currently say abortion should be legal under certain circumstances, while 13% (similar to the all-time low of 12%) want it illegal in all circumstances.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted June 21, 2023 Share Posted June 21, 2023 On 5/29/2023 at 12:44 PM, SCBills said: Leaked DeSantis talking points allegedly address how he will discuss abortion as a Presidential candidate. Believes abortion should be “Safe, Legal and Rare”. Hillary Clinton's talking points... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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BillStime Posted June 23, 2023 Share Posted June 23, 2023 This is going to continue to haunt the cult big time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Doc Posted June 24, 2023 Share Posted June 24, 2023 46 minutes ago, Tiberius said: Who has died? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Posted June 24, 2023 Share Posted June 24, 2023 50 minutes ago, Doc said: Who has died? I’m willing to bet even more babies have died than mothers in abortion clinics this past year. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted June 24, 2023 Share Posted June 24, 2023 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted June 25, 2023 Share Posted June 25, 2023 That's the truth. Again blame Jackson Women's Health Organization for prodding the bear. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted June 25, 2023 Share Posted June 25, 2023 Love how all the GOP candidates are calling for Federal Abortion bans. Ya, a state's rights issue. Ok Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T&C Posted June 25, 2023 Share Posted June 25, 2023 https://www.baynews9.com/fl/tampa/news/2023/06/25/in-post-roe-era--house-republicans-begin-quiet-push-for-new-restrictions-on-abortion-access Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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