Better Call Saul - final season April 18,2022

[May Day 10]

3 hours ago, Dr Krentist said:

Great episode. I have a feeling this isn't going to end well for Jimmy.

Yeah, he went full villain going hard at that guy with cancer.  Also, the little foreshadowing with the mini grave fading with him laying in it isn't a good sign

[davefan66]

Interesting episode. Didn’t know the title until the show aired.  Figured from the title we’d see BB characters.

 

Walt looked and acted like Walt. Jesse looked so different and acted too intelligent.  I know they’ve grown older since BB, but man it was weird.

 

Neat getting a little update on some of the other BB characters.  No surprises.  
 

Wonder what he heard on the phone when he called Kim’s place of employment?  Doesn’t look good.  Felt she would be safe, now don’t know.

 

Last few episodes should be great.  We now know we will most likely see what happens to Jimmy, AKA Saul, AKA Gene.  With two episodes showing Gene, that’s the path they chose, not memory law lane with huge doses of BB.  Then again, I’m probably wrong.

[Mr Info]

Gene is hitting the dirt just as that episode foreshadowed. 
After the Kim call & managing Cinnabon…maybe he no longer cares. He was almost popped in the dept store heist and will probably meet an end in the current ID and credit scam.

[Royale with Cheese]

4 hours ago, May Day 10 said:

Yeah, he went full villain going hard at that guy with cancer.  Also, the little foreshadowing with the mini grave fading with him laying in it isn't a good sign

 

I started getting that feeling.  Man, I feel like we probably have a heartbreaking ending to this show and series. 

 

Can another spin off happen?

[Royale with Cheese]

3 hours ago, davefan66 said:

Interesting episode. Didn’t know the title until the show aired.  Figured from the title we’d see BB characters.

 

Walt looked and acted like Walt. Jesse looked so different and acted too intelligent.  I know they’ve grown older since BB, but man it was weird.

 

Neat getting a little update on some of the other BB characters.  No surprises.  
 

Wonder what he heard on the phone when he called Kim’s place of employment?  Doesn’t look good.  Felt she would be safe, now don’t know.

 

Last few episodes should be great.  We now know we will most likely see what happens to Jimmy, AKA Saul, AKA Gene.  With two episodes showing Gene, that’s the path they chose, not memory law lane with huge doses of BB.  Then again, I’m probably wrong.

 

Yeah I noticed that too.  Jesse looks a lot thicker in the face.

 

I hope they reveal what was said on the phone where he lost it.  I'm hoping it's something like she moved to Europe or something.  Suicide did cross my mind but I don't think Gilligan would do that.  

[May Day 10]

45 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said:

 

I started getting that feeling.  Man, I feel like we probably have a heartbreaking ending to this show and series. 

 

Can another spin off happen?

 

After some thinking.... it could be a trick to give us all a feeling he is going to be in a grave soon, and symbolize that "Gene" is dead.

 

It doesn't look good though.  Saul going after a nice man with cancer, and making a series of bad decisions really erodes that 'sympathetic figure' veneer.

 

I don't know how you can have Saul keep on keeping on at the end, and not assume he will have a lot of damaging hijinks later on, which doesn't seem like the writers' style.  To date they have never really left anything open-ended.  You have Jesse, but you were led to believe that he wanted to/could lead a rather un-eventful life in Alaska.  

  

 

 

[coloradobillsfan]

4 minutes ago, May Day 10 said:

You have Jesse, but you were led to believe that he wanted to/could lead a rather un-eventful life in Alaska.  

Alaska isn't Siberia - they have TV's and watch the news and the implication was always that the Walter White story was a national story.  I would think that even in a remote place like Alaska, a young man who suddenly shows up with scars all over his face and body would attract some local attention.  Sure he could lam it like WW did in New Hampshire and never leave his cabin but that doesn't fit with Jesse's personality to spend the rest of his life living in isolation.  

[May Day 10]

22 minutes ago, coloradobillsfan said:

Alaska isn't Siberia - they have TV's and watch the news and the implication was always that the Walter White story was a national story.  I would think that even in a remote place like Alaska, a young man who suddenly shows up with scars all over his face and body would attract some local attention.  Sure he could lam it like WW did in New Hampshire and never leave his cabin but that doesn't fit with Jesse's personality to spend the rest of his life living in isolation.  

 

Sure, but you are led to believe internally, Jesse is generally a kind person and was motivated to lead a normal, quiet life in a small town in Alaska.  Maybe externally, there is a story where someone recognizes him and blows him in, but that is external.  Through the story, we are generally led to believe that if you follow the vacuum-man's instructions, you will be safe.  

 

With Gene's turn to Saul again, and the pattern of the the 5+ seasons, we see that Saul cannot help himself to schemes and committing crimes, while dragging people in with him.  Now it is far beyond mischief or somewhat harmless petty fraud.   Not only do you have the 'danger' of him being identified and turned in to authorities, you have to assume at this point he will perpetually commit crime until he is dead.  I cant picture these writers leaving that large of a loose end.  

Edited August 2, 2022 by May Day 10

[coloradobillsfan]

3 minutes ago, May Day 10 said:

Through the story, we are generally led to believe that if you follow the vacuum-man's instructions, you will be safe.  

And this proved to be false security, because for some reason Ed set up Saul with the Cinnabon job he foreshadowed which put Gene directly in public view where he was ultimately identified

[PastaJoe]

 

[Dr Krentist]

It was well executed the way they went back and forth with the scenes from BCS and BB. It paralleled Saul breaking bad like Walt did. Saul says to Mike "A guy with a mustache like that can’t be one to make good life choices." and we see "Gene" with a mustache like that. Mike told Saul not to bother with Walt because he was small potatoes. He does anyway and you know how that turned out. The shot where he goes to Walt's school and it turns into the cancer guy's home makes me believe he's making the same mistake.

[davefan66]

16 hours ago, Royale with Cheese said:

 

Yeah I noticed that too.  Jesse looks a lot thicker in the face.

 

I hope they reveal what was said on the phone where he lost it.  I'm hoping it's something like she moved to Europe or something.  Suicide did cross my mind but I don't think Gilligan would do that.  

Don’t think that’s in her character to do that.  I hope not.
 

Felt like they’d reunite, not thinking that anymore.  Wondering if he survives.  Jimmy was a little erratic in the last episode, not as careful as he should be.  Keep an eye on the new guy he fired.

[davefan66]

Just found this on YouTube.

 

A faux documentary on Jimmy.

 

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=&ved=2ahUKEwjX9pLEtqr5AhVSg4kEHV_nBgYQtwJ6BAgaEAI&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DuX_Hwr_ZCic&usg=AOvVaw06o3Gc3bwmsA0gGoIn64lE

Edited August 3, 2022 by davefan66

[shrader]

I love how they've essentially stopped showing scenes from next week.  They're giving the smallest teaser possible and it's great.

[ProcessYaDigg]

On 8/2/2022 at 7:26 AM, davefan66 said:

Interesting episode. Didn’t know the title until the show aired.  Figured from the title we’d see BB characters.

 

Walt looked and acted like Walt. Jesse looked so different and acted too intelligent.  I know they’ve grown older since BB, but man it was weird.

 

Neat getting a little update on some of the other BB characters.  No surprises.  
 

Wonder what he heard on the phone when he called Kim’s place of employment?  Doesn’t look good.  Felt she would be safe, now don’t know.

 

Last few episodes should be great.  We now know we will most likely see what happens to Jimmy, AKA Saul, AKA Gene.  With two episodes showing Gene, that’s the path they chose, not memory law lane with huge doses of BB.  Then again, I’m probably wrong.

That was my thought exactly.  I was so excited to see Walt and Jesse back, even though it was expected.  But I was a little upset that it seemed like Jesse was way more mature during this scene.  I know in reality he's older, but he's also an actor.  I was waiting for him to screw something up or to just be talking and complaining non-stop, in typical Jesse fashion. 

[meazza]

Jesse was terrible.  Seems like he forgot how to play pinkman.  

[Logic]

On 8/2/2022 at 8:15 AM, Royale with Cheese said:

 

Can another spin off happen?

While I don't think the writers are going to do this, I was thinking about it after the episode a couple weeks back:

A Gus Fring prequel spinoff.

Again, I know it won't happen, but he's the most compelling character remaining. Diving into his early life and learning what led him to the life we know him to lead in Better Call Saul and Breaking Bad would be cool. With what we now know regarding an apparent repressed homosexuality, it sure seems like there'd be enough material in this character's backstory to get a few seasons' worth of good TV out of.

[Royale with Cheese]

30 minutes ago, Logic said:

While I don't think the writers are going to do this, I was thinking about it after the episode a couple weeks back:

A Gus Fring prequel spinoff.

Again, I know it won't happen, but he's the most compelling character remaining. Diving into his early life and learning what led him to the life we know him to lead in Better Call Saul and Breaking Bad would be cool. With what we now know regarding an apparent repressed homosexuality, it sure seems like there'd be enough material in this character's backstory to get a few seasons' worth of good TV out of.

I think Fring or Ermantraut (sp?)

Edited August 3, 2022 by Royale with Cheese

[Logic]

Just now, Royale with Cheese said:

I thing Fring or Ermantraut (sp?)

Ooh yeah. That would be a good one.

The only problem there is that Mike is visibly getting up there in years. Depending how far back they wanted the prequel to go -- and one presumes it would be centered around his time as a cop -- they might have to use that weird de-aging technology.

[Royale with Cheese]

1 hour ago, Logic said:

Ooh yeah. That would be a good one.

The only problem there is that Mike is visibly getting up there in years. Depending how far back they wanted the prequel to go -- and one presumes it would be centered around his time as a cop -- they might have to use that weird de-aging technology.

Do you ever think a spin off with Pinkman and his life in Alaska would be interesting?

[aristocrat]

42 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said:

Do you ever think a spin off with Pinkman and his life in Alaska would be interesting?

Tends his chicken coop, goes fishing, hunting, back inside to watch tv. Repeat until he kill’s himself cause he can’t do anything else. 

[Royale with Cheese]

1 hour ago, aristocrat said:

Tends his chicken coop, goes fishing, hunting, back inside to watch tv. Repeat until he kill’s himself cause he can’t do anything else. 

Or he brings you the blue stuff up there.

Finds Alaskan trashy hookers and fights bear hunters over territory.

[May Day 10]

4 hours ago, Logic said:

While I don't think the writers are going to do this, I was thinking about it after the episode a couple weeks back:

A Gus Fring prequel spinoff.

Again, I know it won't happen, but he's the most compelling character remaining. Diving into his early life and learning what led him to the life we know him to lead in Better Call Saul and Breaking Bad would be cool. With what we now know regarding an apparent repressed homosexuality, it sure seems like there'd be enough material in this character's backstory to get a few seasons' worth of good TV out of.

 

There isn't much prequel remaining I think.

 

I think you could get some 2 hour movie or double-episode type things.  Perhaps digging into fring's beginnings or the salamancas/Cartel.  Maybe even a fun thing with skinny pete/badger... or huell/kuby

 

Anything stretched into full episodic television would be too much

[PastaJoe]

11 hours ago, Royale with Cheese said:

Do you ever think a spin off with Pinkman and his life in Alaska would be interesting?

Didn’t Dexter move to Alaska? Perhaps a crossover where Dexter stalks Pinkman. 🤔

[aristocrat]

Seems like we will get more Pinkman based on the preview I just saw. 

12 hours ago, Royale with Cheese said:

Or he brings you the blue stuff up there.

Finds Alaskan trashy hookers and fights bear hunters over territory.

 

So blue meth shows up in Alaska and you don't think the DEA wouldn't notice immediately?  This national story where one of the main suspects flees and where multiple DEA agents were murdered?

[Royale with Cheese]

3 hours ago, PastaJoe said:

Didn’t Dexter move to Alaska? Perhaps a crossover where Dexter stalks Pinkman. 🤔

 

i never saw Dexter.  I'm assuming its PG?

3 minutes ago, aristocrat said:

Seems like we will get more Pinkman based on the preview I just saw. 

 

So blue meth shows up in Alaska and you don't think the DEA wouldn't notice immediately?  This national story where one of the main suspects flees and where multiple DEA agents were murdered?

 

Does the DEA even know Alaska exists?

[C.Biscuit97]

Show was so slow and almost gave up on it but really glad I stuck with it. I’m going to miss it when it’s over. 

[PastaJoe]

4 hours ago, Royale with Cheese said:

 

i never saw Dexter.  I'm assuming its PG?

Dexter is definitely not PG. He’s a serial murderer who only kills criminals, and does so while keeping them alive long enough to let them know why.

[Special K]

On 8/2/2022 at 6:51 AM, May Day 10 said:

Yeah, he went full villain going hard at that guy with cancer.  Also, the little foreshadowing with the mini grave fading with him laying in it isn't a good sign

 

I think he’s going so hard on this guy because of misplaced anger....he sees this guy with cancer as Walter White....the person who ruined his life as Saul sees it.......although as the great scene with Mike in Saul’s office shows us, it’s truly Saul’s fault he is in the position he is in.

[shrader]

10 hours ago, Special K said:

 

I think he’s going so hard on this guy because of misplaced anger....he sees this guy with cancer as Walter White....the person who ruined his life as Saul sees it.......although as the great scene with Mike in Saul’s office shows us, it’s truly Saul’s fault he is in the position he is in.

 

I blame those skateboarder swindlers from the first episode that led him directly to Tuco.😃

Edited August 5, 2022 by shrader

[gomper]

What an extraordinary episode.  Poor Kim finally let all the grief out for what she did to Howard and her own life. Gene about to kill Carol Burnett. Wow, just tremendous. One last chapter to go.

[Dr Krentist]

Yep, yep, yep 😆. Kim living the mundane life. Too afraid to make decisions and take charge. At least the weight is off her shoulders now. I like going on Reddit and reading the post episode discussion. It's amazing what easter eggs people catch and the insights: https://www.reddit.com/r/betterCallSaul/comments/wjrb0d/better_call_saul_s06e12_waterworks_postepisode/

 

If the transition from last weeks episode when it goes from the grave to him laying in bed is any indication, it may not bode well for Saul ☹️

[Royale with Cheese]

5 hours ago, gomper said:

What an extraordinary episode.  Poor Kim finally let all the grief out for what she did to Howard and her own life. Gene about to kill Carol Burnett. Wow, just tremendous. One last chapter to go.

 

When Gene wrapped that cord around his hands looking to strangle, I kinda saw that as the end of him.  I didn't think he would actually do it but it showed me he's lost it.  

 

I just wonder how Jimmy will take the "betrayal" of Kim.  I cannot wait for next week.

[Dr Krentist]

3 hours ago, Royale with Cheese said:

 

When Gene wrapped that cord around his hands looking to strangle, I kinda saw that as the end of him.  I didn't think he would actually do it but it showed me he's lost it.  

 

I just wonder how Jimmy will take the "betrayal" of Kim.  I cannot wait for next week.

 

He was turning in to Walter White. The loaf of bread when he enters the kitchen said White. Luckily he snapped out of it when Marion said "I trusted you". One more episode ☹️

[Royale with Cheese]

1 hour ago, Dr Krentist said:

 

He was turning in to Walter White. The loaf of bread when he enters the kitchen said White. Luckily he snapped out of it when Marion said "I trusted you". One more episode ☹️

 

Dude, that's pretty awesome that you caught that!

[K-9]

6 hours ago, Royale with Cheese said:

 

When Gene wrapped that cord around his hands looking to strangle, I kinda saw that as the end of him.  I didn't think he would actually do it but it showed me he's lost it.  

 

I just wonder how Jimmy will take the "betrayal" of Kim.  I cannot wait for next week.

 

2 hours ago, Dr Krentist said:

 

He was turning in to Walter White. The loaf of bread when he enters the kitchen said White. Luckily he snapped out of it when Marion said "I trusted you". One more episode ☹️

Yep. Saul is now the one who knocks like he did at Marion’s back door. He’s totally broken bad. I wonder if he will take Kim’s advice and actually turn himself in after all. 

[Royale with Cheese]

31 minutes ago, K-9 said:

 

Yep. Saul is now the one who knocks like he did at Marion’s back door. He’s totally broken bad. I wonder if he will take Kim’s advice and actually turn himself in after all. 

 

That's what I'm really wondering.  Does he go out like Walt or does the guilt eat him up and does turn himself in?

[Dr Krentist]

Well, this is it. The end of an era.

[Mr Info]

Looking forward to the surprise.

Final episode info: 

“In a road-trip story, a reclusive prepper abandons his bunker in search of a female prepper from his past; along the way, he meets an unlikely ally who is his polar opposite; they team up in an effort to find their loved ones.”
 

The last episode promo is odd:

We hear Saul saying the vacuum model code that may be used to convey to the vacuum man that he needs extraction and a new identity. But as we hear Saul saying this—out of breath and clearly in distress—we see Saul’s 1998 Suzuki Esteem that was shot up during the ambush in the desert last season, when Saul almost got killed retrieving Lalo’s bail money. 

We know that Lalo and Nacho found the car but nothing has been mentioned of it since. What is the significance?

[gomper]

9 minutes ago, Mr Info said:

Looking forward to the surprise.

Final episode info: 

“In a road-trip story, a reclusive prepper abandons his bunker in search of a female prepper from his past; along the way, he meets an unlikely ally who is his polar opposite; they team up in an effort to find their loved ones.”
 

The last episode promo is odd:

We hear Saul saying the vacuum model code that may be used to convey to the vacuum man that he needs extraction and a new identity. But as we hear Saul saying this—out of breath and clearly in distress—we see Saul’s 1998 Suzuki Esteem that was shot up during the ambush in the desert last season, when Saul almost got killed retrieving Lalo’s bail money. 

We know that Lalo and Nacho found the car but nothing has been mentioned of it since. What is the significance?

If this is in play, then I have no idea.  Really, I'm completely in the dark about tonight. Theories abound but what I'm truly going to miss is the magnificent writing (obviously amongst other things) and constantly being surprised. That's a special talent these days. It's comforting to know that whatever happens, it'll be excellent. Can't say that about many shows, ever.

 

BCS has joined BB, Sopranos, The Wire in the TV HOF. It's been a great ride.