Chef Jim Posted February 17, 2022 Share Posted February 17, 2022 18 minutes ago, BillStime said: Don't you hate when facts get in the way? Yes the fact that he disrespects you got in the way of him arguing with you. 😂 7 minutes ago, Tiberius said: Yes, but not economically disruptive like these are That’s why these will work and BLM and ANTIFA didn’t. You know kind of like economic sanctions you all cry for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted February 17, 2022 Share Posted February 17, 2022 1 hour ago, Tiberius said: A whole hour?? So, if it lasts longer its much worse, right? Trudeau voices support for farmers in India who blocked major highways to New Delhi for more than a year in 2021, saying at the time: “Canada will always be there to defend the right of peaceful protest.” That certainly didn’t age well Justine. Were you lying then or are you lying now? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
All_Pro_Bills Posted February 17, 2022 Share Posted February 17, 2022 7 minutes ago, Tiberius said: Yes, but not economically disruptive like these are That's a bit of revisionist history as Antifa and BLM protests that included riots, looting, and property destruction, and violence against others were indeed economically disruptive. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted February 17, 2022 Share Posted February 17, 2022 3 minutes ago, B-Man said: Trudeau voices support for farmers in India who blocked major highways to New Delhi for more than a year in 2021, saying at the time: “Canada will always be there to defend the right of peaceful protest.” That certainly didn’t age well Justine. Were you lying then or are you lying now? Ok, ya, this matters 3 minutes ago, All_Pro_Bills said: That's a bit of revisionist history as Antifa and BLM protests that included riots, looting, and property destruction, and violence against others were indeed economically disruptive. Different, these protests are there to stop commercial activity on a wide scale Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted February 17, 2022 Share Posted February 17, 2022 55 minutes ago, Niagara Bill said: Ok SoCal. Streets where people live and unable to sleep, park their cars, drive to their homes have been held captive for 19 days. Thus is not in a place like the Washingtin monu. The need for the Act is ridiculous, but supported by all political parties, a feat that us impossible in Washington. Yes Trudeau is a wimp, but has fairly treated the protesting citizens, but the time has come to allow other citizens to return to their homes. Now answer my question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Big Blitz Posted February 17, 2022 Share Posted February 17, 2022 32 minutes ago, Tiberius said: Ok, ya, this matters Different, these protests are there to stop commercial activity on a wide scale How about instead of twisting yourself into a pretzel about thr validity of the protests you comment on the validity of their concerns and their Fuhrer's response. Same Bill Stime. Who keeps posting about fox news and who's behind the truckers. Like they cared about the communist groups behind BLM and the George Floyd protests. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted February 17, 2022 Share Posted February 17, 2022 4 minutes ago, Big Blitz said: How about instead of twisting yourself into a pretzel about thr validity of the protests you comment on the validity of their concerns and their Fuhrer's response. Same Bill Stime. Who keeps posting about fox news and who's behind the truckers. Like they cared about the communist groups behind BLM and the George Floyd protests. You seem to be saying that these commercial roadblocks are ok. But that BLM protests are bad. Is that right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Blitz Posted February 17, 2022 Share Posted February 17, 2022 1 minute ago, Tiberius said: You seem to be saying that these commercial roadblocks are ok. But that BLM protests are bad. Is that right? No. I'm saying both are fine. The voters can decide if their mayors allowing that was OK. I didn't call for Trump to freeze bank accounts and declare martial law. I jdisagreed with the socialists in BLM's "cause." 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Posted February 17, 2022 Share Posted February 17, 2022 10 minutes ago, Tiberius said: You seem to be saying that these commercial roadblocks are ok. But that BLM protests are bad. Is that right? No, that’s exactly what you are saying 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted February 17, 2022 Share Posted February 17, 2022 16 minutes ago, Big Blitz said: No. I'm saying both are fine. The voters can decide if their mayors allowing that was OK. I didn't call for Trump to freeze bank accounts and declare martial law. I jdisagreed with the socialists in BLM's "cause." You think it's fine if they attempt to disrupt the economy? I don't. No way Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niagara Bill Posted February 17, 2022 Share Posted February 17, 2022 1 hour ago, LeviF said: Which part of the Enabl-, er, sorry, Emergencies Act, is invoked to "avoid cornering?" Their government refuses to budge on any of the mandates. This is their only stated goal, and Trudeau won't even come to the table. I'm editing hopefully quickly enough that you'll catch all of this because I have to ask: if this (freezing bank accounts, labeling citizens as terrorists) is how Trudeau treats potent, nonviolent, citizen opposition, what does that say about protests in which these things do not occur? Nah I'm sanguine. New York kind of sucks but America generally rocks, regardless of whatever ridiculous crap comes out of Washington every year. No government can respond to 300 citizens demand in an area that 88% of people were vaxxed, who followed the rules requested. Many restrictions including travel types, passports, some masking, restaurants to 100%, sports venues have already been announced and scheduled to change in the next 14 days. What is the point. Truckers from Canada can STILL not enter US unless fully vaxxed. As to banks accounts and terrorist, the legal issue is to allow dealing with groups like proud boys, gangs and others who are now entering the fray. In Alberta the good protesters went home when 11 people were arrested in the blockade with guns and weapons. The original protesters were honest and true, others are now trying to take advantage. There us no need for US donations or Russian donations unless it is truly just a cover for a more nefarious plot. Trudeau has lost the hill and any good will he could have had. The Ottawa mayor is in trouble, the Police chief quit, obviously a lot of political interference. 58 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said: Now answer my question. Never saw a question, just a political pronouncement Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted February 17, 2022 Share Posted February 17, 2022 5 minutes ago, Niagara Bill said: No government can respond to 300 citizens demand in an area that 88% of people were vaxxed, who followed the rules requested. Many restrictions including travel types, passports, some masking, restaurants to 100%, sports venues have already been announced and scheduled to change in the next 14 days. What is the point. Truckers from Canada can STILL not enter US unless fully vaxxed. As to banks accounts and terrorist, the legal issue is to allow dealing with groups like proud boys, gangs and others who are now entering the fray. In Alberta the good protesters went home when 11 people were arrested in the blockade with guns and weapons. The original protesters were honest and true, others are now trying to take advantage. There us no need for US donations or Russian donations unless it is truly just a cover for a more nefarious plot. Trudeau has lost the hill and any good will he could have had. The Ottawa mayor is in trouble, the Police chief quit, obviously a lot of political interference. Never saw a question, just a political pronouncement I asked whether the PM would be tapping into back accounts if the protest was in favor of his administration? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted February 17, 2022 Share Posted February 17, 2022 "We should be able to do anything, I mean BLM happened!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aristocrat Posted February 17, 2022 Share Posted February 17, 2022 4 minutes ago, Tiberius said: "We should be able to do anything, I mean BLM happened!" You need to differentiate between violence and rioting and having an actual protest. You know the difference don't you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted February 17, 2022 Share Posted February 17, 2022 1 hour ago, Tiberius said: Different, these protests are there to stop commercial activity on a wide scale So we have you on record as saying the destruction of the local economies due to protest are a-ok? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted February 17, 2022 Share Posted February 17, 2022 2 minutes ago, aristocrat said: You need to differentiate between violence and rioting and having an actual protest. You know the difference don't you? If they are going to try and gum up the economy, just arrest them and ship them off to camps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aristocrat Posted February 17, 2022 Share Posted February 17, 2022 2 minutes ago, Tiberius said: If they are going to try and gum up the economy, just arrest them and ship them off to camps. So during the riots there was well over 2 billion in property damage alone, they shut down countless businesses as they rioted all summer and the businesses stayed boarded up. So you would have sent the blm to camps? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Blitz Posted February 17, 2022 Share Posted February 17, 2022 23 minutes ago, Tiberius said: You think it's fine if they attempt to disrupt the economy? I don't. No way Really? I've got a March 20th 2020 or whatever day it was shutdown order that saw 33 million jobs lost. You didn't mind that. "Disrupt the economy bad." But people losing livelihoods is OK. Makes sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted February 17, 2022 Share Posted February 17, 2022 1 minute ago, Big Blitz said: Really? I've got a March 20th 2020 or whatever day it was shutdown order that saw 33 million jobs lost. You didn't mind that. "Disrupt the economy bad." But people losing livelihoods is OK. Makes sense. And that makes what the "truckers" are doing ok? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted February 17, 2022 Share Posted February 17, 2022 (edited) 13 minutes ago, aristocrat said: So during the riots there was well over 2 billion in property damage alone, they shut down countless businesses as they rioted all summer and the businesses stayed boarded up. So you would have sent the blm to camps? Businesses?? They ***** shut down local government agencies!! For some reason that's cool but January 6th was worse than 911. Now don't take that to mean I agree with the 911 rioters. I can be a hypocrite sometimes (we all can) but not THAT much of a hypocrite. Edited February 17, 2022 by Chef Jim 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeviF Posted February 17, 2022 Share Posted February 17, 2022 33 minutes ago, Niagara Bill said: No government can respond to 300 citizens demand in an area that 88% of people were vaxxed, who followed the rules requested. Many restrictions including travel types, passports, some masking, restaurants to 100%, sports venues have already been announced and scheduled to change in the next 14 days. What is the point. Truckers from Canada can STILL not enter US unless fully vaxxed. As to banks accounts and terrorist, the legal issue is to allow dealing with groups like proud boys, gangs and others who are now entering the fray. In Alberta the good protesters went home when 11 people were arrested in the blockade with guns and weapons. The original protesters were honest and true, others are now trying to take advantage. There us no need for US donations or Russian donations unless it is truly just a cover for a more nefarious plot. Trudeau has lost the hill and any good will he could have had. The Ottawa mayor is in trouble, the Police chief quit, obviously a lot of political interference. If your upshot is that there is no other way out, I can respect that. Just understand that the same sentiment will be had by those being targeted by these measures. They want their demands met. At this point I would include in said list of demands that it be codified that nothing like these measures can ever happen again. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niagara Bill Posted February 17, 2022 Share Posted February 17, 2022 25 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said: I asked whether the PM would be tapping into back accounts if the protest was in favor of his administration? If they supported him it is likely not to be protesting for 19 days. They are not into personal accounts, but for terrorists, yes is the answer. A citizen can be a terrorists, many examples of that. Of course, if protesters want to locate in a location not affecting other citizens, likely less issues. The protesters have set up soup and food buffets, saunas, music with dj's tents, yurts,. If any other citizen in this area were to do that, likely would be charged. Bars in the area have noise by laws after 11pm. This so far has been peaceful for sure, proud of them for that and I am sure big bad government does not want to stir violent reactions. Many countries have had violent protests. Very different circumstances. Both parties are now between rock and hard place. 8 minutes ago, LeviF said: If your upshot is that there is no other way out, I can respect that. Just understand that the same sentiment will be had by those being targeted by these measures. They want their demands met. At this point I would include in said list of demands that it be codified that nothing like these measures can ever happen again. As I said to SoCal, rock and hard place for both Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Big Blitz Posted February 17, 2022 Share Posted February 17, 2022 37 minutes ago, Tiberius said: And that makes what the "truckers" are doing ok? No what it proves is you're a massive hypocrite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted February 17, 2022 Share Posted February 17, 2022 12 minutes ago, Big Blitz said: No what it proves is you're a massive hypocrite. Oh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted February 17, 2022 Share Posted February 17, 2022 This issue is NOT complicated…no matter how many rabbit holes this board wants to go down. It’s not about honking horns, and it’s not about violence. It’s about whether the regime in charge (no matter which side) treats protestors differently depending on whether they are pro or anti the regime. I think EVERYONE on here knows the answer. Sheeesh! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaCrispy Posted February 17, 2022 Share Posted February 17, 2022 More mandates! Phizer’s not done making it rain Benjamin’s...😉 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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BillStime Posted February 17, 2022 Share Posted February 17, 2022 3 hours ago, LeviF said: If your upshot is that there is no other way out, I can respect that. Just understand that the same sentiment will be had by those being targeted by these measures. They want their demands met. At this point I would include in said list of demands that it be codified that nothing like these measures can ever happen again. W H A T E V E R Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted February 17, 2022 Share Posted February 17, 2022 21 minutes ago, BillStime said: W H A T E V E R We are not against and never will be against protesting police brutality. It’s not what was being protested. It was the manner in which the “protests” took place. By their actions from day one BLM screwed up any support based on their behaviors. Their marketing was/is horrible. The fact that you appear to not understand this is mind blowing. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Blitz Posted February 17, 2022 Share Posted February 17, 2022 (edited) 14 minutes ago, Chef Jim said: We are not against and never will be against protesting police brutality. It’s not what was being protested. It was the manner in which the “protests” took place. By their actions from day one BLM screwed up any support based on their behaviors. Their marketing was/is horrible. The fact that you appear to not understand this is mind blowing. Is it really mind blowing tho at this point. It's expected. We share ZERO of the big things needed to be a united country. NOTHING. Long term - no these morons will not suddenly find their way and realize they have shredded the social contract and constitution they hate here. They are only going to get crazier and worse. Think about where they were 10 or just 3 years ago. Look at them now. Anyone see this coming in 2019? They did - from Trump - lolol the joke that they are. They're straight up full of ***t that this virus is why they are doing what they do. It's the addiction they have to power and control and that addiction doesn't ever stop. President CDC told you (because its science) that people need a "break" from masks - and we "might need them later." They will never give you back what they've taken - freedom from their bio medical police state. They are pre 1930s Germany right now. I'd say we're about.....1926 Germany. Every single red flag is there. Voting them out won't be enough bc they de facto control all the banks and corporations who in turn now answer to China. It's either Secession or the morons in their party like Bill start standing up to the Covidiots and make it clear "we're done here take your mandates and f...off." If they can't do that, we're done here. Edited February 17, 2022 by Big Blitz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillStime Posted February 17, 2022 Share Posted February 17, 2022 15 minutes ago, Chef Jim said: We are not against and never will be against protesting police brutality. It’s not what was being protested. It was the manner in which the “protests” took place. By their actions from day one BLM screwed up any support based on their behaviors. Their marketing was/is horrible. The fact that you appear to not understand this is mind blowing. The fact that you appear to not understand this is mind blowing. 6 hours ago, BillStime said: No way! You're pro TUCKER Trucker? And it is a real shame your friends had to instigate the peaceful BLM protests... a fact the cult continues to ignore because it doesn't fit the narrative. Trump security chief acknowledges role of white supremacist extremists in U.S. urban violence White supremacist instigated looting at George Floyd protest Black Lives Matter in a haven for white supremacists Man who helped ignite George Floyd riots identified as white supremacist Far-Right Infiltrators and Agitators in George Floyd Protests Extremists Are Sparking Protest Violence. Richmond riots instigated by white supremacists disguised as Black Lives Matter White supremacist admits to firing AK-47 into Minneapolis police station during George Floyd protests Riots, white supremacy, and accelerationism White Supremacists Infiltrated Black Lives Matter Protest to Instigate Riots Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted February 17, 2022 Share Posted February 17, 2022 29 minutes ago, BillStime said: The fact that you appear to not understand this is mind blowing. A lot of nearly 2 year old accusations that have resulted in how many arrests. One man (umbrella man) gets all the blame for the Minnesota riots by breaking a windows but those that destroyed businesses burned ***** down get a pass? Are you really going with this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted February 17, 2022 Share Posted February 17, 2022 3 minutes ago, Chef Jim said: A lot of nearly 2 year old accusations that have resulted in how many arrests. One man (umbrella man) gets all the blame for the Minnesota riots by breaking a windows but those that destroyed businesses burned ***** down get a pass? Are you really going with this? Don’t feed the trolls. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillStime Posted February 17, 2022 Share Posted February 17, 2022 5 minutes ago, Chef Jim said: A lot of nearly 2 year old accusations that have resulted in how many arrests. One man (umbrella man) gets all the blame for the Minnesota riots by breaking a windows but those that destroyed businesses burned ***** down get a pass? Are you really going with this? It's a shame Trump sent in his goons to purposely disrupt these peaceful protests.... what would the cult do without this talking point, Jim? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Blitz Posted February 17, 2022 Share Posted February 17, 2022 1 hour ago, B-Man said: But Canada's covid protocols did none of those things, right Justin? Blockades and occupations. Lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted February 17, 2022 Share Posted February 17, 2022 25 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said: Don’t feed the trolls. Ha. I need to follow my own advice. Thanks for the advice Chef but…… Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted February 17, 2022 Share Posted February 17, 2022 27 minutes ago, BillStime said: It's a shame Trump sent in his goons to purposely disrupt these peaceful protests.... what would the cult do without this talking point, Jim? What in earth are you talking about? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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