2022 RB Draft class looks pretty good

[BuffaloBill]

16 hours ago, Bill from NYC said:

Maybe for old times sake we can trade up to #9 in round 1 and draft Spiller.

 

 

Ouch - one of the more inane moves by the Bills.  No way do you take a RB in round 1 in today’s NFL.

[Rubes]

17 hours ago, Doc said:

Concentrate on the OL in the off-season.  Going to need at least a new starting C and LG.

 

I agree. I'd like to see us bring in one stud G in free agency, then draft one in round 1. Pick up a backup C to groom in round 3 or 4. In two years our OL is a team strength.

 

[NewEra]

4 minutes ago, Rubes said:

 

I agree. I'd like to see us bring in one stud G in free agency, then draft one in round 1. Pick up a backup C to groom in round 3 or 4. In two years our OL is a team strength.

 

I hope you’re right.  It’s possible as long as Dawkins returns to pre COVid form.  He’s been one of the worst OLmen on the team this season. Brown vs TB was laughable.  He was the worst player on the field in the first half.  Mental mistakes up the wazoo.

 

 

[thenorthremembers]

The class overall is average.   Shouldnt be any 1st round picks in the group, but the middle 2-3 rounds have pretty good options for contributors.

 

Just watched 3 games on both Hall and Walker.   My preference right now would be Walker because he brings the size and speed aspect.   However, even beyond being a Bills fan Hall is a little bit of a Fred Jackson clone.   Runs upright like Fred did, not the fastest player, but is elusive in the open field,  is able to absorb contact well, hard to bring down, and falls forward on most plays.  

 

My main issue with Hall right now is he struggled against teams with stout defensive lines, and was brought down behind the line enough to concern you.  Wonder if the lack of speed is an issue like it is with our current backs.   In comparison, Walker exploded this year against some very good defenses.  

[NewEra]

11 minutes ago, thenorthremembers said:

The class overall is average.   Shouldnt be any 1st round picks in the group, but the middle 2-3 rounds have pretty good options for contributors.

 

Just watched 3 games on both Hall and Walker.   My preference right now would be Walker because he brings the size and speed aspect.   However, even beyond being a Bills fan Hall is a little bit of a Fred Jackson clone.   Runs upright like Fred did, not the fastest player, but is elusive in the open field,  is able to absorb contact well, hard to bring down, and falls forward on most plays.  

 

My main issue with Hall right now is he struggled against teams with stout defensive lines, and was brought down behind the line enough to concern you.  Wonder if the lack of speed is an issue like it is with our current backs.   In comparison, Walker exploded this year against some very good defenses.  

Ditto.  Well put together post.  Hate seeing ankle injuries before getting to the nfl but every rb gets hurt for the most part.  

[Solomon Grundy]

55 minutes ago, thenorthremembers said:

The class overall is average.   Shouldnt be any 1st round picks in the group, but the middle 2-3 rounds have pretty good options for contributors.

 

Just watched 3 games on both Hall and Walker.   My preference right now would be Walker because he brings the size and speed aspect.   However, even beyond being a Bills fan Hall is a little bit of a Fred Jackson clone.   Runs upright like Fred did, not the fastest player, but is elusive in the open field,  is able to absorb contact well, hard to bring down, and falls forward on most plays.  

 

My main issue with Hall right now is he struggled against teams with stout defensive lines, and was brought down behind the line enough to concern you.  Wonder if the lack of speed is an issue like it is with our current backs.   In comparison, Walker exploded this year against some very good defenses.  

I’ll take a Fred Jackson clone any day of the week. The problem with Walker is that he’s a one year wonder. Hall has been producing since day one. I want to see Breece against Clemson. He did well against Baylor

[thenorthremembers]

41 minutes ago, Solomon Grundy said:

I’ll take a Fred Jackson clone any day of the week. The problem with Walker is that he’s a one year wonder. Hall has been producing since day one. I want to see Breece against Clemson. He did well against Baylor

I get what you're saying about the one year wonder thing, but I think if you look at his output at Wake you may see that its not completely accurate.  He scored 13 touchdowns in 2020, and while his yards per carry could have been higher in 2020, his overall work at Wake was good despite a lack of touches.     May have been even better if he wasnt splitting carries.

 

The main difference I see between Walker and Hall is the explosiveness to their first read.   Hall is a more patient runner, but Walker makes decisions a lot faster, which is what I think the Bills really need.

[Billl]

20 hours ago, 78thealltimegreat said:

 

The Bills could actually get a nice Guard prospect cause it is deep at Guard in the first

Comeback with RB to get at least Moss

replaced and immediately upgrade the depth at two positions

If Beane goes Guard - RB in the first 2 rounds he should be fired before making his third pick.

[Alphadawg7]

18 hours ago, 78thealltimegreat said:

Obviously if Zack Moss turns it around would be the best news but should he keep getting benched…

 

With KJ Walker declaring for the draft there’s like 5 top 2ish round kinda prospects 

Bryce Hall Iowa State

Isiah Spiller (no relation to CJ) Texas A&M

Zamir White Georgia 

KJ Walker Sparty

 Zach Charbonnet UCLA

 

The Bills could actually get a nice Guard prospect cause it is deep at Guard in the first

Comeback with RB to get at least Moss

replaced and immediately upgrade the depth at two positions 

 

I gotta be honest...it still baffles me why people think the bigger issue with our run game is the running backs themselves.  Our OL is not opening lanes, and its both an issue with personnel and scheme.  

 

Look at Tenn, any scrub off the street keeps coming in and putting up 100+ yards behind that OL, including 2 in one game since Henry went down.  Henry was a so-so RB for Tenn for a long time before they built an elite OL.  He was no where near the player the first part of his career there that he has been most the more recent years.  Dont get me wrong, Henry is very talented...but even his talents were being squandered before they fixed the OL.

 

We need to address the OL first...and maybe most importantly, make a change at both OL Coach (fire Bobby Johnson) and possibly OC (Daboll has no idea how to build an offense that has an effective run game).  

 

Im not against upgrading the RB spot, but for me the OL and coaching issues around the OL and run scheme are a bigger priority this offseason.

[billsfan714]

9 hours ago, JMF2006 said:

I wouldn't be upset if they went O line in the first 3 or 4 rounds.

 

You fix the the line and your franchise QB stays healthy and the running game gets better.

 

JMHO

 

 

 

The Bills have Macleod on the PS and Jackson looks ok and there is also Cam Lewis.

 

Levi isn't getting big money anywhere and knows he fits the scheme so he should be back at a value price

Saw Levi's market value at 5.7 million.

[947]

Breece Hall looks slower than Singletary in that highlight. If he's routinely getting caught from behind vs average college teams, he's too slow for the NFL. He's a nice runner & reads blocks well, but he's going to run a 4.7. He's a day 3 pick.

[H2o]

21 hours ago, billsbackto81 said:

Don't know. Jonathan Taylor would look pretty good in a Bills uniform right about now. Assuming we had a competent O line of course.

As would AJ Dillon

[78thealltimegreat]

1 hour ago, Billl said:

If Beane goes Guard - RB in the first 2 rounds he should be fired before making his third pick.

 

35 minutes ago, Alphadawg7 said:

 

I gotta be honest...it still baffles me why people think the bigger issue with our run game is the running backs themselves.  Our OL is not opening lanes, and its both an issue with personnel and scheme.  

 

Look at Tenn, any scrub off the street keeps coming in and putting up 100+ yards behind that OL, including 2 in one game since Henry went down.  Henry was a so-so RB for Tenn for a long time before they built an elite OL.  He was no where near the player the first part of his career there that he has been most the more recent years.  Dont get me wrong, Henry is very talented...but even his talents were being squandered before they fixed the OL.

 

We need to address the OL first...and maybe most importantly, make a change at both OL Coach (fire Bobby Johnson) and possibly OC (Daboll has no idea how to build an offense that has an effective run game).  

 

Im not against upgrading the RB spot, but for me the OL and coaching issues around the OL and run scheme are a bigger priority this offseason.

That lack of vision cost us the pats game that’s why he was benched for Tampa 

6 minutes ago, 947 said:

Breece Hall looks slower than Singletary in that highlight. If he's routinely getting caught from behind vs average college teams, he's too slow for the NFL. He's a nice runner & reads blocks well, but he's going to run a 4.7. He's a day 3 pick.

He ran 4.43 in high school and he’s supposedly faster now 

2 hours ago, ScottLaw said:

Really disagree. They need another playmaker at wide out, and interior offensive line before CB… the defense should be low priority. Stack the offense.

Totally agree we need to load up on O we have enough pics on the d side 

[LABILLBACKER]

36 minutes ago, Alphadawg7 said:

 

I gotta be honest...it still baffles me why people think the bigger issue with our run game is the running backs themselves.  Our OL is not opening lanes, and its both an issue with personnel and scheme.  

 

Look at Tenn, any scrub off the street keeps coming in and putting up 100+ yards behind that OL, including 2 in one game since Henry went down.  Henry was a so-so RB for Tenn for a long time before they built an elite OL.  He was no where near the player the first part of his career there that he has been most the more recent years.  Dont get me wrong, Henry is very talented...but even his talents were being squandered before they fixed the OL.

 

We need to address the OL first...and maybe most importantly, make a change at both OL Coach (fire Bobby Johnson) and possibly OC (Daboll has no idea how to build an offense that has an effective run game).  

 

Im not against upgrading the RB spot, but for me the OL and coaching issues around the OL and run scheme are a bigger priority this offseason.

Totally agree. Beane's strategy this offseason HAS to be committing 3 high picks to G/C. Even if that means signing a big name FA like Scherff.  Most of the resources have to be focused on OL.  I'm not thrilled about our 3 headed rb monster but I could live with Singletary one more year then go shopping in 23 for an elite RB. The only thing that terrifies me is McD will insist on a defensive player somewhere in the first 3 rounds. 

[78thealltimegreat]

5 hours ago, Solomon Grundy said:

@78thealltimegreat, what’s impressing me even more is that if he does enter the draft, he hasn’t dropped out of playing in upcoming bowl game against Clemson. I’ll be watching to see how he performs. He’s Iowa State’s #1 option on offense 

Good point like i said I can see going oline in round 1 definitely but man we need a back with break away speed and he definitely has that 

[LABILLBACKER]

4 hours ago, NewEra said:

I hope you’re right.  It’s possible as long as Dawkins returns to pre COVid form.  He’s been one of the worst OLmen on the team this season. Brown vs TB was laughable.  He was the worst player on the field in the first half.  Mental mistakes up the wazoo.

 

 

I'm glad someone else noticed that. As much as I'm hopefully for Spencer's development,  he looked terrible v TB. And Dawkins has been off all season. 

[MPL]

The 3rd round is clearly the best round to take a running back. 

[transplantbillsfan]

22 hours ago, Nextmanup said:

I would hate for us to burn a 1st or 2nd round draft choice on a RB!

 

 

 

Why?  Sure looks to me like that's the 1 thing our offense is missing.  Draft one in the 2nd round because that seems to be the sweet spot as that's where 3 of the 4 best RBs in the NFL were drafted in Henry, Taylor and Cook.  Kamara was drafted at the top of the 3rd.

 

OL round 1.  RB round 2.... maybe even trading up to get one.

 

I know nothing about any of these RBs, though.  Who do we want?  In other words, who is closer to resembling Taylor or Henry rather than Cook or Kamara?

[Billzgobowlin]

I really liked Khalil Herbert last year.  This year I want to go after Bryce Hall

[Kaenon]

22 hours ago, 78thealltimegreat said:

Obviously if Zack Moss turns it around would be the best news but should he keep getting benched…

 

With KJ Walker declaring for the draft there’s like 5 top 2ish round kinda prospects 

Bryce Hall Iowa State

Isiah Spiller (no relation to CJ) Texas A&M

Zamir White Georgia 

KJ Walker Sparty

 Zach Charbonnet UCLA

 

The Bills could actually get a nice Guard prospect cause it is deep at Guard in the first

Comeback with RB to get at least Moss

replaced and immediately upgrade the depth at two positions 

Huge A&M fan here.

I thought throughout 2021 that Achane was the getter back for the Aggies this year, not Spiller. Achane is so explosive.

Achane won't be coming out this year, but I would put a hold on Spiller, unless you get him bottom of round 2.

 

Gig'em!