B-Man Posted July 11, 2023 Share Posted July 11, 2023 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sherpa Posted July 11, 2023 Share Posted July 11, 2023 20 minutes ago, Chris farley said: Ukraine and Russia have been using cluster munitions since 2014. Cluster Munition Use in Russia-Ukraine War | Human Rights Watch (hrw.org) "Both countries should stop using these inherently indiscriminate weapons, and no country should supply cluster munitions because of their foreseeable danger to civilians." Quick note to Human Rights Watch. All weapons are indiscriminate when they explode. The difference is who is using them, under what rules, what they are using, and how good they are at it. Stop wars and you end the problem. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy Callahan Posted July 11, 2023 Share Posted July 11, 2023 1 minute ago, sherpa said: Stop wars and you end the problem. Agree. that's like the actual mandate of government. UN has also been called out for their use of them in residential areas. but not nearly as much as Russia. there is going to be a WW1 level mine field when this is all said and done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sherpa Posted July 11, 2023 Share Posted July 11, 2023 36 minutes ago, Chris farley said: there is going to be a WW1 level mine field when this is all said and done. Perhaps. One of the reasons the Ukrainian counter offensive is so slow is because the Russians had an entire winter to prepare the battlefield, including mines, tank traps with indirect fire, and a host of other things to slow down an advance, Still, unexploded bomblets from cluster munitions are not hidden underground. They simply lay on the ground, clearly visible. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy Callahan Posted July 11, 2023 Share Posted July 11, 2023 9 minutes ago, sherpa said: Perhaps. One of the reasons the Ukrainian counter offensive is so slow is because the Russians had an entire winter to prepare the battlefield, including mines, tank traps with indirect fire, and a host of other things to slow down an advance, Still, unexploded bomblets from cluster munitions are not hidden underground. They simply lay on the ground, clearly visible. Agree on the first part. I have read that the mechanical divisions are having almost no positive affect for the Ukrainians so far. Not so much outside of urban areas, where they sink in mud and what not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted July 12, 2023 Share Posted July 12, 2023 Poor guy. Lets invite him to address congress again and throw him a few more billion. Zelensky Rages Out and Trashes NATO, Accuses the Alliance of Aiding Russia https://redstate.com/bonchie/2023/07/11/zelensky-rages-out-and-trashes-nato-accuses-the-alliance-of-aiding-russia-n775045 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted July 12, 2023 Author Share Posted July 12, 2023 8 hours ago, B-Man said: Poor guy. Lets invite him to address congress again and throw him a few more billion. Zelensky Rages Out and Trashes NATO, Accuses the Alliance of Aiding Russia https://redstate.com/bonchie/2023/07/11/zelensky-rages-out-and-trashes-nato-accuses-the-alliance-of-aiding-russia-n775045 Ya, your appeasement ideas and surrender monkey ideas are better. MAGA actively cheering for Putin to win. Go live in Russia 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted July 12, 2023 Share Posted July 12, 2023 10 hours ago, B-Man said: Poor guy. Lets invite him to address congress again and throw him a few more billion. Zelensky Rages Out and Trashes NATO, Accuses the Alliance of Aiding Russia https://redstate.com/bonchie/2023/07/11/zelensky-rages-out-and-trashes-nato-accuses-the-alliance-of-aiding-russia-n775045 Again, was the pursuit of NATO membership worth it? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Frankish Reich Posted July 12, 2023 Share Posted July 12, 2023 2 minutes ago, Doc said: Again, was the pursuit of NATO membership worth it? Silly comment on many levels, but let's start with this: you really believe Putin attacked Ukraine because he feared NATO expansion would compromise Russia's security? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiGoose Posted July 12, 2023 Share Posted July 12, 2023 1 minute ago, The Frankish Reich said: Silly comment on many levels, but let's start with this: you really believe Putin attacked Ukraine because he feared NATO expansion would compromise Russia's security? To believe this is to argue that Russia is also going to invade Finland. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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The Frankish Reich Posted July 12, 2023 Share Posted July 12, 2023 13 minutes ago, B-Man said: Maybe Jack should stick to finding those kids in the Comet Pizza basement. Ukraine in NATO - is a key bargaining chip, and Biden is keeping it on the table. "The destablization is the goal" - what "destabilization?" Apparently Jack thinks an ongoing invasion and war is stable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillStime Posted July 13, 2023 Share Posted July 13, 2023 🎯 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy Callahan Posted July 13, 2023 Share Posted July 13, 2023 (edited) 39 minutes ago, BillStime said: 🎯 What town/city is that? interesting site. https://www.openmindsinstitute.org/reports By a guy that's focused on App Monetization.. https://adapty.io/blog/subhub-podcast-13-sviatoslav-hnizdovsky/ seems shady. Edited July 13, 2023 by Chris farley Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillStime Posted July 13, 2023 Share Posted July 13, 2023 14 minutes ago, Chris farley said: What town/city is that? interesting site. https://www.openmindsinstitute.org/reports By a guy that's focused on App Monetization.. https://adapty.io/blog/subhub-podcast-13-sviatoslav-hnizdovsky/ seems shady. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted July 13, 2023 Share Posted July 13, 2023 22 minutes ago, BillStime said: The once proud King of Memes and no longer King of the Board….incredibly sad. It’s like watching young, fit Elvis age into Fat Elvis. 😉 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted July 13, 2023 Share Posted July 13, 2023 1 hour ago, SoCal Deek said: The once proud King of Memes and no longer King of the Board….incredibly sad. It’s like watching young, fit Elvis age into Fat Elvis. 😉 "Once proud King of memes and the Board?" Continuing clown is more like it... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Coffeesforclosers Posted July 13, 2023 Share Posted July 13, 2023 (edited) 41 minutes ago, BuffaninSarasota said: "Any Ukraine Peace Talks Should be About the 'New World Order'-Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov Read about why Russia wants peace. I didn't see anything about sparing the lives of Ukrainian soldiers. Edited July 13, 2023 by Coffeesforclosers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Tiberius Posted July 14, 2023 Author Share Posted July 14, 2023 I hope this optimism proves well founded Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted July 14, 2023 Author Share Posted July 14, 2023 Should of had a proximity fuse on it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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The Frankish Reich Posted July 15, 2023 Share Posted July 15, 2023 2 minutes ago, B-Man said: Tom Cotton was considered presidential timber just a few short years ago. Now he's completely out of the mix. Why? He refused to go full Trump Mode and retained just a bit of common sense. Meanwhile, Elon: what do you propose we do? Just let Putin have Ukraine? Because that's "the outcome" if we do. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillStime Posted July 15, 2023 Share Posted July 15, 2023 I actually agree with Tom… …but not Elon - he’s just another Mother Tucker Putin stooge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted July 16, 2023 Author Share Posted July 16, 2023 The Republican nomination contest is accelerating, as is Ukraine’s counteroffensive, the latter underscoring the stakes of the former. During Spain’s civil war, a rebel general boasted that he had four columns marching on Madrid and “a fifth column” in Madrid, meaning supporters of the army’s insurgency. Vladimir Putin’s fifth column is not in Kyiv but in the Trump-DeSantis faction of the Republican Party. Putin has two hopes for a less than completely mortifying rescue from his Ukraine blunder. One is the election of Trump, whose frivolousness about national security complements his weakling’s admiration for a bully. Putin’s other hope is the election of DeSantis, who says (or said, before retreating when criticized) Russia’s attempt to erase a European nation is a “territorial dispute.” And whose pandering to Trumpkins prevents him from denouncing House Republicans who are as eager to abandon Ukraine as they would have been to abandon Czechoslovakia in 1938. https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2023/07/14/trump-desantis-not-inevitable/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
All_Pro_Bills Posted July 16, 2023 Share Posted July 16, 2023 1 hour ago, Tiberius said: The Republican nomination contest is accelerating, as is Ukraine’s counteroffensive, the latter underscoring the stakes of the former. During Spain’s civil war, a rebel general boasted that he had four columns marching on Madrid and “a fifth column” in Madrid, meaning supporters of the army’s insurgency. Vladimir Putin’s fifth column is not in Kyiv but in the Trump-DeSantis faction of the Republican Party. Putin has two hopes for a less than completely mortifying rescue from his Ukraine blunder. One is the election of Trump, whose frivolousness about national security complements his weakling’s admiration for a bully. Putin’s other hope is the election of DeSantis, who says (or said, before retreating when criticized) Russia’s attempt to erase a European nation is a “territorial dispute.” And whose pandering to Trumpkins prevents him from denouncing House Republicans who are as eager to abandon Ukraine as they would have been to abandon Czechoslovakia in 1938. https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2023/07/14/trump-desantis-not-inevitable/ Washington Post opinion section writers have no clue what Putin is thinking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted July 16, 2023 Share Posted July 16, 2023 18 minutes ago, All_Pro_Bills said: Washington Post opinion section writers have no clue what Putin is thinking. The WaPo has no clue in general. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sherpa Posted July 16, 2023 Share Posted July 16, 2023 I wonder if the author of that piece was as forthcoming on "abandonment," when the C-17 left Afghanistan with people hanging on the landing gear. Maybe there will be an opinion piece on the Biden Administration's oft repeated approach to "people paying their fair share" in federal income tax or gun control now that his kid is a known abuser and non law abider in both issues. 1 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted July 18, 2023 Share Posted July 18, 2023 US tax $$$$$ at work… 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted July 18, 2023 Share Posted July 18, 2023 They have the weapons, they lack the ability to use them effectively. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted July 18, 2023 Author Share Posted July 18, 2023 3 minutes ago, B-Man said: They have the weapons, they lack the ability to use them effectively. You want that democratic country murdered, don't you? You people are just disgusting 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy Callahan Posted July 18, 2023 Share Posted July 18, 2023 7 minutes ago, Tiberius said: You want that democratic country murdered, don't you? You people are just disgusting last I checked they got rid of elections. euro maiden wasn't exactly democratic either. your just upset your war machine stocks wont be profitable if they are not fighting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coffeesforclosers Posted July 19, 2023 Share Posted July 19, 2023 (edited) The EU is debating the creation of a fund that would bankroll Ukraine's Army for years. A very smart piece of diplomacy if it goes through. Edited July 19, 2023 by Coffeesforclosers 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Tommy Callahan Posted July 19, 2023 Share Posted July 19, 2023 11 hours ago, Coffeesforclosers said: The EU is debating the creation of a fund that would bankroll Ukraine's Army for years. A very smart peace of diplomacy if it goes through. The military industrial complex supports that. same with the ones invested in them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy Callahan Posted July 19, 2023 Share Posted July 19, 2023 3 minutes ago, Tiberius said: Do you know what a Kamikaze drone or cluster munitions do? Ukraine has 20K foreign volunteers fighting. wonder how many are russian https://nypost.com/2022/03/06/20k-foreign-volunteers-signed-up-to-fight-in-ukraine-officials/ https://www.armytimes.com/flashpoints/ukraine/2022/03/03/volunteer-fighters-arrive-in-ukraine-but-the-untrained-should-stay-home/ https://www.thelondoneconomic.com/news/world-news/breaking-how-to-join-the-ukrainian-army-fight-sign-up-314854/ Ukrainian Volunteer Army - Wikipedia - or maybe that group. they seem nice. Shoot. they will even take the war mongering keyboard warriors as volunteers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted July 19, 2023 Share Posted July 19, 2023 Is the small incursion over yet? Is this as long as it takes? Have we run out of other people’s money yet? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy Callahan Posted July 19, 2023 Share Posted July 19, 2023 1 minute ago, SoCal Deek said: Is the small incursion over yet? Is this as long as it takes? Have we run out of other people’s money yet? according to the links provided by the war hawks in here. the EU is looking to create a long-term fund for the Ukraine military. like wagging the dog, forever 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted July 19, 2023 Share Posted July 19, 2023 Just now, Chris farley said: according to the links provided by the war hawks in here. the EU is looking to create a long-term fund for the Ukraine military. like wagging the dog, forever It seems odd. Once Ukraine joins NATO then it would seem unnecessary…no? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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