FilthyBeast Posted December 1, 2021 Share Posted December 1, 2021 1 minute ago, teef said: many didn't believe the bills would win one playoff game last year, and here we are. you may not believe he can win a championship, but i bet the pegulas feel he can, which is what really matters. i'm also not of the impression of specific windows to win a superbowl. i get it, but as long as you have strong coaching and qb play, you're always in it. even if this year ends up being a total failure, i still don't think there will be questions about job security of anyone on this staff. there would be major concerns, but i don't think the seat is hot at all. Fair enough and you did hit the nail on the head....it's what the Pegulas think that ultimately matters not me or any other jo blow fan on here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan1959 Posted December 1, 2021 Share Posted December 1, 2021 2 minutes ago, FilthyBeast said: Yes because it's a results driven league and this franchise should be at the point where just making the playoff isn't good enough. And pretty sure the Pegulas would agree given Allens recent contract extension and believe that a SB window is now open. Obviously if he had a proven resume like Belichik, Tomlin, etc it wouldn't matter but getting to one AFC Championship game and winning a division title in a weird covid year when the Pats were in transition means absolutely nothing quite frankly. At the end of the day I'm happy that things have been different the last 4 years but it doesn't mean fans have to a blind loyalty to this regime for that. This might be one of your worst takes ever...and there is a lot of competition from almost every other post you have ever written 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malazan Posted December 1, 2021 Share Posted December 1, 2021 10 minutes ago, billsfan1959 said: The man has a .600 winning % with the Bills, .698 winning % over the last three years, three playoff appearances in the previous four seasons and you think he should be on the hot seat after this year? If you're a troll pretending to be a Bills fan then it makes sense. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jletha Posted December 1, 2021 Share Posted December 1, 2021 I think this just signals out bad our depth is. Any time we have an injury our performance stinks. Brown, Star, Edmunds, Knox. If 2 of them are out we have no way to compensate. But when healthy we can be best in the league. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FilthyBeast Posted December 1, 2021 Share Posted December 1, 2021 Just now, billsfan1959 said: This might be one of your worst takes ever...and there is a lot of competition from almost every other post you have ever written Obviously you can choose to disagree but again, I think you'll be surprised by the tone of Bills mafia during the offseason if this team continues on it's current path given the lofty expectations bestowed up on this team heading into 2021. And I'm also pretty sure that if the Pats win on MNF fans are going to finally tired of hearing the same platitudes over and over from McD/Allen/etc ...."We need to play better" ...."This isn't who we are"...etc. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyBatty is alive Posted December 1, 2021 Share Posted December 1, 2021 20 minutes ago, FilthyBeast said: I'm sure Bills mafia would be divided, but if the Bills don't make the playoffs period it's a very reasonable take because to go from an AFC championship game appearance to no playoffs the year has to be reflected somewhere whether on the GM, HC, etc. McDermott will not be on the hot seat this year, period. He has built up way too much goodwill. 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan1959 Posted December 1, 2021 Share Posted December 1, 2021 Just now, FilthyBeast said: Obviously you can choose to disagree but again, I think you'll be surprised by the tone of Bills mafia during the offseason if this team continues on it's current path given the lofty expectations bestowed up on this team heading into 2021. And I'm also pretty sure that if the Pats win on MNF fans are going to finally tired of hearing the same platitudes over and over from McD/Allen/etc ...."We need to play better" ...."This isn't who we are"...etc. You are the one that predicted that not only would the Bills lose to the Jets, but that the Bills would get blown out - and that the Bills might not win another game this year. So, I am wondering how you can believe that, and also believe the Bills should beat the Patriots? Which is it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigK14094 Posted December 1, 2021 Share Posted December 1, 2021 Congrats on putting together the analysis...but, I could see this team is up and down without the data here. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CSBill Posted December 1, 2021 Share Posted December 1, 2021 Yes, they've been inconsistent, maybe even borderline bi-polar disorder status, we all kind-of knew that. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rock-A-Bye Beasley Posted December 1, 2021 Share Posted December 1, 2021 What’s hilarious to me is everyone getting upset at someone suggesting McDermott would be on the “hot seat” if they don’t win a playoff game or miss the playoffs. Hot seat is a completely subjective term so what are y’all even arguing about? 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarleyNY Posted December 1, 2021 Share Posted December 1, 2021 I think our competition has had a lot to do with the variance. We’ve played some real trash teams/QBs and some really good ones with good game plans. Also with us really leaning into the focus on DL/pass rush on defense and the passing game on offense it makes sense that we’d see a higher variance due to certain match ups being either very favorable or very unfavorable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billsfan1972 Posted December 1, 2021 Share Posted December 1, 2021 2 hours ago, teef said: many didn't believe the bills would win one playoff game last year, and here we are. you may not believe he can win a championship, but i bet the pegulas feel he can, which is what really matters. i'm also not of the impression of specific windows to win a superbowl. i get it, but as long as you have strong coaching and qb play, you're always in it. even if this year ends up being a total failure, i still don't think there will be questions about job security of anyone on this staff. there would be major concerns, but i don't think the seat is hot at all. 13-3 and with home field and not win a playoff game...... No wonder you want to make the Bills underdogs Monday night......😜. Love excuses. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teef Posted December 1, 2021 Share Posted December 1, 2021 1 minute ago, Billsfan1972 said: 13-3 and with home field and not win a playoff game...... No wonder you want to make the Bills underdogs Monday night......😜. Love excuses. yes. also, when did i ever say i picked the bills to be the underdog.? i think the bills will win, but they have to play mistake free football. that being said, how could anyone be shocked if the pats won? they're playing more consistent football. so...excuses? excuses for what? what you quoted me on has absolutely nothing to do with your comments to me. you completely deserve how you're treated on this board. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billsfan1972 Posted December 1, 2021 Share Posted December 1, 2021 6 minutes ago, teef said: yes. also, when did i ever say i picked the bills to be the underdog.? i think the bills will win, but they have to play mistake free football. that being said, how could anyone be shocked if the pats won? they're playing more consistent football. so...excuses? excuses for what? what you quoted me on has absolutely nothing to do with your comments to me. you completely deserve how you're treated on this board. Hit a nerve? Being sarcastic and frankly tired of the doom and gloom. Maybe the Pats make mistakes. Bills sorry are a much better team imo and home Monday Night and sick of excuses. I think that if both teams are at their best the Bills win by 7, if NE is off Bills win by 20. Sorry I'm a homer and tired of Bills fans fretting and the team playing scared/passive..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo ill Posted December 1, 2021 Share Posted December 1, 2021 What is this DVDA you speak of 🤔 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Generic_Bills_Fan Posted December 1, 2021 Share Posted December 1, 2021 4 hours ago, atlbillsfan1975 said: For me, this is when you use statistics to look at each game to see what occurred. There is usually some concrete contributing factors to what causes the variance. Injuries, lack of performance by key players, breakdowns on plays at a critical point in the game...etc. The Bills can beat anyone in the NFL if both teams play their best game. Not many teams can say that. Consistently inconsistent…when we’re missing two starters on the offensive line our offense struggles. It ain’t rocket science haha we’re getting everyone back this week though if the pats still beat us up in the trenches then people can start eye roll emoji-ing the ‘we can beat anyone’ posts haha I think you got a premature eye roll reaction on this one 😂 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teef Posted December 1, 2021 Share Posted December 1, 2021 41 minutes ago, Billsfan1972 said: Hit a nerve? Being sarcastic and frankly tired of the doom and gloom. Maybe the Pats make mistakes. Bills sorry are a much better team imo and home Monday Night and sick of excuses. I think that if both teams are at their best the Bills win by 7, if NE is off Bills win by 20. Sorry I'm a homer and tired of Bills fans fretting and the team playing scared/passive..... i feel like you're setting us up for another i'm right thread. you've stated the bills are the better team and i agree. if the bills win, it's an, "i'm right" because you predicted a win. if the bills lose, it's an, "i'm right" because you said if they played scared, they'd lose. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billsfan1972 Posted December 1, 2021 Share Posted December 1, 2021 (edited) 16 minutes ago, teef said: i feel like you're setting us up for another i'm right thread. you've stated the bills are the better team and i agree. if the bills win, it's an, "i'm right" because you predicted a win. if the bills lose, it's an, "i'm right" because you said if they played scared, they'd lose. Tell you what..... I won't start a thread saying "So we beat NE on Monday night in a game we had to win..... Does that prove anything?" BTW I haven't started a single thread after a loss.....😜 However if the coaching sux Monday, I may need to chime in..... Edited December 1, 2021 by Billsfan1972 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted December 1, 2021 Share Posted December 1, 2021 4 hours ago, FilthyBeast said: This is the type of statistical data that's most concerning to me because if anything it supports the theory that the Bills will be one and done in the playoffs if they even get there. Just mind boggling that they can come out and crush a poor team like the Jets one week, then lose to another like the Jags or Steelers the next but this is still part of a bigger picture and reflection of poor coaching IMO and why it's not too soon to put McDermott on the hot seat after this season is over. I agree with the first statement. I strongly disagree with the latter statement. The team we have lost to having something in common - they have exposed our weakness up front. That is on personnel more than coaching. I think that still ultimately lands on McDermott, but I still think he is an excellent coach and there is no way I am putting him on any kind of hotseat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teef Posted December 1, 2021 Share Posted December 1, 2021 15 minutes ago, Billsfan1972 said: Tell you what..... I won't start a thread saying "So we beat NE on Monday night in a game we had to win..... Does that prove anything?" BTW I haven't started a single thread after a loss.....😜 However if the coaching sux Monday, I may need to chime in..... i think that's fair. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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