Week 10: Bills at Jets

[newcam2012]

5 hours ago, Stank_Nasty said:

Wait… so last in the league in yards allowed and points allowed equates to “solid”…. Huh, how about that. 

True but stats aren't the only variable in the equation. If we only relied on stats the Bills would have blown out the hapless Jags.  However, the original poster saying the Jets D is tough doesn't portray an an accurate picture. The real question is will they be tough this Sunday?

4 hours ago, Xwnyer said:

Just being honest. Until this offense can figure out cover 2 and protect the QB we will struggle

Agree 100%. I'd add in having a semblance of a running attack too.

[newcam2012]

3 hours ago, YoloinOhio said:

Then just say you don’t think Josh Allen and the Bills OL are good enough to beat the league’s worst defense, but that Mike White and the Jets offense are good enough to beat the league’s best defense. At least it’s an opinion based on the reality of the game elements.

After the Jags game I'm not so sure what to think. I'm still trying to shake the cob webs and gather my thoughts. 

[Xwnyer]

4 hours ago, newcam2012 said:

After the Jags game I'm not so sure what to think. I'm still trying to shake the cob webs and gather my thoughts. 

The Jags are bad, missing players on defense due to injury and the Bills couldn’t move the ball.  Maybe it was just a really really bad day for  Josh but he seems to be locking in on a target and not scanning field.  Sure when you are being pressured hard to scan field but last play is a perfect example looks like sanders is open for what would be a first down and he tries to throw across body to get it to Diggs who will have to make a major play to get the first down.    We should beat the Jets but they did beat the Titans and after Jags game My confidence in winning any game doesn’t exist right now.  

[CSBill]

Okay, the lamenting is over, time to move on to solutions and forward momentum. Thus, my offensive line changes this week:

 

LT - Dawkins, LG - Douglas or Bates (both will get snaps, and the best man wins), C - Morse, RG - Williams, RT - Brown

 

And with Moss out, Breida gets a chance to earn his pay check this week.

[YoloinOhio]

7 hours ago, 97bills said:

We’re was the jags defense rank, there overall defense don’t have to be good just there front 4 that line we put on the field last Sunday is terrible 

Doesnt matter where the jags defense ranked. As i said, It’s fine to have the opinion they won’t beat a bad defense. Thinking they won’t beat them because their defense is “solid” is simply uninformed.

[Cygnus99]

I can  see the Bills losing 4 in a row and expecting a big blow out by Tampa making it 5 in a row but big Surprise Bills snap a 4 game losing streak by beating Tampa 

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[newcam2012]

1 hour ago, Xwnyer said:

The Jags are bad, missing players on defense due to injury and the Bills couldn’t move the ball.  Maybe it was just a really really bad day for  Josh but he seems to be locking in on a target and not scanning field.  Sure when you are being pressured hard to scan field but last play is a perfect example looks like sanders is open for what would be a first down and he tries to throw across body to get it to Diggs who will have to make a major play to get the first down.    We should beat the Jets but they did beat the Titans and after Jags game My confidence in winning any game doesn’t exist right now.  

Definitely wasn't a good day for Allen. I didn't really see him locking into one wide receiver. In fact, he checked down a lot because the initial and or primary receivers were covered. The pressure he faced was pretty much a recipe for failure. The Bills need to have a running threat and implement plays that are deaigned to beat cover 2. For example, slants and gos down the middle of the field. Teams will continue to use the Titan and Jag strategy to beat the Bills. 

[Greg S]

12 hours ago, Xwnyer said:

I am seeing another loss to an inferior team. They have a solid d and will give a Josh and online fits

 D-line is solid but the secondary is garbage. Did you not see what the Colts did to them last week? To me this game comes down to the Bills OL and can they play respectable. I don't expect them to play good but just give Josh some time to throw and he will destroy the Jets secondary. I expect the Bills D to handle the Jets O although White will probably lead them on some nice drives. Don't expect the Bills D to hold them to 9 points. Bottom line if the Bills O-line does OK the Bills will win. IMHO.

[Miyagi-Do Karate]

1 minute ago, Greg S said:

 D-line is solid but the secondary is garbage. Did you not see what the Colts did to them last week? To me this game comes down to the Bills OL and can they play respectable. I don't expect them to play good but just give Josh some time to throw and he will destroy the Jets secondary. I expect the Bills D to handle the Jets O although White will probably lead them on some nice drives. Don't expect the Bills D to hold them to 9 points. Bottom line if the Bills O-line does OK the Bills will win. IMHO.

“D-line is solid and secondary is garbage” was the report on the Jags too. 

[Greg S]

1 minute ago, Miyagi-Do Karate said:

“D-line is solid and secondary is garbage” was the report on the Jags too. 

 

I am expecting the Bills offense to have a better day. Last week was just garbage offensively all around. If we can't beat the Jets then you really have to question just how good is this team. I don't know if the Bills took the Jags lightly like some of their players said but I expect that won't be the case this week.

[finn]

4 minutes ago, Miyagi-Do Karate said:

“D-line is solid and secondary is garbage” was the report on the Jags too. 

And on the Titans. 

[RobbRiddick]

I haven't looked through the thread. Do we know if Brown and Knox will be back this week? 

 

Just looked, seems they're back at practice today

Edited November 10, 2021 by RobbRiddick

[eball]

Just now, RobbRiddick said:

I haven't looked through the thread. Do we know if Brown and Knox will be back this week? 

 

Last we heard from McD is that he expects both back at practice…should know more later today.

[Greg S]

2 minutes ago, finn said:

And on the Titans. 

Titans are a good team though and the Bills did put 31 on them. 

[RobbRiddick]

I think if Brown is back against the Jets he'll play like a man possessed

[eball]

2 hours ago, Xwnyer said:

The Jags are bad, missing players on defense due to injury and the Bills couldn’t move the ball.

 

This is a completely inaccurate statement.  The Bills moved into Jacksonville territory on all but two of their possessions and I don’t recall even one 3-and-out.  They were befuddled by penalties and lack of execution at inopportune moments.  It was ugly, but they were still well over 300 yards in offense.

 

The “I have no confidence the Bills will win another game” stuff is freaking hilarious.  Vegas still thinks they are the Super Bowl favorite.

 

We can admit and talk about flaws they have, but folks have gone completely overboard.

 

Fans crack me up.

 

 

Edited November 10, 2021 by eball

[atlbillsfan1975]

18 minutes ago, Greg S said:

 D-line is solid but the secondary is garbage. Did you not see what the Colts did to them last week? To me this game comes down to the Bills OL and can they play respectable. I don't expect them to play good but just give Josh some time to throw and he will destroy the Jets secondary. I expect the Bills D to handle the Jets O although White will probably lead them on some nice drives. Don't expect the Bills D to hold them to 9 points. Bottom line if the Bills O-line does OK the Bills will win. IMHO.

I’m not saying the Jets have a good D or predicting a loss for the Bills, but you described the Jax D when you wrote “D-line is solid but the secondary is garbage”. 
I think there were a ton of factors that went into the Bills poor offensive performance on Sunday In Jacksonville. 2 of the 3 losses this year have been due to a poor performance by the O. Both those losses came against teams with solid d lines, Pitt had a great dline that game. 
We have heard for 3 years that Daboll is good at scheming to his opponent, time to see it this weekend against the Jets. I have a feeling they will try to do what Miami and Jax did. 
There are reasons to be optimistic, I think if Breda is active and they use him right, he can help break up the cover 2 deep shell Jax and Miami used. Breda catching those same passes Singletary did, might turn into a couple of big YAC gains. Knox will also help in the dump off game. Sweeney isn’t in the same ball park as Knox. 

Edited November 10, 2021 by atlbillsfan1975

[Son of a K-Gun]

13 minutes ago, Greg S said:

 D-line is solid but the secondary is garbage. Did you not see what the Colts did to them last week? To me this game comes down to the Bills OL and can they play respectable. I don't expect them to play good but just give Josh some time to throw and he will destroy the Jets secondary. I expect the Bills D to handle the Jets O although White will probably lead them on some nice drives. Don't expect the Bills D to hold them to 9 points. Bottom line if the Bills O-line does OK the Bills will win. IMHO.

 

Every Bills game comes down to the Bills OL and can they play respectable.  That's really about it.  If the OL plays respectable, the Bills beat, or at least have a great shot at beating any team in the league.  There isn't another weakness on this team that is significant enough to make a difference outside of fluke plays like a blocked punt or a QB slipping on 4th down.  

 

Everyone just needs to take a collective breath and realize how good this team is.  Good teams lose games to bad teams, it happens.  Breathe in, breathe out, move on.

[ScottLaw]

5 minutes ago, eball said:

 

This is a completely inaccurate statement.  The Bills moved into Jacksonville territory on all but two of their possessions and I don’t recall even one 3-and-out.  They were befuddled by penalties and lack of execution at inopportune moments.  It was ugly, but they were still well over 300 yards in offense.

 

The “I have no confidence the Bills will win another game” stuff is freaking hilarious.  Vegas still thinks they are the Super Bowl favorite.

 

We can admit and talk about flaws they have, but folks have gone completely overboard.

 

Fans crack me up.

 

 

The lack of execution at in opportune times was due to their sloppy as ***** offensive line….. I know Daboll was the hot commodity for a HC spot entering the year but I’d go else where if I’m an organization looking for a HC. 

[Greg S]

2 minutes ago, atlbillsfan1975 said:

I’m not saying the Jets have a good D or predicting a loss for the Bills, but you described the Jax D when you wrote “D-line is solid but the secondary is garbage”. 
I think there were a ton of factors that went into the Bills poor offensive performance. 2 of the 3 losses were due to a poor performance by the O. Both those losses came against teams with solid d lines, Pitt had a great dline that game. 
We have heard for 3 years that Daboll is good at scheming to his opponent, time to see it this weekend against the Jets. I have a feeling they will try to do what Miami and Jax did. 

 

They absolutely will. Every team is going to look at what the Fins and Jags did to stop the Bills. Hopefully the Bills have answers. Getting healthy players back especially on the OL is a start.