Dan Darragh Posted October 4, 2021 Share Posted October 4, 2021 10 hours ago, Zerovoltz said: Here is what the Bills can expect VS the Chiefs. Let me give a little perspective on KC's 2-2 season to date. KC has been BAD on defense. I'll get to that. The important part to know is that KC's two losses were by a combined 7 points and while having a -7 TO ratio. Both games were winnable to the end. Both games would have been W's without the TO's. That said, KC is a handful of plays either way where they could be 0-4 or 4-0. Keep that in mind as I break this down. On offense, KC is a little bit a different team this year. The new line, especially the G-C-G combo has been effective at getting a push in the run game. This has allowed KC to be more efficient at 3rd down and has caused teams to pay attention to the run, or not, at their peril. KC has been able to get yards on the ground at a better rate this year. So far teams have NOT committed anything to stopping the run and instead we've seen teams continue to play a deep shell type D that aims to take away Hill or Kelce or both by bracketing them.. KC is a team used to big chunk plays on offense, but in the past couple weeks, KC has just taken what teams have given with tons of underneath stuff and allowing runs. KC has been patient enough the last 2 games to just take what the defenses ahve been giving. KC had SEVERAL long drives VS the Chargers doing this, but kept turning the ball over deep in Charger terriroty, leaving several points on the board. It was the same today VS the Eagles....several long TD drives just taking the short stuff they were giving up...and run run run...all the way to the end zone. It's not exactly what were are used to seeing. KC is still scoring at a high rate..and unless stopped by a turnover, they aren't getting stopped. KC has barely punted all season, and didn't punt at all VS the Eagles. KC has shown some pass blocking problems...especially form the 2 tackles...they can be beaten....the difference from last year is the G-C-G has been quite effective and Mahomes has been good at just stepping up into the pocket when the Tackles get beaten or ride the rushers wide and around to the rear. the G-C-G while solid, can struggle a play or 2 during the game when a stunt isn't passed off or handled correctly. Genrerally theyv'e done well but room to improve there. In the Run game, the line is getting good push and making sizable holes even. I will tell you that CEH (our lead back) isn't very dynamic. He gets good yardage when a hole is open, but nothing more than that...he doesn't make people miss and he tends to go down on first contact. The passing game is pretty much what you'd expect. A steady dose of Hill and Kelce...along with some jet sweeps and WR screen to Hardman. KC's offense has only been stopped by KC itself whenever it turns the ball over. Otherwise..playing shell hasn't done anything but make KC run more plays. Over 30 first downs a game last couple. If the Bills D can get a stop or 2, it would go a long way to winning the game.... KC's D has been BAD. It isn't fast, it doesn't rush the passer well, and it also can't stop the run with hit's undersized interior lineman and slow LB's. The corners aren't very good either...not as good as what we run out last year. Some of you might remember my analysis of last years AFCCG where I informed you that Kc's secondary was top 3 VS wideouts in the NFL last year....and why that wasn't good for the Bills. That played out in the game. This year is NOT the same. KC doesn't have Breeland, I also beleive honey badger has lost half a step. The others defenders just aren't as good...the Bills wideouts should have an easier time of it compared to last year. KC has been running out Hitchens Nieman and Bolton at LB. Hitchens is slow and way overpaid. Nieman shouldn't be on an NFL roster, let alone a practice squad. Bolton (rookie 2nd rounder) has been good, but he isn't great in coverage yet. Hitchens and Nieman are easy targets in the run and pass game. Often getting swallowed up by O lineman, and slow to get to a spot in the run game...and slow in coverage as well. One improvement Kc may make VS the Bills is LB Willie Gay should be back...if so, he offers A TON more spead and coverage abilty and potentially makes this AWFUL D, slighly less awful. On the Dline, KC has moved Chris Jones to DE. This has not worked out well. He's not been very effective as a pass rusher out there...can't set an edge in the run game iether. The guys KC starts/rotates in at DT are LIGHT. And for being light dudes, they also dont' rush the passer well. They get ROLLED OVER in the run game easily. So, KC's line is both small, AND ineffecitve at rushing the passer...it SUCKS. As a diehard, Chiefs fan....I do not expect my beloved Chiefs to win this game. I see Buffalo as the better team overall, with a QB that negates KC's normal advantage at QB in most games. Not this one. Allen is the man. I can't see the KC defense forcing so much as 1 punt for the upcoming game....KC will hope for a mistake/turnover or 2 because we aren't stopping you guys without that. If the Bills do not make an error, they should win the game. It may be that you get one or two stops and that's ball game. KC would need to be turnover free and proably not have to punt to be the winner. That's alot ot ask for. Hate to say it, but I think this is a Bills win....it's there for the taking. I don't htink this is a question of KC stopping you guys...but for your team to just have it in their heads they they can win this game and then go and do it. I hope KC takes it, but frankly, this is the Bills game to take if they can play their A game. GO CHIEFS! He's trying to Reverse Jinx us 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan130 Posted October 4, 2021 Share Posted October 4, 2021 I can't pick the bills against the chiefs until they actually show me they can do it. Logically what you're saying all makes sense. But going to arrowhead on a Sunday night game is going to be an extremely tough assignment for the Bills. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teef Posted October 4, 2021 Share Posted October 4, 2021 the biggest issue going into sunday is that the game with interfere with my bedtime. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan130 Posted October 4, 2021 Share Posted October 4, 2021 1 minute ago, teef said: the biggest issue going into sunday is that the game with interfere with my bedtime. Thanksgiving here in Canada this weekend, us Canadians lucked out on this one. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teef Posted October 4, 2021 Share Posted October 4, 2021 2 minutes ago, BillsFan130 said: Thanksgiving here in Canada this weekend, us Canadians lucked out on this one. that works out perfectly. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMF2006 Posted October 4, 2021 Share Posted October 4, 2021 I hope this is a slobber knocker of a game that will be talked about for the rest of the year as an example of how football should be played. May the best team win on the last possession of the game of the year Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan130 Posted October 4, 2021 Share Posted October 4, 2021 7 minutes ago, teef said: that works out perfectly. You guys get payback on us when the Bills are in New Orleans on America's thanksgiving haha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMF2006 Posted October 4, 2021 Share Posted October 4, 2021 11 minutes ago, BillsFan130 said: Thanksgiving here in Canada this weekend, us Canadians lucked out on this one. I remember we played at home for years on this weekend and it was such a PITA crossing with the all the traffic. 2 minutes ago, BillsFan130 said: You guys get payback on us when the Bills are in New Orleans on America's thanksgiving haha I requested and got that day off 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearNorth Posted October 4, 2021 Share Posted October 4, 2021 Arrowhead is a home game for Spencer Brown, grew up 2.5 hours from the stadium. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CNYfan Posted October 4, 2021 Share Posted October 4, 2021 1 hour ago, HamSandwhich said: Spencer Brown? Thanks. Edit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed_Formerly_of_Roch Posted October 4, 2021 Share Posted October 4, 2021 What worries me the most is Allen coming out all hyped up as he sometimes does and missing on a bunch of passes, kind of like the Pitt game. Hopefully someone will steady him. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted October 4, 2021 Share Posted October 4, 2021 27 minutes ago, teef said: the biggest issue going into sunday is that the game with interfere with my bedtime. I have had to book Monday next week and Tuesday the following week off. Over here in the UK I am good with the Bills kicking off at 1pm your time every week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thurman#1 Posted October 4, 2021 Share Posted October 4, 2021 1 hour ago, BTB said: Of course he is trolling…he is just very subtle about it. He will say otherwise, but who goes on another teams boards to do anything but troll. Many people. That's the answer to that. Zero handles himself well consistently. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsShredder83 Posted October 4, 2021 Share Posted October 4, 2021 10 hours ago, Zerovoltz said: On the Dline, KC has moved Chris Jones to DE. This has not worked out well. He's not been very effective as a pass rusher out there...can't set an edge in the run game iether. Hey brother, i knew there was a reason i liked having you around here, despite my knuckle dragging brethren, great post. Interested in this quote here. Any chance they kick him back inside? Dude was a wrecking ball up the middle, why fix what wasnt broke? Im nervous about this game despite the tough close endings ive seen in yalls last 2 games. Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted October 4, 2021 Share Posted October 4, 2021 One positive is that Allen has performed pretty well in Primetime Sunday night games. 11 hours ago, Zerovoltz said: Here is what the Bills can expect VS the Chiefs. Let me give a little perspective on KC's 2-2 season to date. KC has been BAD on defense. I'll get to that. The important part to know is that KC's two losses were by a combined 7 points and while having a -7 TO ratio. Both games were winnable to the end. Both games would have been W's without the TO's. That said, KC is a handful of plays either way where they could be 0-4 or 4-0. Keep that in mind as I break this down. On offense, KC is a little bit a different team this year. The new line, especially the G-C-G combo has been effective at getting a push in the run game. This has allowed KC to be more efficient at 3rd down and has caused teams to pay attention to the run, or not, at their peril. KC has been able to get yards on the ground at a better rate this year. So far teams have NOT committed anything to stopping the run and instead we've seen teams continue to play a deep shell type D that aims to take away Hill or Kelce or both by bracketing them.. KC is a team used to big chunk plays on offense, but in the past couple weeks, KC has just taken what teams have given with tons of underneath stuff and allowing runs. KC has been patient enough the last 2 games to just take what the defenses ahve been giving. KC had SEVERAL long drives VS the Chargers doing this, but kept turning the ball over deep in Charger terriroty, leaving several points on the board. It was the same today VS the Eagles....several long TD drives just taking the short stuff they were giving up...and run run run...all the way to the end zone. It's not exactly what were are used to seeing. KC is still scoring at a high rate..and unless stopped by a turnover, they aren't getting stopped. KC has barely punted all season, and didn't punt at all VS the Eagles. KC has shown some pass blocking problems...especially form the 2 tackles...they can be beaten....the difference from last year is the G-C-G has been quite effective and Mahomes has been good at just stepping up into the pocket when the Tackles get beaten or ride the rushers wide and around to the rear. the G-C-G while solid, can struggle a play or 2 during the game when a stunt isn't passed off or handled correctly. Genrerally theyv'e done well but room to improve there. In the Run game, the line is getting good push and making sizable holes even. I will tell you that CEH (our lead back) isn't very dynamic. He gets good yardage when a hole is open, but nothing more than that...he doesn't make people miss and he tends to go down on first contact. The passing game is pretty much what you'd expect. A steady dose of Hill and Kelce...along with some jet sweeps and WR screen to Hardman. KC's offense has only been stopped by KC itself whenever it turns the ball over. Otherwise..playing shell hasn't done anything but make KC run more plays. Over 30 first downs a game last couple. If the Bills D can get a stop or 2, it would go a long way to winning the game.... KC's D has been BAD. It isn't fast, it doesn't rush the passer well, and it also can't stop the run with hit's undersized interior lineman and slow LB's. The corners aren't very good either...not as good as what we run out last year. Some of you might remember my analysis of last years AFCCG where I informed you that Kc's secondary was top 3 VS wideouts in the NFL last year....and why that wasn't good for the Bills. That played out in the game. This year is NOT the same. KC doesn't have Breeland, I also beleive honey badger has lost half a step. The others defenders just aren't as good...the Bills wideouts should have an easier time of it compared to last year. KC has been running out Hitchens Nieman and Bolton at LB. Hitchens is slow and way overpaid. Nieman shouldn't be on an NFL roster, let alone a practice squad. Bolton (rookie 2nd rounder) has been good, but he isn't great in coverage yet. Hitchens and Nieman are easy targets in the run and pass game. Often getting swallowed up by O lineman, and slow to get to a spot in the run game...and slow in coverage as well. One improvement Kc may make VS the Bills is LB Willie Gay should be back...if so, he offers A TON more spead and coverage abilty and potentially makes this AWFUL D, slighly less awful. On the Dline, KC has moved Chris Jones to DE. This has not worked out well. He's not been very effective as a pass rusher out there...can't set an edge in the run game iether. The guys KC starts/rotates in at DT are LIGHT. And for being light dudes, they also dont' rush the passer well. They get ROLLED OVER in the run game easily. So, KC's line is both small, AND ineffecitve at rushing the passer...it SUCKS. As a diehard, Chiefs fan....I do not expect my beloved Chiefs to win this game. I see Buffalo as the better team overall, with a QB that negates KC's normal advantage at QB in most games. Not this one. Allen is the man. I can't see the KC defense forcing so much as 1 punt for the upcoming game....KC will hope for a mistake/turnover or 2 because we aren't stopping you guys without that. If the Bills do not make an error, they should win the game. It may be that you get one or two stops and that's ball game. KC would need to be turnover free and proably not have to punt to be the winner. That's alot ot ask for. Hate to say it, but I think this is a Bills win....it's there for the taking. I don't htink this is a question of KC stopping you guys...but for your team to just have it in their heads they they can win this game and then go and do it. I hope KC takes it, but frankly, this is the Bills game to take if they can play their A game. GO CHIEFS! From the game yesterday it looked like the Chiefs were very undisciplined against the read option and crashed down hard instead of playing their assignments leading to some easy gains and at least one TD by the Eagles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Southern_Bills Posted October 4, 2021 Share Posted October 4, 2021 I think its too early in the season to really know. Too many times I've seen teams struggle the first 4 games (good teams I should add) and they get against known good competition and the light flips on. I'm expecting a dog fight with no real hope of picking a winner. It may as well be game 1 for for Buffalo and KC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ralonzo Posted October 4, 2021 Share Posted October 4, 2021 9 hours ago, John from Riverside said: No different than any other time to be the man you got a beat the man bills have to be at their best have to figure out the common problems mahommes And his insane good offense threats Beat me to it 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan130 Posted October 4, 2021 Share Posted October 4, 2021 39 minutes ago, JMF2006 said: I remember we played at home for years on this weekend and it was such a PITA crossing with the all the traffic. I requested and got that day off Haha that's awesome! Smart man Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted October 4, 2021 Share Posted October 4, 2021 56 minutes ago, teef said: the biggest issue going into sunday is that the game with interfere with my bedtime. You should take a nap from 5:00 pm until 8:24 pm. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMF2006 Posted October 4, 2021 Share Posted October 4, 2021 4 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said: You should take a nap from 5:00 pm until 8:24 pm. If I ever did that I would be up all night Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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