TBBills Posted September 24, 2021 Share Posted September 24, 2021 (edited) Patriots... Steamrolling the Dolphins makes me happy b.c they are the comedy I get twice a year knowing they can't handle this team. Jets are just a bag of shame we have to battle with for some reason even though they always suck. The "Goat" coach is still around and people still cling onto them. They talk highly of a QB who has the second lowest YPA passing... We have all seen those types of players. Edited September 24, 2021 by TBBills 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Duffy Posted September 24, 2021 Share Posted September 24, 2021 21 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: I hate everything about them. The fans. The uniforms. The TO and McNabb drama. The succession of utterly dislikeable players and coaches. I would never tire of seeing them beaten up and down the field every week. I get the fans are just awful....I don't care for them either, but just seems a little odd a Bills fans hating a team outside the division and conference more than a division rival. I hate the Cowboys a whole hell of alot, but not as much as I hate the Pats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nextmanup Posted September 24, 2021 Share Posted September 24, 2021 It's definitely still the Patriots at No. 1 on the list. I genuinely have no ill will for the Jets at all! They have been a mess for so long there is just nothing there to dislike, well, except their fans of course! LOL I really have no bad feelings for Miami either at this point in time. That rivalry ended decades ago IMO. I hope we can build a good 2-way rivalry with the Chiefs! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted September 24, 2021 Share Posted September 24, 2021 (edited) 8 hours ago, Royale with Cheese said: Since Brady has left the Pats, I don't have the same hate towards them. I just never liked the Jets. I don't like their fans. I'm glad Darnold is playing well and Zach Wilson still thinking it's training camp. However, I don't want them to suck. I want them to be like 6-11every year so that won't get that top pick for another top QB. The key word in the title is “now”. If you asked me in 1980 I would 100% have said the Dolphins. I think most people will answer based upon how the last decade or so has gone. 5 minutes ago, Nextmanup said: It's definitely still the Patriots at No. 1 on the list. I genuinely have no ill will for the Jets at all! They have been a mess for so long there is just nothing there to dislike, well, except their fans of course! LOL I really have no bad feelings for Miami either at this point in time. That rivalry ended decades ago IMO. I hope we can build a good 2-way rivalry with the Chiefs! So far that feels like the rivalry between the hammer and the nail. That’s gotta change soon!!! PLEASE!!! . Edited September 24, 2021 by Augie 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted September 24, 2021 Share Posted September 24, 2021 32 minutes ago, Sheneneh Jenkins said: I get the fans are just awful....I don't care for them either, but just seems a little odd a Bills fans hating a team outside the division and conference more than a division rival. I hate the Cowboys a whole hell of alot, but not as much as I hate the Pats. I didn't grow up watching the sport which I think makes a difference. As someone living outside the US who started watching at 18 I didn't have the same preconceptions about who I should and shouldn't hate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orlando Tim Posted September 24, 2021 Share Posted September 24, 2021 How anyone picks a team besides the Pats* is beyond me, unless it is real personal. The Pats* cheating is part of the reason we had the 17 year drought. I was at game when Bryan Cox came out with the double bird but that was theatrics, the Pats* are what makes sports unwatchable Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1ManRaid Posted September 24, 2021 Share Posted September 24, 2021 (edited) Just in terms of personal interactions with fans, Miami is edging into the lead. Jets and Pats fans have toned down their acts lately, with Dolphins fans becoming more insufferable since drafting Tua. I know a lot of it is just trolling, but the laundry list of excuses as to why they still own us despite them losing 6 straight by an average of 20 points, paired with their constant cliche comebacks of "durr, you lost 4 SBs" is just annoying. Steelers fans are still the worst though. They'll crap on charity work from Bills players just to start crap with Bills fans. Bandwagon Chiefs fans in my town are getting up there too with their unsolicited smack talk of the Bills/Josh Allen (prompted solely by noticing I am wearing a Bills hat), which they present as simple fact even if they are misinformed and wrong. I give them a very slight pass as bandwagon fans can't actually be expected to really understand football. Edited September 24, 2021 by 1ManRaid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nester Posted September 24, 2021 Share Posted September 24, 2021 Nothing changed lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan130 Posted September 24, 2021 Share Posted September 24, 2021 9 hours ago, Ridgewaycynic2013 said: Patriots: Mr. Lahey Miami: Cyrus N.Y. Jets: Randy LOL love the TPB reference 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffalo2218 Posted September 25, 2021 Share Posted September 25, 2021 (edited) If you had asked this question before the season started, I'm not sure which one I'd have picked. Right now, my feeling isn't much different. As far as I'm concerned, my hatred level of our rival teams isn't really hatred. Don't get me wrong, I still want to see all 3 other teams lose every week. I'm seeing a lot of our fans start to take pity on our rivals being the Jets and Dolphins, and when Bellichek retires, the Pats will join both of the other 2. My hated right now toward any team is and always will be the Titans. If the day ever comes the Titans get sold, I swear, I will drive a wrecking ball crane free of charge and just obliterate that stadium. I may even plant a trust the process flag on top of the rubble Edited September 25, 2021 by buffalo2218 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost_002! Posted September 25, 2021 Share Posted September 25, 2021 1 hour ago, Buffalo Timmy said: How anyone picks a team besides the Pats* is beyond me, unless it is real personal. The Pats* cheating is part of the reason we had the 17 year drought. I was at game when Bryan Cox came out with the double bird but that was theatrics, the Pats* are what makes sports unwatchable No it wasn't. No evidence of that. Not even on those destroyed tapes. The main reason for the Bills 20 year drought was the front office fail to build a team to compete. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Duffy Posted September 25, 2021 Share Posted September 25, 2021 1 hour ago, Buffalo Timmy said: How anyone picks a team besides the Pats* is beyond me, unless it is real personal. The Pats* cheating is part of the reason we had the 17 year drought. I was at game when Bryan Cox came out with the double bird but that was theatrics, the Pats* are what makes sports unwatchable 9 minutes ago, Ghost_002! said: No it wasn't. No evidence of that. Not even on those destroyed tapes. The main reason for the Bills 20 year drought was the front office fail to build a team to compete. I agree with you the "misinterpretation of the rules" and other issues played no part in being reason for Bills 17 yr drought. It was the way the team was being ran along with bad coaches, bad players etc. Pats were just good, Brady being main reason. Never understood why they did those things. I mean they were good enough that they didn't even need to do any of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocky Landing Posted September 25, 2021 Share Posted September 25, 2021 20 minutes ago, Ghost_002! said: No it wasn't. No evidence of that. Not even on those destroyed tapes. The main reason for the Bills 20 year drought was the front office fail to build a team to compete. The Pats* cheating was one reason they were so dominant, just like Tom Brady*'s deflated balls were one reason for his dominance. It more likely kept the Jets out of the playoffs than the Bills. But having a dominant team in your division that cheated so egregiously that they had an entire room devoted to one aspect of their cheating that they tried to hide upon inspection, and then destroyed what was likely criminal evidence, is a damned good reason to hate the franchise, and those that run it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Otreply Posted September 25, 2021 Share Posted September 25, 2021 14 minutes ago, Ghost_002! said: No it wasn't. No evidence of that. Not even on those destroyed tapes. The main reason for the Bills 20 year drought was the front office fail to build a team to compete. Oh please, like you have any idea what was on those tapes. Those tapes were so incriminating that the Comish had to destroy them before a US senator who was investigating could see them, so just take your ill informed self down to the pub for a spritzer, absolutely nothing honorable within the entire pats organization. Those that defend that team are just the worst, And yes the Bills were their own worst enemy for a long time, but we are talking about the most infamous cheating team in the entire history of pro football. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost_002! Posted September 25, 2021 Share Posted September 25, 2021 (edited) 45 minutes ago, Don Otreply said: Oh please, like you have any idea what was on those tapes. Those tapes were so incriminating that the Comish had to destroy them before a US senator who was investigating could see them, so just take your ill informed self down to the pub for a spritzer, absolutely nothing honorable within the entire pats organization. Those that defend that team are just the worst, And yes the Bills were their own worst enemy for a long time, but we are talking about the most infamous cheating team in the entire history of pro football. Think about it, I know it maybe hard for you to do, but exactly how "incriminating" were those tapes. Since 07 there has been no ex-employee from the pats or the NFL itself to come out and say there was actually harder evidence on those tapes implicating the patriots to so much more (not even a very good, very detailed oriented new reporter). You really think R. Goodell & the NFL...the same NFL that can't even get the COVID rules correctly, was able to cover up "the real truth of spygate" to everyone including US government?? haha sureeee...i bet i can convince you i seen bigfoot in my back yard. and don't get it twisted it. They are definitely guilty of spygate, but it's not as bad as hurt fans make it out to be. They proved it in 07 how much "spygate" didnt affect how they win games. Edited September 25, 2021 by Ghost_002! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldmanfan Posted September 25, 2021 Share Posted September 25, 2021 For anyone who was a fan back in the 70’s it will forever be the Fish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost_002! Posted September 25, 2021 Share Posted September 25, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, Rocky Landing said: The Pats* cheating was one reason they were so dominant, just like Tom Brady*'s deflated balls were one reason for his dominance. It more likely kept the Jets out of the playoffs than the Bills. But having a dominant team in your division that cheated so egregiously that they had an entire room devoted to one aspect of their cheating that they tried to hide upon inspection, and then destroyed what was likely criminal evidence, is a damned good reason to hate the franchise, and those that run it. haha to keep the jets out the playoffs?? the Jets?? The jets nor your bills were rarely ever good teams during the pats 20 year run. The deflated balls wasn't much either especially since plenty QBs came out and said they inflated and deflated their footballs a certain ways all the time. A.Rodgers was one of the QBs who said he adjusts the balls to his liking. Please stop making this thing out to be "water gate" it was never that serious. Oh yea and i am wondering, how is your petition working to stop BB and the pats from benefitting from all their success? Got like 20 signatures at least yet? Edited September 25, 2021 by Ghost_002! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orlando Tim Posted September 25, 2021 Share Posted September 25, 2021 1 hour ago, Ghost_002! said: No it wasn't. No evidence of that. Not even on those destroyed tapes. The main reason for the Bills 20 year drought was the front office fail to build a team to compete. I am not delusional in believe that we were well run but their dominance of the division made it difficult to get free agents and they had a 9 year time frame without a super bowl after they were cheating the first time. Please don't pretend their dominance was not a factor in our inability to be a decent team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Straight Hucklebuck Posted September 25, 2021 Share Posted September 25, 2021 It’s time for the fans in New England to suffer in QB purgatory for a long time. Have a team that’s 7-10, 8-9, 9-8 year after year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost_002! Posted September 25, 2021 Share Posted September 25, 2021 (edited) 24 minutes ago, Buffalo Timmy said: I am not delusional in believe that we were well run but their dominance of the division made it difficult to get free agents and they had a 9 year time frame without a super bowl after they were cheating the first time. Please don't pretend their dominance was not a factor in our inability to be a decent team. Bills record from 00-2015..2018 per pro-football-reference.com 2000*** 8-8 (colts were still in our division at the time) 2001**** 3-13 (last time colts were in our division) 2002*****8-8 2003*****6-10 2004*****9-7 2005*****5-11 2006*****7-9 2007*****7-9 2009****6-10 2010****4-12 2011****6-10 2012****6-10 2013****6-10 2014***9-7 2015****8-8 2016****7-9 2017****9-7 2018****6-10 Yup if the Patriots just spotted you guys one more win it would of truly made a difference huh? We not even gonna talk about the Bills not being good against the rest of the NFL. It was because of the Patriots. Edited September 25, 2021 by Ghost_002! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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