Training Camp Practice and Media Sessions 8/6

[HappyDays]

 

 

[leh-nerd skin-erd]

18 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:

 

This is so nice to hear.  Looking phenomenal is the new Normal!

 

 

 

If he's more muscular, he may have a very "dense" body and look slender for his weight

 

I’m dense, lack the overt physicality of muscularity and it’s been said I  look heavy for my height.  
 

I’m ok though, just taking it one day at a time. 

 

 

 

[YoloinOhio]

Wow josh picked a good day to get paid 

[Rico]

25 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said:

Wow josh picked a good day to get paid 

Thanks, somehow missed the big thread.

[HappyDays]

 

[Jerry Jabber]

14 minutes ago, HappyDays said:

 

That’s huge news! Glad Josh’s contract extension has been finalized!

[HappyDays]

 

I'm thinking back on all the years of hoping any Bills QB at camp will make a few decent throws, as I'm reading this:

 

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Friday morning, Allen put on a clinic on Day 8 of Bills training camp. Sean McDermott dialed up a number of red zone drills for his team to battle near the goal line and Allen was precise with the football. He made four throws that made everybody watching shake their head.

The first highlight came on a throw to Gabriel Davis, who had to make an impressive catch himself to get both feet down in bounds. Allen saw Davis running right to left and in the back of the end zone entering some open space. Safety Micah Hyde was the closest defender in coverage and Allen put the ball over his head and Davis did the rest.

The next series Allen had Isaiah Hodgins lined up on his left side and put a ball on him quickly with Tre’Davious White guarding him one-on-one. The ball came out quick and Hodgins made the grab and then had to fight to get into the end zone as White tried his best to keep him out. The second-year receiver made it in for the score.

A few plays later it was almost too easy as Allen found Cole Beasley, who beat Taron Johnson with a quick juke move and got open for a touchdown. A few minutes later, Allen went back to Beasley on the other side of the field for an easy touchdown. Daryl Williams and Cody Ford both had great protection in their battles against Greg Rousseau and Ed Oliver, respectively.

To wrap up his day of wow plays, Allen rolled out to his left and it looked like he had no available targets as he closed in on the sideline. But just as he was about to reach the out of bounds line he effortlessly pitched the ball about 15 yards to a suddenly wide open Tommy Sweeney in the back of the end zone. I just wrote “LOL” in my notebook.

 

A few other highlights:

 

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Davis and Hodgins stepping up

With all the Jake Kumerow hype in recent days it’s easy to forget what Davis and Hodgins bring to the table. They both provided reminders on Friday. For Hodgins, a big day was just what the doctor ordered as he may be in a roster battle with Kumerow this summer. Davis is a roster lock and has been consistent throughout camp. Today he shined, though. He made three catches but the touchdown from Allen was a high-level concentration catch.

 

Davis has apparently looked good since the pads came on. That's an encouraging sign, especially if Sanders foot injury lingers throughout the season.

 

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Knox can’t haul in TD pass

One day after the horrible drop with nobody even close to him, Knox had an opportunity to make a big-time grab in the end zone and he couldn’t bring it in. Matt Milano had really good coverage but the ball was a true 50/50 chance. Milano had great coverage and had a hand in there, but it’s a play Knox simply has to make.

 

It might be time to accept that Knox just isn't going to develop into a true #1 TE. I guess we'll see. I'm still hoping we land Ertz before the season. I don't want Knox's hands deciding an important game or God forbid a playoff game.

 

Edited August 6, 2021 by HappyDays

[YoloinOhio]

 

[LeGOATski]

1 hour ago, Paup 1995MVP said:

the dude is way too light at 6'5 255.  He is going up against guys his height who are at least 60-70 pounds heavier then him.  WTH is going on there?  My son is about 6'1 and a half and around 255 or so going into training camp at Georgia Southern this year playing DE.  I would think AJ should be pushing at least 270.  Its a big man's game.  We don't need our D Lineman looking like NBA forwards.  

That's cute. I remember when I had my first beer...

 

[Hapless Bills Fan]

1 hour ago, Paup 1995MVP said:

the dude is way too light at 6'5 255.  He is going up against guys his height who are at least 60-70 pounds heavier then him.  WTH is going on there?  My son is about 6'1 and a half and around 255 or so going into training camp at Georgia Southern this year playing DE.  I would think AJ should be pushing at least 270.  Its a big man's game.  We don't need our D Lineman looking like NBA forwards.  

 

So let's benchmark against the best edge rushers, as judged by everyone with 9 or more QB sacks last season (OLBs in 3-4 plus DE in 4-3):

TJ Watt (OLB), 6'4" 252

Trey Hendrickson (DE), 6'4" 270

Haason Reddick (OLB) 6'1" 235

Za'Darius Smith (OLB) 6'4" 272

Myles Garrett (DE) 6'4" 272

Leonard Floyd (OLB) 6'5", 240

Romeo Okwara (DE) 6'4", 263

Jason Pierre-Paul (OLB) 6'5, 275

Brian Burns (EDGE), 6'5", 250

Khalil Mack (OLB), 6'3" 269

Montez Sweat (EDGE) 6'6", 262

Emmanuel Ogbah (DE) 6'4", 275

Oliver Vernon (DE) 6'2", 262

 

Those are college weights, so any of those guys may have adopted a heavier or a lighter playing weight

 

I think the take-home is, for success in rushing the passer, there's not one "right weight". 

There are guys like Hendrickson, Smith, and Pierre-Paul who are heavier.

There are guys like Watt, Floyd, Burns, and Sweat who are lighter.

 

It probably depends upon specifics of their individual frame and the weight at which they get the most power.

 

At 6'5" and 260, Epenesa seems as though he'd slot right in

 

It sounds as though your son's coaches want him to play heavier, and evidently so did Epenesa's college coaches, but the Bills differ.

 

[Blainorama5]

Oh there was a practice today???  Too engrossed in the Josh Allen big money thread!!!

[RoyBatty is alive]

2 hours ago, Paup 1995MVP said:

the dude is way too light at 6'5 255.  He is going up against guys his height who are at least 60-70 pounds heavier then him.  WTH is going on there?  My son is about 6'1 and a half and around 255 or so going into training camp at Georgia Southern this year playing DE.  I would think AJ should be pushing at least 270.  Its a big man's game.  We don't need our D Lineman looking like NBA forwards.  

There are quality DEs of that weight in the NFL but it is small.  Maybe one of the reasons why our run D is so dreadful, running teams can wear down guys that size.

Edited August 6, 2021 by RoyBatty is alive

[Warcodered]

49 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said:

 

Dabol: Hmm....that was a pretty nice throw. 

[Max Fischer]

2 hours ago, HappyDays said:

 

 

Bills can go six-wide. 

[LeGOATski]

5 minutes ago, Max Fischer said:

Bills can go six-wide. 

Every time I see Josh in an empty backfield, I get excited

[Blainorama5]

How many guys on the team do you think have come up to Josh today joking about getting a loan from him?? 

[K-9]

10 minutes ago, Max Fischer said:

Bills can go six-wide. 

Love the idea, but I don’t think the refs would allow it. 

[Malazan]

9 minutes ago, Blainorama5 said:

How many guys on the team do you think have come up to Josh today joking about getting a loan from him?? 

 

Josh better call IK Enemkpali

[wjag]

Media sure is gushing over JA17 throws today.  Uniformly gushing...

[ColoradoBills]

5 minutes ago, wjag said:

Media sure is gushing over JA17 throws today.  Uniformly gushing...

 

With the contract news he got this morning before practice and knowing his family and friends are set for life and to give a passing

performance as all are saying is a showing of this young mans character.

 

I really can't believe we got this guy as our teams QB.