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FDA set to approve boosters on Monday for ages 12-15

 

They were just approved for the "normal vaccine?"  Omg.

 

Weren't they just approved in August?

 

Wore off already??  

 

So how long was I going in 2021 with no protection?  

 

Lololololol I don't care it's just a straight up joke how insane these people are.  

 

 

 

 

Oh wait - that's right.  This is to give schools cover to get the kids they're about to ban back into the buildings.  Chicago, DC, LA, NYC, going to require boosters to be considered fully vaccinated.  Oh and you'll still be in masks.    

 

Do you see the "must do this to do this" pattern developing to live life?  Totally normal nothing to see here question nothing.  

 

 

 

See at some point they either admit they were wrong.....or go full China.   

 

 

I'm betting Full China.  

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2 hours ago, Big Blitz said:

FDA set to approve boosters on Monday for ages 12-15

 

They were just approved for the "normal vaccine?"  Omg.

 

Weren't they just approved in August?

 

Wore off already??  

 

So how long was I going in 2021 with no protection?  

 

Lololololol I don't care it's just a straight up joke how insane these people are.  

 

 

 

 

Oh wait - that's right.  This is to give schools cover to get the kids they're about to ban back into the buildings.  Chicago, DC, LA, NYC, going to require boosters to be considered fully vaccinated.  Oh and you'll still be in masks.    

 

Do you see the "must do this to do this" pattern developing to live life?  Totally normal nothing to see here question nothing.  

 

 

 

See at some point they either admit they were wrong.....or go full China.   

 

 

I'm betting Full China.  

I’d rather die from Covid than be force medicated by the State...😉

 

 

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15 minutes ago, keepthefaith said:

This thing ends after most of our population has contracted Covid and recovered.  Until then, focus on the array of available treatments which isn't being done in too many places. 

It’s already over in reality. It won’t truly end though, until people stop listening to Democrat politicians, the media, and the Dem propaganda arm known as the CDC. Mass non compliance is the only way. 

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59 minutes ago, Boatdrinks said:

It’s already over in reality. It won’t truly end though, until people stop listening to Democrat politicians, the media, and the Dem propaganda arm known as the CDC. Mass non compliance is the only way. 

Absolutely correct...to me, the pandemic is over...it’s only the people that want to manipulate the situation that keep it going...civil disobedience is definitely in order, and I do it daily...😉

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16 hours ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said:

When I saw that bill referenced on a website, I went to the senate website to read the bill.  I then posted a link in one of these threads. 

 

The generally amiable @Doc Brown suggested I research the history of the bill, including that it never made it out of committee.  I responded, as I generally try to do, and remain uncertain as to why it's incumbent on me to consider and disregard the language contained in that bill.  

 

I've revisited it a few times, and still walk away thinking how ominous the language actually is.  If it were to become law, it would make a great premise for a futuristic sci-fi flick.  It was humorous on some level as well, give than while the appropriately empowered individuals might hustle you off to a detention center, and might be able to let your family or friends know (if feasible) and maybe provide access to representation (again, if feasible), there were limitations.  Turns out while you could be held for 60 days, then reupped again for another slug perpetually, nothing was going to happen on a Saturday, Sunday or holiday--days of rest for those running the game. 

 

 

 

 

Actually forgot about this and just read your response.  Sorry about that.  The only reason I responded is it struck me odd you'd give praise to someone posting a link with no context.  No mention of it being proposed back in 2015 because of the Ebola outbreak where some crazy lady refused to quarantine after interacting in patients with ebola.  This website added this little nugget at the bottom so I dug a little deeper.

 

Note: A previous version of this article mentioned a vote on the bill on January 5th 2022, that is the date of the legislative session in general, not the date of the vote on Bill A416.

 

 

 

So, they originally said there would be a vote on the bill on January 5th in order to conjure up fear to grow their platform.  In a way it's a good thing though as the writer of the bill enacted the stricken clause on December 21st after the backlash it received.  

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14 hours ago, Big Blitz said:

So the vaccines don't work.

 

Can we sue now?

 

 

 

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Fauci made cruise lines an offer they couldn't refuse.  When the ransom wasn't paid  - CDC issues warning.  Demented Biden and his communist buddies at it again.  Pay to play.  What a mess.  

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9 hours ago, keepthefaith said:

This thing ends after most of our population has contracted Covid and recovered.  Until then, focus on the array of available treatments which isn't being done in too many places. 

 

No, it ends when some non-Democratic, non-moron says "Enough, this is just another Cold/Flu virus, stop imagining more disease is happening than is really there, and get back to work and life as normal people should"

 

Will not happen under a Biden or any other Leftist organization because they desire a fearful populace that is easily governable 

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2 hours ago, LeviF said:


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Whenever you’re called a racist by the Left, you know you must be doing something right...🤣🤣🤣

 

They only call you racist when you’re not doing what they want...👍

 

 

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1 hour ago, SoCal Deek said:

You really don’t understand anything going on in your world….do you?

 

 

 

 

They know politically they are to blame for all this.  That's why all, literally all the leftists here have vanished from Covid discussion.

 

There won't be an "our bad, time to move on" end.  

 

There can't be a "if we do this that means they were right" end. 

 

 

A new President of the U.S. can come in and say "go back to normal" all he wants but it won't matter as long as the cowards and commies in the CDC give their comrades at the local level "follow our bull ***t science" cover.  

 

They need to be swept out of office at every level into the ash heap of history.  Never given power again.  Govs need to start standing up to stupid and start telling the scared to stay home.  It's their fear that's hurting democracy and freedom not people refusing a 5th booster.   

 

They are doubling down on a f....ing cold.  About to send kids back to virtual wastelands.  Changing vaccination status - this won't be the first time.  Banning travel and activities.

 

It is now year 3.  

 

And yes, it's a cold:

 

 

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"damage to the lungs" and "myocarditis" will be the ultimate error-stones of this period.

 

ALL viruses can cause Myocarditis at any (rare) time.  Not a Pandemic thing.

 

People with BMIs 40+ had trouble breathing prior to COVID, and post-COVID they also...have trouble breathing.  

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14 hours ago, keepthefaith said:

This thing ends after most of our population has contracted Covid and recovered.  Until then, focus on the array of available treatments which isn't being done in too many places. 

Unfortunately, I have to disagree...these people are drunk on the power now...and I don’t see them ever giving it up...

 

Sadly, I see any little cold or illness being labeled a new “variant” of covid just so they can force people into the direction the State wants them to go...hence the politicization of covid- because it’s not about health, but rather politics- the politics of tearing down the old system and installing a new one, where the individual has no control over themselves...

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By a 2019 definition, it's not crazy to say that COVID isn't the biggest story of 2021, but the failure to respond to COVID is.  

 

Despite the lockdowns, the masks, the social distancing, the vaccines, the mandates, you have more cases of COVID than ever before.  

 

And two years in, the governments of the world still don't know where it came from, or worse, unwilling to tell where it came from.  

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Hmmm, this was interesting to me. In a WAPO story about vaccine mandates in France, was this little tidbit. 
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2022/01/05/macron-unvaccinated-france-covid/

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n. (The U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention has said that data indicates vaccinated people potentially have reduced transmissibility, though more research is needed.)

Maybe I missed something, has the CDC completely backed off the claim these “vaccines”  are in fact vaccines? 

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I actually have to congratulate Hochul on something she did.  She is now asking hospitals if people admitted and have COVID  - were they admitted for something else like a car accident and then tested positive or were they admitted solely for COVID.  This is a big difference and it's important information to have to make good decisions.  She's actually using her head unlike Demented Biden who is mentally incapacitated.  What a mess.  

 

 

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47 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said:

Once again… EVERYONE that I know that’s gotten the virus in the last week was fully vaccinated and many were also boosted. What planet is the President on? 

I've heard the same thing from friends and co-workers here.  My take is Omicron has revealed the vaccine only strategy as a folly.  A variant that looks to be more infectious, has shed its bio-engineered attributes, and is more or less a bad cold for the healthy.  And the narrative shifts from protection from illness to minimizing the  severity of the illness.  Under the premise that if you are un-vaccinated the case of COVID you'll experience will be more severe than if you are vaxed.    

 

If you get infected try this.  10 days of ivermectin, dioxycyline, tylenol, vitamin c & d, zinc, and a multi-vitamin.  That's what they used in India to suppress the Delta outbreak.  For under $3 bucks a patient.  More like $20 here I expect.  Our medical community is starting to push the newest Pfizer and Merck treatments at $700 bucks a pop.  With all kinds of adverse drug interactions to things like satins which a lot of people take.  Good luck with that.

 

What's the goal?  To eradicate or control the pandemic or to destroy the economy, revoke all civil liberties, and kill as many people as possible?  Irv is right.  What a mess..

 

 

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4 hours ago, All_Pro_Bills said:

I've heard the same thing from friends and co-workers here.  My take is Omicron has revealed the vaccine only strategy as a folly.  A variant that looks to be more infectious, has shed its bio-engineered attributes, and is more or less a bad cold for the healthy.  And the narrative shifts from protection from illness to minimizing the  severity of the illness.  Under the premise that if you are un-vaccinated the case of COVID you'll experience will be more severe than if you are vaxed.    

 

If you get infected try this.  10 days of ivermectin, dioxycyline, tylenol, vitamin c & d, zinc, and a multi-vitamin.  That's what they used in India to suppress the Delta outbreak.  For under $3 bucks a patient.  More like $20 here I expect.  Our medical community is starting to push the newest Pfizer and Merck treatments at $700 bucks a pop.  With all kinds of adverse drug interactions to things like satins which a lot of people take.  Good luck with that.

 

What's the goal?  To eradicate or control the pandemic or to destroy the economy, revoke all civil liberties, and kill as many people as possible?  Irv is right.  What a mess..

 

 

It's not as much of a mess as people would like it to be, or think that it is.  The human race has been around for thousand of years prior to vaccines.  Up until now these pandemics have just naturally burn themselves out without much being done about them by humans. It's only in the 21st Century that we've started to think we can control everything from a virus to planetary temperatures.

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5 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said:

It's not as much of a mess as people would like it to be, or think that it is.  The human race has been around for thousand of years prior to vaccines.  Up until now these pandemics have just naturally burn themselves out without much being done about them by humans. It's only in the 21st Century that we've started to think we can control everything from a virus to planetary temperatures.

 

The Sorkinization of the Democratic Party has destroyed America.

 

We cannot science our way out of everything.

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No, you don’t say. Where is @Sundancerand @The Frankish Reich when ya really need them to defend the vaccines. 

 

I mean why would the CEOs of both Moderna and Pfizer say ya need a fourth go round? They have ZERO to gain of their LTIPS based on revenue targets and EBITIDA AND Share price. They ONLY care about public health. 
 

My lord, when do the Stockholm syndrome folks break free? 
 

 

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4 hours ago, plenzmd1 said:

No, you don’t say. Where is @Sundancerand @The Frankish Reich when ya really need them to defend the vaccines. 

 

I mean why would the CEOs of both Moderna and Pfizer say ya need a fourth go round? They have ZERO to gain of their LTIPS based on revenue targets and EBITIDA AND Share price. They ONLY care about public health. 
 

My lord, when do the Stockholm syndrome folks break free? 
 

 

 

 

It hasn't even been 1 year since the "vaccine" became available to the majority of the population.  In fact it's been about 8 months.  

 

And we're talking about 3rd 4th and 5th *boosters* no questions asked from anyone in the media bubble.  

 

President CDC is on a Late Night Political Show disguised as comedy....everyone is confused.  The moron in the White House playing the role of President in front of the cameras is threatening people that don't get the flu shot. 

 

Everything is stupid.

 

 

They will never be able to bring themselves to admit Florida was right.  Masks are worthless.  And they will never shake the inability to let people decide on their own how to live.  

 

Going to need a lot more justification and a plan here you morons because this is unsustainable and unacceptable.

 

Too much time spent planning the solemn anniversary of January 6th.  Zero time leading.  

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I do have good news to report today, and not being facetious. Watching the local TV news for RVA this morning , they reported positivity rate at 34%, and over 15k new cases. And they reported it matter of factly, followed it up with about a minute on new testing sites.. and then moved on after reporting all local school districts are staying open. 
 

in September, it was end of days with 8% positivity and 4K cases. 
 

good to see common sense coming back, we are finally, finally , at the point we should have been in May 2020. 
 

and, I think we are finally at a place the vast majority of people understand the vaccine at best was a help in symptoms, not even close to providing ANY immunity. 

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Listened to the oral arguments at SCOTUS this morning.  

 

You need a big set of balls to argue a case in front of the Supreme Court.  I can see how that could be so absolutely intimidating you'd lose your train of thought under the barrage of questions and being interrupted by a Justice mid-sentence and pivoting to their argument.  

 

It's a hard read for a layman to figure out where these judges stand.  I thought they grilled the attorneys for the states and the retail federation hard but the same judges then launch into the government with the same aggressive questioning. 

 

I think both sides got into the weeds on COVID too much - it's fundamentally not about COVID at all - it's really a question of whether the executive branch can do what they've attempted to do here.  I think if this mandate is upheld, there is not much stopping this President or any future President from using federal agencies to launch loosely held together mandates through ETS as a punitive action against an industry or start mandating all sorts of "protections" that benefit another industry like the health insurance lobby.  They would absolutely love mandatory physicals, flu vaccinations, weight loss, non-smoking to keep their costs lower in the name of "workplace safety."    

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I work a a very large Upstate NY company.  Today they said be vaccinated regardless if you are working from home or onsite.  And prove it.   Ninety percent working from home.  If you don't want to be vaccinated, have to get weekly testing, on your own dime, and prove it.  Non-compliance....adios buddy.  WTF?  Where are you going to get the tests?  We already don't have enough people to fill the spots we have open. 

 

Meanwile, they send out weekly reports of the positive cases.  There's more vaccinated than unvaccintaed on it.   All becuase of Demented Biden and his communist buddies.  Ridiculous.

 

What a mess!   

2 hours ago, dpberr said:

Listened to the oral arguments at SCOTUS this morning.  

 

You need a big set of balls to argue a case in front of the Supreme Court.  I can see how that could be so absolutely intimidating you'd lose your train of thought under the barrage of questions and being interrupted by a Justice mid-sentence and pivoting to their argument.  

 

It's a hard read for a layman to figure out where these judges stand.  I thought they grilled the attorneys for the states and the retail federation hard but the same judges then launch into the government with the same aggressive questioning. 

 

I think both sides got into the weeds on COVID too much - it's fundamentally not about COVID at all - it's really a question of whether the executive branch can do what they've attempted to do here.  I think if this mandate is upheld, there is not much stopping this President or any future President from using federal agencies to launch loosely held together mandates through ETS as a punitive action against an industry or start mandating all sorts of "protections" that benefit another industry like the health insurance lobby.  They would absolutely love mandatory physicals, flu vaccinations, weight loss, non-smoking to keep their costs lower in the name of "workplace safety."    

This!

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