Big Blitz Posted July 14, 2021 Share Posted July 14, 2021 3 minutes ago, unbillievable said: Elon Musk had an interesting interview about the role of technology replacing ALL human jobs. A.I. would replace management Robots would replace labor. The final result is that everything would be FREE. What happens when everything in the world costs nothing because Robots took over every industry. We become slaves without purpose. He's not wrong about what can happen to the workforce which is constantly looking for cheap labor We handed them a golden opportunity with the sham Covid response. But he's wrong about everything being free - if that's what he said. Resources are finite. Nothing is ever free. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RochesterRob Posted July 14, 2021 Share Posted July 14, 2021 11 minutes ago, Tiberius said: So we will be able to make everrthyng we need and no one will have to work. That might be good It will not be good for a sizable portion of Americans. The ones that count on work to tire themselves out so they don't beat their wives, abuse animals, or molest 10 year old kids. Those kinds of crimes know no boundaries in terms of political affiliation. We are not wired genetically to go from taking most of the time we are awake just to have the basics such as it was 100 years ago to have unlimited free time and yet be fed, sheltered, etc.. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unbillievable Posted July 14, 2021 Share Posted July 14, 2021 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Big Blitz said: We become slaves without purpose. He's not wrong about what can happen to the workforce which is constantly looking for cheap labor We handed them a golden opportunity with the sham Covid response. But he's wrong about everything being free - if that's what he said. Resources are finite. Nothing is ever free. The idea was that no human would be able to make money. Either we make all products free, or give everyone a UBIncome. The only way to unite our political system, is to replace politicians with robots. THe scary part is that Musk (among others) said that it WILL happen in our lifetime. That's how fast the technology is advancing. Edited July 14, 2021 by unbillievable Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unbillievable Posted July 14, 2021 Share Posted July 14, 2021 12 minutes ago, TSOL said: I see alot of debt and that is troubling me. I really hope they chill on that 3.5 trillion infrastructure bill, I think that it is wildly reckless and irresponsible because inflation is bad enough as it is without a gargantuan new debt. If they pass that bill it will be harmful to the future of the country and it will cement Biden as Jimmy Carter on steroids ...Not to mention that nothing in that bill has anything to do with rebuilding infrastructure. It's all money for social programs. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted July 14, 2021 Share Posted July 14, 2021 5 minutes ago, unbillievable said: ...Not to mention that nothing in that bill has anything to do with rebuilding infrastructure. It's all money for social programs. See Infrastructure thread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringMetheHeadofLeonLett Posted July 14, 2021 Share Posted July 14, 2021 4 hours ago, Governor said: We have to start somewhere. The entire political system is broken. That’s how you end up with a Matt Gaetz. Correct, we have to start somewhere. I'm all for what you proposed earlier, but nothing can realistically change as long as districts are drawn in such a way to allow the radicals on both sides to, A. Get voted in, and B. Have virtually unchallengeable job security. Gerrymandering is the root of that problem, and the incumbents sure as heck aren't going to voluntarily correct it. So that leaves it to us to either resist all 'feel-good' urges and stop voting the fringe idiots into power, or we need a 3rd, moderate, party to really take hold. It's a steep ***** mountain for a nation accustomed to Coke vs. Pepsi. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unbillievable Posted July 14, 2021 Share Posted July 14, 2021 1 minute ago, BringMetheHeadofLeonLett said: Correct, we have to start somewhere. I'm all for what you proposed earlier, but nothing can realistically change as long as districts are drawn in such a way to allow the radicals on both sides to, A. Get voted in, and B. Have virtually unchallengeable job security. Gerrymandering is the root of that problem, and the incumbents sure as heck aren't going to voluntarily correct it. So that leaves it to us to either resist all 'feel-good' urges and stop voting the fringe idiots into power, or we need a 3rd, moderate, party to really take hold. It's a steep ***** mountain for a nation accustomed to Coke vs. Pepsi. Everyone has their idea on how to divide districts. It's ALL subjective. SO, what's the logical solution to Gerrymandering? Have a computer divide the land into fractal patterns? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted July 14, 2021 Share Posted July 14, 2021 I think a big part of what's been left out of this thread is the world isn't going to pause and wait for us to get our ***** together, China is a significant threat that will absolutely take advantage of our chasing our own tail. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiotAct Posted July 14, 2021 Share Posted July 14, 2021 Hooray for our side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted July 14, 2021 Share Posted July 14, 2021 IMHO The United States is at a tipping point. As I've posted in other threads, all the rest of this chatter is just that...chatter. We are now gripped in a death match struggle between collectivism and individualism. It is the root cause of everything else (climate change, globalism, CRT, voting laws, health care, etc.). I'm going to be really interested to see which side wins....but make no mistake, this is NOT the Republicans against the Democrats as many old-schoolers on here would love to frame it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frostbitmic Posted July 14, 2021 Share Posted July 14, 2021 The hate and division in this country is growing rapidly, bad things are going to continue happening at a rapid pace, civil war part II isn't out of the realm of possibility. Soon whites will be the minority in this country, that'll be interesting. . 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted July 14, 2021 Share Posted July 14, 2021 8 minutes ago, frostbitmic said: The hate and division in this country is growing rapidly, bad things are going to continue happening at a rapid pace, civil war part II isn't out of the realm of possibility. Soon whites will be the minority in this country, that'll be interesting. . Say what? And what systemic laws will be authored by People of Color? Laws that allow discrimination? The Laws we have now already don't allow it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irv Posted July 14, 2021 Share Posted July 14, 2021 With the exception of the predictable jokers, this has actually been a good thread with some well thought out ideas. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frat-Train Posted July 14, 2021 Share Posted July 14, 2021 1 minute ago, Irv said: With the exception of the predictable jokers, this has actually been a good thread with some well thought out ideas. Agreed. Proof that good conversation can happen here. I’ve lurked on this side for a few months watching these guys tear each other apart. But it’s really just the same 4-5 posters that do it intentionally. Really glad to see some civility here. Thank you, everyone! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
716er Posted July 14, 2021 Share Posted July 14, 2021 (edited) Thousands of dead anti-vaxxers, millions of Covid long haulers, and mass migration due to climate change. Politics eventually takes a back seat when the above is beyond obvious. Edited July 14, 2021 by 716er 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringMetheHeadofLeonLett Posted July 14, 2021 Share Posted July 14, 2021 1 hour ago, unbillievable said: Everyone has their idea on how to divide districts. It's ALL subjective. SO, what's the logical solution to Gerrymandering? Have a computer divide the land into fractal patterns? This is not a head-scratcher. Sure, quick and simple- pass a law requiring all portions to be within a minimum and maximum percentage of x miles of an agreed upon central district point. Voters in a series of fringe/overlapping blocks can vote to join District A, or District B. Districts will vary in size (x) based upon population density. B743A3EF-0B97-458B-979E-662B07A370ED.webp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snafu Posted July 14, 2021 Share Posted July 14, 2021 (edited) 4 hours ago, JaCrispy said: Unfortunately, one party rule is not gonna good for anyone...(see Nazi party, or Chinese Communist Party)... ...Cuba, Venezuela, Iran. To me, things work fine the way the system is set up. Sure, the peripheral things like political lobbyists, and mega corporations, and media bias, and internet social engineering exist, but things like that always existed. Republicans complained that nothing got accomplished when their party held the Executive and majorities in the House and Senate. Democrats are complaining about the same thing now. That, to me, is a good sign that things can't go off the rails too far one way or the other. Nothing REALLY changes and Democrats that want to change the rules don't like that. Don't forget that there's the invisible power that voters have over politicians -- political backlash and getting rejected in the next election. One big and ugly difference between the two parties is that lately when Democrats don't get their way through the system that's set up now, they call to change the rules to make success inevitable (Electoral College, Supreme Court packing, Filibuster). The political class doesn't want to upset their cash/power cow. But things will change drastically and for the worse if these proposals to amend the existing rules are put in place. 1 hour ago, unbillievable said: ...Not to mention that nothing in that bill has anything to do with rebuilding infrastructure. It's all money for social programs. New Unfunded Entitlements, not just social programs. Edited July 14, 2021 by snafu 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Governor Posted July 14, 2021 Share Posted July 14, 2021 1 hour ago, BringMetheHeadofLeonLett said: Correct, we have to start somewhere. I'm all for what you proposed earlier, but nothing can realistically change as long as districts are drawn in such a way to allow the radicals on both sides to, A. Get voted in, and B. Have virtually unchallengeable job security. Gerrymandering is the root of that problem, and the incumbents sure as heck aren't going to voluntarily correct it. So that leaves it to us to either resist all 'feel-good' urges and stop voting the fringe idiots into power, or we need a 3rd, moderate, party to really take hold. It's a steep ***** mountain for a nation accustomed to Coke vs. Pepsi. Have you ever seen Jim Jordan’s district? You should take a look. It’s hilarious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Blitz Posted July 14, 2021 Share Posted July 14, 2021 Jeremy White retweeted this the other day: Public opinion and action is determined by "scrolling through" the Twitter comments. Yep they totally speak for society. LOG OFF!! Stop giving these useless "people" (or bots) any attention. My point being.....stop living in a fake social media cocoon and think that what you read or fake trending there is indicative of the real world and it all needs "fixing." The partisan anger and Twitter usage chart since 2010 has a stunning parallel side by side rise. Lololol what if....now bare with me here......that all the white racists (that aren't bots) DO NOT have jobs. Assuming white people work.......That's very......not woke. He needs more diversity training. Responses like this and the climate it's creating, everyone is a fake. No one going to want to offend anyone ever. Never saying what they really think. It's literally the Black Mirror Episode Nosedive out there. I'd like to know what all white neighborhood Mr. O'Connell lives in - ok I shouldn't assume he's racist because he's white. But wait....my CRT training says I should assume this. Now I'm confused. Anyway, we're all going to be free from work soon anyway. Soooooo........how will we ever shame these great villains in history into oblivion? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted July 14, 2021 Share Posted July 14, 2021 This is nothing new. We've been a polarized country from day one. If you remember there was this "thing" in the mid 19th century that demonstrated how polarized we are. It's just 24/7 news cycle and social media that has it in our faces all day every day. I'm not worried. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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