Cuba

[B-Man]

Just now, unbillievable said:

why should voting be restricted to eligible and people?

 

 

I understand that you are joking at Tibs expense, but we should not really even acknowledge his ignorance, that was on me.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Tiberius]

When the people are not allowed to vote the country goes to crap while the rich elite spew propaganda and party it up. 

[unbillievable]

Cubans on boats will not be allowed to enter the US.

They must first land in Mexico, and walk.

 

[Tiberius]

27 minutes ago, B-Man said:

 

My apologies to everyone, I should not have bothered with Tib's nonsense.

 

Back to the thread.

 

 

LIVE FROM HAVANA

 

 

The Obama cat has the Biden administration’s tongue as the Communist thugs carry on in Havana, imprisoning anyone who can get the word out on the open air prison they maintain to support the regime. The continued tyranny and immiseration appear to be reaching a breaking point with the protests that have brought the regime back into the news. It’s time for it to go.

 

Yesterday Cuban police arrested the popular YouTube/Instagram personality Dina Stars at her home while she was interviewed on the Spanish Cuatro channel’s television program Todo Es Mentira (I believe that is translated “Everything Is a Lie”).

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Voting is the thread? What do you think these people want? A Trump clown in charge? Hello doofus, that's what they got now! 

 

You guys are trying to do that to us you sick clown 

[Westside]

1 minute ago, Tiberius said:

Voting is the thread? What do you think these people want? A Trump clown in charge? Hello doofus, that's what they got now! 

 

You guys are trying to do that to us you sick clown 

Someone’s off there meds

[All_Pro_Bills]

9 minutes ago, unbillievable said:

Cubans on boats will not be allowed to enter the US.

They must first land in Mexico, and walk.

 

The left will not welcome them because they tend to be more conservative than immigrants from Central America.  And Cubans come here for freedom not for hand outs. 

 

And the left doesn't want them here because you can't condemn communism in Cuba while advocating it here.  That's why all the woke social justice human rights advocates have gone underground and are maintaining radio silence on the subject.  Its a contradiction they won't face. 

 

My idea, all the American socialists/communists wanting communism can swap places with a Cuban citizen wishing to live here.  A win-win for everyone.  I'm 100% positive there will be no takers for that offer.

[Tiberius]

Why are countries where the people can’t vote so messed up? 

[Demongyz]

6 minutes ago, Tiberius said:

Why are countries where the people can’t vote so messed up? 

I love how you like to ignore the socialist and communist implications, but yeah, when you can't vote there are major issues.  Or when you can vote, then once in power you change all the rules based around voting ensuring you can stay in power.  Venezuela is that way for sure.

 

Authoritarianism is terrible.  Telling people what they should think and say.  Blocking any dissenting points of view.  These are scary things.

 

This is why we need a free press/freedom of speech here in America because when the press is an arm of a political party the power balance can shift so quickly and then suddenly we are all under the thumb of authoritarians. 

[Tiberius]

1 minute ago, Demongyz said:

I love how you like to ignore the socialist and communist implications, but yeah, when you can't vote there are major issues.  Or when you can vote, then once in power you change all the rules based around voting ensuring you can stay in power.  Venezuela is that way for sure.

 

Authoritarianism is terrible.  Telling people what they should think and say.  Blocking any dissenting points of view.  These are scary things.

 

This is why we need a free press/freedom of speech here in America because when the press is an arm of a political party the power balance can shift so quickly and then suddenly we are all under the thumb of authoritarians. 

The people didn’t vote for communism, that was imposed by undemocratic thugs. Let the people vote. 

 

More democracy, not less is the way forward. 

 

 

If Cubans could vote, that island would take off politically, economically and socially. 

[njbuff]

24 minutes ago, Bidens_basement said:

Someone’s off there meds

Or on a higher dosage.

[Demongyz]

1 minute ago, Tiberius said:

The people didn’t vote for communism, that was imposed by undemocratic thugs. Let the people vote. 

 

More democracy, not less is the way forward. 

 

 

If Cubans could vote, that island would take off politically, economically and socially. 

They voted in Maduro.  They have elections still in Venezuela.

 

Socialism leads to Communism because they are one in the same.

 

If Cubans could vote, they would vote out Socialism and vote in free enterprise.  If you don't believe me, why is it we can bring in hundreds of thousands of people from Latin America every month, yet the Biden admin won't admit fleeing Cubans?

[Tiberius]

1 minute ago, Demongyz said:

They voted in Maduro.  They have elections still in Venezuela.

 

Socialism leads to Communism because they are one in the same.

 

If Cubans could vote, they would vote out Socialism and vote in free enterprise.  If you don't believe me, why is it we can bring in hundreds of thousands of people from Latin America every month, yet the Biden admin won't admit fleeing Cubans?

Venezuela now? That’s a dictatorship. 

 

Cubans did not vote in communism. They can’t vote. 

[Warcodered]

56 minutes ago, B-Man said:

 

 

I understand that you are joking at Tibs expense, but we should not really even acknowledge his ignorance, that was on me.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I mean the question is what are we supposed to do? Are supposed to invade/liberate Cuba?

[Demongyz]

1 minute ago, Warcodered said:

I mean the question is what are we supposed to do? Are supposed to invade/liberate Cuba?

We could allow people to flee Cuba to USA, we could use the Navy to protect them on their way.  We could even ferry people to the USA.

 

Give them a way to escape. That's about all I would be willing to do.  We don't need another war.

4 minutes ago, Tiberius said:

Venezuela now? That’s a dictatorship. 

 

Cubans did not vote in communism. They can’t vote. 

No, they didn't and can't, but Venezuela could and did.  But for some reason when the people were starving to death, they voted in the same regime again.

 

Weird how that works.

[Warcodered]

1 minute ago, Demongyz said:

We could allow people to flee Cuba to USA, we could use the Navy to protect them on their way.  We could even ferry people to the USA.

 

Give them a way to escape. That's about all I would be willing to do.  We don't need another war.

I'm not saying I disagree but do we not already have a crises at our border over people fleeing violent dangerous situations?

[Demongyz]

5 minutes ago, Warcodered said:

I'm not saying I disagree but do we not already have a crises at our border over people fleeing violent dangerous situations?

For the most part those folks are just economic migrants, not fleeing oppression.  Sure all of those countries are more dangerous than America, they aren't under the thumb of an authoritarian government.

[Warcodered]

17 minutes ago, Demongyz said:

For the most part those folks are just economic migrants, not fleeing oppression.  Sure all of those countries are more dangerous than America, they aren't under the thumb of an authoritarian government.

When violent gangs control things where you live I don't really see much of a difference.

[Demongyz]

2 minutes ago, Warcodered said:

When violent gangs control things where you live I don't really see much of a difference.

Sure, but I'd rather live in Mexico than South Side Chicago.

 

El Salvadorians have a gripe, but when they get to Mexico international law dictates that they apply for refugee status there instead of crossing through that country and walking across the boarder of the US only to be shipped inland and never heard from again.  This is not the way.

[B-Man]

 

No need to worry Warcoded..........The Biden/Harris Administration is on it.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Demongyz]

1 minute ago, B-Man said:

 

No need to worry Warcoded..........The Biden/Harris Administration is on it.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Cubans tend to vote Republican.

 

It's almost as though everything we have thought is true about the Democrats.

[SoCal Deek]

1 hour ago, Tiberius said:

Why are countries where the people can’t vote so messed up? 

You've really lost it.  The problem is not people voting.  Any idiot can submit a vote.  The problem is whether the people on the other side of the counter (or the other end of the voting machine) can be trusted to accurately record those votes.

How many times have you seen some third world 'leader' come out and declare victory, without any way for the voters to say 'Wait a minute! What do you mean you won again?  That's impossible!"

[B-Man]

 

 

 

 

 

 

Or as America’s Newspaper of Record puts it: ‘

You Just Don’t Understand Socialism Like I Do,’ Says College Freshman To Man Who Escaped Socialism On A Raft.

 

https://babylonbee.com/news/you-just-dont-understand-socialism-like-i-do-says-college-freshman-to-man-escaping-socialism-on-raft

 

😆

 

 

[All_Pro_Bills]

20 minutes ago, B-Man said:

 

No need to worry Warcoded..........The Biden/Harris Administration is on it.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Take your time machine back to the Trump administration and everybody in the media and the woke virtue signalers would be calling such statements from DHS racist. 

 

Can the irony and hypocrisy get any louder?    

[B-Man]

 

 

 

 

 

MLB has closer ties to Cuban players and the Cuban people than any other professional sports league in the country.

 

They no longer get to pick and choose their social and political battles.

 

Enjoy the mess guys!

 

 

[Tiberius]

Democracy now! 

 

This is is what happens to a place that gets run by a cult like idiot. No wonder the people are protesting 

[sherpa]

4 hours ago, Tiberius said:

When the people are not allowed to vote the country goes to crap while the rich elite spew propaganda and party it up. 

 

Venezuelans are allowed to vote.

How has that worked?

[T&C]

Why exactly is the US getting dragged into this? Media I know but really, why? We don't have the money to be the diaper of the whole world... *****, we're bleeding money that hasn't even been printed yet.

Edited July 14, 2021 by T&C

[B-Man]

6 minutes ago, T&C said:

Why exactly is the US getting dragged into this? Media I know but really, why? We don't have the money to be the diaper of the whole world... *****, we're bleeding money that hasn't even been printed yet.

 

 

No one is saying send in troops.

 

No one is saying send money.

 

How about an condemning of the crackdown from our 'leaders, Biden/Harris,

 

One that actually uses the words Communism or Socialism.

 

A little vocal support goes a long, long way.

 

 

I fear it is too late now though............

 

 

 

 

Edited July 14, 2021 by B-Man

[716er]

6 minutes ago, T&C said:

Why exactly is the US getting dragged into this? Media I know but really, why? We don't have the money to be the diaper of the whole world... *****, we're bleeding money that hasn't even been printed yet.

Politics

[T&C]

Thanks for the replies. I live in Florida so I'm seeing the "protests" more than say Nebraska is seeing. Thought that blocking roads wasn't a thing anymore but I guess it still is. Or, lazy enforcement. Not cool when emergency vehicles need to get somewhere fast.

[JaCrispy]

1 hour ago, Tiberius said:

Democracy now! 

 

This is is what happens to a place that gets run by a cult like idiot. No wonder the people are protesting 

Oh Tibs, you are too adorable...😉

1 hour ago, sherpa said:

 

Venezuelans are allowed to vote.

How has that worked?

Wait, they use Dominion too, right? 👻😉

Edited July 14, 2021 by JaCrispy

[SCBills]

I may lean right, but I’ve never been a “build the wall” type.  It’s one of those issues I’m very in the middle on.  
 

I know how lucky I am to be born here and think we need to remember that when we discuss immigration and refugee status.  
 

With all that said…. **** the Biden Administration for denying Cubans political asylum.  This administration is a joke, and this is one of the more disgusting, hypocritical decisions I’ve seen any administration make in a long time.  
 

Semi-open southern border, but Cubans and Haitians… truly those in need of political asylum, we deny.  

[T&C]

9 minutes ago, SCBills said:

I may lean right, but I’ve never been a “build the wall” type.  It’s one of those issues I’m very in the middle on.  
 

I know how lucky I am to be born here and think we need to remember that when we discuss immigration and refugee status.  
 

With all that said…. **** the Biden Administration for denying Cubans political asylum.  This administration is a joke, and this is one of the more disgusting, hypocritical decisions I’ve seen any administration make in a long time.  
 

Semi-open southern border, but Cubans and Haitians… truly those in need of political asylum, we deny.  

Why us? Why exactly do we have to take care of everybody on this earth? It isn't possible. 

[SCBills]

41 minutes ago, T&C said:

Why us? Why exactly do we have to take care of everybody on this earth? It isn't possible. 

Its not, nor should it be, but our laws have been written to accept refugees under political persecution.  
 

That is not happening in El Salvador, Honduras, Guatemala, Mexico etc., yet our door to them is wide open.   
 

Somehow Cubans, who are truly fleeing persecution, we say no? 

[Beach]

6 minutes ago, SCBills said:

Its not, nor should it be, but our laws have been written to accept refugees under political persecution.  
 

That is not happening in El Salvador, Honduras, Guatemala, Mexico etc., yet our door to them is wide open.   
 

Somehow Cubans, who are truly fleeing persecution, we say no? 

which way would Cubans vote?  

[SCBills]

44 minutes ago, Beach said:

which way would Cubans vote?  

I really don’t want to believe that has anything to do with it, but it’s hard to not see the Biden Admin come out forcefully, immediately, against 70/30 R split Cubans, while they stay being nonsensical in policy on the southern border with 60/40 D split immigrants from Central America. 

[Westside]

46 minutes ago, SCBills said:

I really don’t want to believe that has anything to do with it, but it’s hard to not see the Biden Admin come out forcefully, immediately, against 70/30 R split Cubans, while they stay being nonsensical in policy on the southern border with 60/40 D split immigrants from Central America. 

I believe it’s all political. That’s why the left gives away money to illegal immigrants on the border.

[B-Man]

 

 

Reuters Take on Cuban Protests Shows Why Journalism Is Truly Dead

 

 

Over the past year, we saw the difference in how media treated lockdown protests vs. how they treated the BLM/Antifa actions in their pandemic-related descriptions.

 

Lockdown protests were treated as “super spreaders” and people wanting to kill Grandma. But in the case of the BLM protests, media justified the protests, saying they were necessary despite the pandemic because of the importance of their cause, regardless of the risk.

 

All the rights and freedoms, your job or your livelihood, going to the funeral for your mom, going to church — all that couldn’t happen. But BLM protests could, and the pandemic apparently would magically skip them.

 

Media cited public health experts justifying the protests, “White supremacy is a lethal public health issue that predates and contributes to COVID-19,” NPR quoted the ‘experts.’

 

So, therefore, with a great evil like the Communist government of Cuba, with communism being responsible for the death and oppression of millions, you would think that the media would use the same logic they claimed about the BLM, right? Not so much.

 

 

 

 

 

Once again, apparently, the virus picks and only strikes folks that Democrats and media have an issue with. It’s a uniquely intelligent virus. It doesn’t hit those with a special “cause.” So we know what Reuters thinks of one of the most evil ideologies that man has ever invented. How to toss away any remaining journalistic credibility that Reuters may have once had all in one tweet.

 

Maybe the people in the streets are thinking that their government is a greater threat to them at this point, after 62 years of oppression — with people being beaten in the streets and arrested — than the virus.

 

How dare they fight for their freedom?!

 

Here’s a thought for Reuters: One of the reasons we have the pandemic is, at least in part, because of the cover-up by another evil Communist government, that of China. So yes, I’m thinking that even in talking about the pandemic, if there hadn’t been the oppressive communism, we’d all be in a different place now, even on that score.

 

https://redstate.com/nick-arama/2021/07/14/reuters-take-on-cuban-protests-shows-why-journalism-is-truly-dead-n410998

[Tiberius]

4 hours ago, JaCrispy said:

Oh Tibs, you are too adorable...😉

Wait, they use Dominion too, right? 👻😉

No appreciation of democracy? Seems out of favor on the right these days. 

[Chef Jim]

2 minutes ago, Tiberius said:

No appreciation of democracy? Seems out of favor on the right these days. 

How so?