DeSantis For President in 2024?

[reddogblitz]

11 hours ago, Doc Brown said:

Doesn't matter.  If anybody but Trump wins the Republican primary then Biden won't run for reelection. 

 

How is this gonna work?  A Republican will wrap up the nomination in late April.  At which point President Biden will have wrapped up his too  Then if its not Trump, he'll drop out?  I can't seed that happening, but Ok.  Who will run for Democrats now?  Primaries are over.

[Doc]

6 hours ago, Greg S said:

Biden isn't running period. He shouldn't even be the President now. Keeping politics out of it he just isn't there "mentally". He should be in a rest home drinking juice from a sippy cup. 

 

This.  No chance he runs in 2024, assuming he can still even get words out by then.

[Doc Brown]

10 hours ago, reddogblitz said:

 

How is this gonna work?  A Republican will wrap up the nomination in late April.  At which point President Biden will have wrapped up his too  Then if its not Trump, he'll drop out?  I can't seed that happening, but Ok.  Who will run for Democrats now?  Primaries are over.

They’ll be able to read the tea leaves way before Iowa on whether Trump will win or not.  

[BillStime]

No WAY

 

 

[Tiberius]

34 minutes ago, BillStime said:

No WAY

 

 

No wonder the GOP is rising up against the FBI, they investigate hate crimes 

[Big Blitz]

The NY Times - this is loooooooong. 

 

It is not meant to be glowing - but it's not a hit piece either.  It is most likely the opening salvo of the 2024 primary they want Trump to win:

 

 

Is Ron DeSantis the Future of the Republican Party?

 

For years, Democrats have worried about the prospect of a more disciplined heir to Trump. In Florida’s pugilistic governor, that candidate may have arrived......

 

 

......The perceived inevitability of a 2024 clash can almost cloud the remarkable risk that DeSantis would be taking. While Trump habitually overstates his importance to endorsees, his role in DeSantis’s arc is undisputed, leaving the governor vulnerable to credible claims of disloyalty. Trump has called him ungrateful in private, while publicly swiping at “gutless” politicians (like, say, Ron DeSantis) who refuse to discuss their Covid booster status. (A Trump spokesman did not respond to a request for comment.)

 

https://nyti.ms/3eGLqgW

 

[Doc]

Like I said, they'll tie every Repub to Trump for as long as they can.  He's the boogiest...

[Orlando Tim]

10 hours ago, BillStime said:

No WAY

 

 

The Miami herald and Orlando Sentinel are the same, if you can't find real "white supremacists" start referring to Hispanics and blacks as white supremacists. I do though believe the antisemitism is happening especially in the deep blue parts of our state 

[BillsFanNC]

 

 

[Doc]

They can hang with Barry and Chelle.

[BillStime]

3 hours ago, Orlando Tim said:

The Miami herald and Orlando Sentinel are the same, if you can't find real "white supremacists" start referring to Hispanics and blacks as white supremacists. I do though believe the antisemitism is happening especially in the deep blue parts of our state 

Yea right.
 

Why did you change you name?

 

lmao

[Orlando Tim]

6 hours ago, BillStime said:

Yea right.
 

Why did you change you name?

 

lmao

I have now lived 21 years on Orlando, seemed more appropriate.

[Backintheday544]

10 hours ago, DRsGhost said:

 

 

This really shows the difference between liberals and the right.

 

State Rep. Dylan Fernandes, who represents Martha's Vineyard, tweeted: "Our island jumped into action putting together 50 beds, giving everyone a good meal, providing a play area for the children, making sure people have the healthcare and support they need. We are a community that comes together to support immigrants."

 

“‘People were just showing up (at the church) with food, rice and beans,’ she said. ‘When something happens to our island, we come together to help. We are going to take care of these people.’
 

It’s amazing to see these great people support their fellow man. You shall also love the stranger, for you were strangers in the land of Egypt.
Deuteronomy 10:19
 

On the other hand, it’s down right inhuman of DeSantis to use people, actual people, as political props. Dude is going to hell.

 

Congressman Bill Keating, who represents Martha’s Vineyard, said in a tweet, “History does not look kindly on leaders who treat human beings like cargo, loading them up and sending them a thousand miles away without telling them their destination. Still, Florida @GovRonDeSantis made that choice today.”

[BillsFanNC]

3 minutes ago, Backintheday544 said:

This really shows the difference between liberals and the right.

 

State Rep. Dylan Fernandes, who represents Martha's Vineyard, tweeted: "Our island jumped into action putting together 50 beds, giving everyone a good meal, providing a play area for the children, making sure people have the healthcare and support they need. We are a community that comes together to support immigrants."

 

“‘People were just showing up (at the church) with food, rice and beans,’ she said. ‘When something happens to our island, we come together to help. We are going to take care of these people.’
 

It’s amazing to see these great people support their fellow man. You shall also love the stranger, for you were strangers in the land of Egypt.
Deuteronomy 10:19
 

On the other hand, it’s down right inhuman of DeSantis to use people, actual people, as political props. Dude is going to hell.

 

Congressman Bill Keating, who represents Martha’s Vineyard, said in a tweet, “History does not look kindly on leaders who treat human beings like cargo, loading them up and sending them a thousand miles away without telling them their destination. Still, Florida @GovRonDeSantis made that choice today.”

 

When the federal government refuses to enforce its own laws these are the type of stunts that are necessary.

 

Of course they jumped into action when 50 people who came to this country illegally showed up pn their doorstep on ONE day.

 

What happens when 50 show up everyday for the next year?

 

Then Martha's Vineyard will be feeling that strain that border towns have been feeling for quite some time.

 

Of course congressman Keating makes not a peep of the 1000s of dangerous miles these migrants trekked with the help of drug cartels and human traffickers because our current federal leadership encourages this behavior in violation of federal law.

 

This political stunt serves to showcase massive liberal hypocrisy. As usual. 

[BillsFanNC]

Bus load of illegals dropped off in front of Kamala's house in DC this morning.

 

 

Fantastic. 

 

 

Edited September 15, 2022 by DRsGhost

[Backintheday544]

26 minutes ago, DRsGhost said:

 

When the federal government refuses to enforce its own laws these are the type of stunts that are necessary.

 

Of course they jumped into action when 50 people who came to this country illegally showed up pn their doorstep on ONE day.

 

What happens when 50 show up everyday for the next year?

 

Then Martha's Vineyard will be feeling that strain that border towns have been feeling for quite some time.

 

Of course congressman Keating makes not a peep of the 1000s of dangerous miles these migrants trekked with the help of drug cartels and human traffickers because our current federal leadership encourages this behavior in violation of federal law.

 

This political stunt serves to showcase massive liberal hypocrisy. As usual. 

I was eyes to the blind, and feet to the lame. I was a father to the needy, and I championed the cause of the stranger. I broke the fangs of the unrighteous, and made them drop their prey from their teeth.
Job 29:15-17

 

Republicans are just a bunch of godless heathens. If you can’t find the horror of transporting people across state lines where they don’t know where they’re going and doing it for the sole reason that you want to use people as a prop, so sick.

 

The fact that you find it funny will just cement your place in that nice warm place when you pass.

[BillsFanNC]

15 minutes ago, Backintheday544 said:

I was eyes to the blind, and feet to the lame. I was a father to the needy, and I championed the cause of the stranger. I broke the fangs of the unrighteous, and made them drop their prey from their teeth.
Job 29:15-17

 

Republicans are just a bunch of godless heathens. If you can’t find the horror of transporting people across state lines where they don’t know where they’re going and doing it for the sole reason that you want to use people as a prop, so sick.

 

The fact that you find it funny will just cement your place in that nice warm place when you pass.

 

Right. They wanted to come to the USA.  Illegally.  They are still in the USA among people who largely advocate for ignoring THE LAW by keeping our borders OPEN.

 

They are in Martha's Vineyard for heavans sake. The horror!

 

Spare us the false outrage.

 

And you ignored the question. What happens if 50 migrants show up daily in MV for weeks, months or years on end?

 

Will those fine people in MV also find a "nice warm place when they pass" when they reach their breaking point and begin diverting these people elsewhere?

Edited September 15, 2022 by DRsGhost

[Backintheday544]

11 minutes ago, DRsGhost said:

 

Right. They wanted to come to the USA.  Illegally.  They are still in the USA among people who largely advocate for ignoring THE LAW by keeping our borders OPEN.

 

They are in Martha's Vineyard for heavans sake. The horror!

 

Spare us the false outrage.

 

And you ignored the question. What happens if 50 migrants show up daily in MV for weeks, months or years on end?

 

Will those fine people in MV also find a "nice warm place when they pass" when they reach their breaking point and begin diverting these people elsewhere?

Yes they will. The churches have been doing a great job helping them so far. Plus with a worker shortage hopefully they’ll be able to train those who want to work to help fill those voids.

 

This all boils down to a simple fact. You’re absolutely inhuman if you think it’s fine to ship people across the country against their will as a political ploy. Goes against all the teachings of the church as well.

[Backintheday544]

40 minutes ago, DRsGhost said:

Bus load of illegals dropped off in front of Kamala's house in DC this morning.

 

 

Fantastic. 

 

 

DeSantis must have seen the polls:

 

https://floridapolitics.com/archives/555548-kamala-harris-continues-to-edge-ron-desantis-in-hypothetical-2024-polling/

 

September’s Harvard-Harris Poll again posed the question of who respondents would choose in a theoretical matchup between DeSantis and Vice President Kamala Harris. As in previous months, DeSantis trailed the California Democrat.

Harris drew 41% support, with DeSantis commanding 38% backing, and a remaining 21% of respondents unsure.

[BillsFanNC]

2 minutes ago, Backintheday544 said:

Yes they will. The churches have been doing a great job helping them so far. Plus with a worker shortage hopefully they’ll be able to train those who want to work to help fill those voids.

 

This all boils down to a simple fact. You’re absolutely inhuman if you think it’s fine to ship people across the country against their will as a political ploy. Goes against all the teachings of the church as well.

 

The simple fact that you think that people who arent citizens AND break the law get to choose their final destination once they arrive is laughable. 

 

You're also delusional if you think MV will put up with this indefinitely.  These 50 people absolutely will not remain in MV long term. 

 

And again you ignore the peril these people are in just trying to get here in the first place. Many die trying to get here because our current administration encourages this illegal behavior. Our "leadership" in DC are Inhuman with blood on their hands.

 

Finally, keeping the borders open and free flowing since Jan 2020 is a political ploy. These governors are just playing in kind.

[716er]

Why doesn't DeSantis raid the businesses that hire illegals in his non-border state of Florida?

[BillsFanNC]

And the ***** stain @716er chimes in.

 

Hopefully he has taken my advice and put me on ignore in order to escape the "harassment"

 

Yep. Hypocrites. 

 

 

[BillsFanNC]

Yes.

 

 

[Backintheday544]

1 hour ago, DRsGhost said:

 

The simple fact that you think that people who arent citizens AND break the law get to choose their final destination once they arrive is laughable. 

 

You're also delusional if you think MV will put up with this indefinitely.  These 50 people absolutely will not remain in MV long term. 

 

And again you ignore the peril these people are in just trying to get here in the first place. Many die trying to get here because our current administration encourages this illegal behavior. Our "leadership" in DC are Inhuman with blood on their hands.

 

Finally, keeping the borders open and free flowing since Jan 2020 is a political ploy. These governors are just playing in kind.

The simple fact is this was done for nothing more than a political stunt. If you’re okay with using people for political gain while you poll worse than Kamala Harris that’s between you and your God. It’s down right inhuman.

 

Democratic Sen. Ed Markey of Massachusetts said DeSantis "could learn a lesson from Massachusetts on what patriotism and liberty really look like if he weren't so busy using humans as props in a cruel stunt to buoy his pathetic political aspirations."

 

 

[BillsFanNC]

3 minutes ago, Backintheday544 said:

The simple fact is this was done for nothing more than a political stunt. If you’re okay with using people for political gain while you poll worse than Kamala Harris that’s between you and your God. It’s down right inhuman.

 

Democratic Sen. Ed Markey of Massachusetts said DeSantis "could learn a lesson from Massachusetts on what patriotism and liberty really look like if he weren't so busy using humans as props in a cruel stunt to buoy his pathetic political aspirations."

 

 

 

Keeping the borders wide open in the first place is a 18 month long political stunt involving these very same human beings.

 

Let's get down to the root of the entire issue.

 

Are you for open borders like we have right now. Thousands of people walking across the border every single day. Do you support it?

Edited September 15, 2022 by DRsGhost

[aristocrat]

4 minutes ago, Backintheday544 said:

The simple fact is this was done for nothing more than a political stunt. If you’re okay with using people for political gain while you poll worse than Kamala Harris that’s between you and your God. It’s down right inhuman.

 

Democratic Sen. Ed Markey of Massachusetts said DeSantis "could learn a lesson from Massachusetts on what patriotism and liberty really look like if he weren't so busy using humans as props in a cruel stunt to buoy his pathetic political aspirations."

 

 

The left calls Florida and Texas shitholes. So the immigrants are being flown to nice liberal cities. What’s the problem? It’s all how you frame the narrative. 

[BillsFanNC]

This is El Paso, TX.

 

Why can't you do your part to help your fellow Americans, blue sanctuary cities?

 

 

[aristocrat]

It’s perfect. Imagine the houses they were in down in Honduras? Yikes. 

[Greg S]

2 hours ago, Backintheday544 said:

DeSantis must have seen the polls:

 

https://floridapolitics.com/archives/555548-kamala-harris-continues-to-edge-ron-desantis-in-hypothetical-2024-polling/

 

September’s Harvard-Harris Poll again posed the question of who respondents would choose in a theoretical matchup between DeSantis and Vice President Kamala Harris. As in previous months, DeSantis trailed the California Democrat.

Harris drew 41% support, with DeSantis commanding 38% backing, and a remaining 21% of respondents unsure.

 

Are these the same polls who said Hillary would beat Trump? I don't care what side people are on politically. Everyone knows the media lies and polls can't be trusted. 

[BillStime]

 

[Backintheday544]

32 minutes ago, Greg S said:

 

Are these the same polls who said Hillary would beat Trump? I don't care what side people are on politically. Everyone knows the media lies and polls can't be trusted. 

No they’re the same polls that said Biden would beat Trump even though Trump supporters did boat parades. Everyone knows the Trump boat parades can’t be trusted.

1 hour ago, DRsGhost said:

 

Keeping the borders wide open in the first place is a 18 month long political stunt involving these very same human beings.

 

Let's get down to the root of the entire issue.

 

Are you for open borders like we have right now. Thousands of people walking across the border every single day. Do you support it?

Ahh good old MAGA Republican with the whataboutism.

 

Is shipping people to an unknown location for a political stunt inhuman? That’s the question here.

1 hour ago, aristocrat said:

The left calls Florida and Texas shitholes. So the immigrants are being flown to nice liberal cities. What’s the problem? It’s all how you frame the narrative. 

The problem is a politician shipping humans to unknown locations against their will all for a political stunt.

 

Inhuman, not Christian, and down right evil.

[Tiberius]

1 hour ago, aristocrat said:

The left calls Florida and Texas shitholes. So the immigrants are being flown to nice liberal cities. What’s the problem? It’s all how you frame the narrative. 

No, those are nice states, for the most part. And shipping more immigrants into the middle of the country is a good long term situation. Keep them coming! 

 

The more Americans the better! 

[Greg S]

1 minute ago, Backintheday544 said:

No they’re the same polls that said Biden would beat Trump even though Trump supporters did boat parades. Everyone knows the Trump boat parades can’t be trusted.

 

When it comes to politics nothing can be trusted with the media or polls. I have seen so many "news reports" about a red wave or blue wave for these upcoming midterms. I will vote and then wait and see what the results will be. As for a 2024 prediction it is pointless as a lot can happen between now and then.

[BillsFanNC]

2 minutes ago, Backintheday544 said:

No they’re the same polls that said Biden would beat Trump even though Trump supporters did boat parades. Everyone knows the Trump boat parades can’t be trusted.

Ahh good old MAGA Republican with the whataboutism.

 

Is shipping people to an unknown location for a political stunt inhuman? That’s the question here.

 

A good leftist not answering the root cause question. And responding whataboutism! 

 

You're damn right it is. What. About. Principles.

 

Are you for maintaining the status quo at our southern border?

 

Yes or no?

[Tiberius]

38 minutes ago, Greg S said:

 

Are these the same polls who said Hillary would beat Trump? I don't care what side people are on politically. Everyone knows the media lies and polls can't be trusted. 

You mean all these MAGA people posting polls on Biden and wrong? 

[Greg S]

Just now, Tiberius said:

You mean all these MAGA people posting polls on Biden and wrong? 

 

We will find out what people really think this Nov. I won't guess on 2024 as that is a long way off.

[aristocrat]

5 minutes ago, Backintheday544 said:

No they’re the same polls that said Biden would beat Trump even though Trump supporters did boat parades. Everyone knows the Trump boat parades can’t be trusted.

Ahh good old MAGA Republican with the whataboutism.

 

Is shipping people to an unknown location for a political stunt inhuman? That’s the question here.

The problem is a politician shipping humans to unknown locations against their will all for a political stunt.

 

Inhuman, not Christian, and down right evil.

 

They flew on planes, then on air conditioned buses, were fed and taken care of. It's much better than the way they were treated by coyotes who don't care if they starve or die along the route. I've traveled worse on team buses in high school. Please. Now, the dems need to stop enticing them to make the trip over the border so they stop dying on the way. 

[BillsFanNC]

5 minutes ago, Greg S said:

 

When it comes to politics nothing can be trusted with the media or polls. I have seen so many "news reports" about a red wave or blue wave for these upcoming midterms. I will vote and then wait and see what the results will be. As for a 2024 prediction it is pointless as a lot can happen between now and then.

 

Trump was going to lose Wisconsin by double digits, remember?

 

If you believe that Kamala Harris, the VP with absolutely abysmal approaching high 20s approval ratings, is polling better than Ron DeSantis, then you just might be a liberal hack. 

 

Just maybe.

 

Edited September 15, 2022 by DRsGhost

[Greg S]

Just now, DRsGhost said:

 

Trump was going to lose Wisconson by double digits, remember?

 

If you believe that Kamala Harris, the VP with absolutely abysmal approaching high 20s approval ratings, is polling better than Ron DeSantis, then you just might be a liberal hack. 

 

Just maybe.

 

 

I am not a Dem and I hope its DeSantis in 2024. Biden and Harris are the worst administration ever. I do think the Republicans will win the midterms especially the House. I can't stand Pelosi. 

[BillsFanNC]

1 minute ago, Greg S said:

 

I am not a Dem and I hope its DeSantis in 2024. Biden and Harris are the worst administration ever. I do think the Republicans will win the midterms especially the House. I can't stand Pelosi. 

 

I know. I was just using your response to @Backintheday544 to reinforce how absolutely wrong most of these polls have been for quite some time.

Edited September 15, 2022 by DRsGhost