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The difference in health between democratic vs republican areas apparently is a real issue. I remember hearing about it recently on radio. I would think that as more laws impacting our health get shifted from federal level to state level, that the disparity in the health gap will widen. 

 

https://www.forbes.com/sites/madelinehalpert/2022/06/07/republican-counties-have-higher-mortality-rates-than-democratic-ones-study-finds/?sh=7fbeefb65c6a

 

https://www.npr.org/2022/06/13/1104529561/the-partisan-divide-can-undermine-americans-health-researchers-say

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58 minutes ago, Andy1 said:

The difference in health between democratic vs republican areas apparently is a real issue. I remember hearing about it recently on radio. I would think that as more laws impacting our health get shifted from federal level to state level, that the disparity in the health gap will widen. 

 

https://www.forbes.com/sites/madelinehalpert/2022/06/07/republican-counties-have-higher-mortality-rates-than-democratic-ones-study-finds/?sh=7fbeefb65c6a

 

https://www.npr.org/2022/06/13/1104529561/the-partisan-divide-can-undermine-americans-health-researchers-say


Really makes it hard to believe the GOP actually is “pro-life” since they oppose policies that help people live. 

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54 minutes ago, ChiGoose said:


Really makes it hard to believe the GOP actually is “pro-life” since they oppose policies that help people live. 


They have selective outrage 

 

High Insulin cost = CAPITALISM

 

High gas prices = BRANDON‼️‼️‼️

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2 hours ago, ChiGoose said:
 

‘MURICA!

 

 

 

 

ANOTHER ASPECT OF THE DEMOCRAT DISASTER: DRUG PRICE CONTROLS

 

 

We have not yet taken the measure of the disaster that is the Democrats’ “Inflation Reduction Act,” perhaps the most absurdly named statute ever. One element of the law that has not gotten enough attention is its imposition of price controls on pharmaceuticals. Price controls are always, and everywhere, a terrible idea. When you apply price controls to a vital product like drugs, the results could be catastrophic.

 

At Real Clear Policy, my colleague Peter Nelson, who worked at the Centers for Medicare & Medicaid Services in the Trump administration, where he was in charge of price transparency initiatives, explains:

 

I coauthored a new report with my colleague John Phelan at Center of the American Experiment which highlights how drug price controls would weaken the U.S. drug industry’s global leadership position and give China the opportunity to control greater market share to advance their national interests.

 

The package of price controls in the budget reconciliation bill would require Medicare to set prices for certain high-cost drugs and require drug manufacturers to pay rebates to the federal government when price increases exceed inflation. It uses the term “negotiation,” but it operates as a strict price control. That’s because excessive penalties on drug manufacturers for not negotiating make it a negotiation drug companies can’t refuse. Meanwhile, the inflation rebates impose price controls on nearly all drugs covered by Medicare Part D, as well as brand drugs and biologics covered by Medicare Part B.

 

Europe’s drug manufacturing industry used to be the global leader, but this leadership position eroded over the past three decades and the U.S. now stands on top.

 

Over the most recent five-year period from 2016 to 2020, the U.S. accounted for 138 of the new chemical and biological drug entities, followed by Europe at 64. Twenty years ago, Europe was on top.

 

The budget reconciliation bill’s strict price controls create a serious risk that the U.S. drug industry might follow in Europe’s footsteps.

 

To the benefit of–who else?–China. Much more at the link, and especially in the linked report.

 

 

 

https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2022/08/another-aspect-of-the-dem-disaster-drug-price-controls.php

 

https://www.realclearpolicy.com/articles/2022/08/05/drug_price_controls_will_embolden_china_at_your_expense_846562.html

 

https://files.americanexperiment.org/wp-content/uploads/2022/07/Drug-Pricing-Report-Final.pdf

 

 

 

 

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3 hours ago, B-Man said:

 

 

 

ANOTHER ASPECT OF THE DEMOCRAT DISASTER: DRUG PRICE CONTROLS

 

 

We have not yet taken the measure of the disaster that is the Democrats’ “Inflation Reduction Act,” perhaps the most absurdly named statute ever. One element of the law that has not gotten enough attention is its imposition of price controls on pharmaceuticals. Price controls are always, and everywhere, a terrible idea. When you apply price controls to a vital product like drugs, the results could be catastrophic.

 

At Real Clear Policy, my colleague Peter Nelson, who worked at the Centers for Medicare & Medicaid Services in the Trump administration, where he was in charge of price transparency initiatives, explains:

 

I coauthored a new report with my colleague John Phelan at Center of the American Experiment which highlights how drug price controls would weaken the U.S. drug industry’s global leadership position and give China the opportunity to control greater market share to advance their national interests.

 

The package of price controls in the budget reconciliation bill would require Medicare to set prices for certain high-cost drugs and require drug manufacturers to pay rebates to the federal government when price increases exceed inflation. It uses the term “negotiation,” but it operates as a strict price control. That’s because excessive penalties on drug manufacturers for not negotiating make it a negotiation drug companies can’t refuse. Meanwhile, the inflation rebates impose price controls on nearly all drugs covered by Medicare Part D, as well as brand drugs and biologics covered by Medicare Part B.

 

Europe’s drug manufacturing industry used to be the global leader, but this leadership position eroded over the past three decades and the U.S. now stands on top.

 

Over the most recent five-year period from 2016 to 2020, the U.S. accounted for 138 of the new chemical and biological drug entities, followed by Europe at 64. Twenty years ago, Europe was on top.

 

The budget reconciliation bill’s strict price controls create a serious risk that the U.S. drug industry might follow in Europe’s footsteps.

 

To the benefit of–who else?–China. Much more at the link, and especially in the linked report.

 

 

 

https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2022/08/another-aspect-of-the-dem-disaster-drug-price-controls.php

 

https://www.realclearpolicy.com/articles/2022/08/05/drug_price_controls_will_embolden_china_at_your_expense_846562.html

 

https://files.americanexperiment.org/wp-content/uploads/2022/07/Drug-Pricing-Report-Final.pdf

 

 

 

 

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Hey, if you want to shill for big pharma, you go ahead and do that. Personally, I think that Americans should have access to life saving medicine if they need it. 

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10 hours ago, ChiGoose said:


Hey, if you want to shill for big pharma, you go ahead and do that. Personally, I think that Americans should have access to life saving medicine if they need it. 

 

 

No.

 

Information is information.

 

If it upsets your bias, then don't read it.

 

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The average American insulin user spent $3490 on insulin in 2018 compared with $725 among Canadians. Over the study period, the average cost per unit of insulin in the United States increased by 10.3% compared with only 0.01% in Canada. Feb 9, 2022

 

https://www.mayoclinicproceedings.org/article/S0025-6196(21)00883-1/fulltext#:~:text=The average American insulin user,with only 0.01% in Canada.

 

For one patient, a three-month supply of insulin is $3,700 in the U.S. versus $600 in Mexico.    Feb 12, 2019

Americans Cross Border Into Mexico To Buy Insulin At A Fraction Of U.S. Cost

 

The U.S. government estimates that close to 1 million people in California alone cross to Mexico annually for health care, including to buy prescription drugs. And between 150,000 and 320,000 Americans list health care as a reason for traveling abroad each year. Cost savings is the most commonly cited reason.

 

In Utah last year, the Public Employee Health Plan took this idea to a new level with its voluntary Pharmacy Tourism Program. For certain PEHP members who use any of 13 costly prescription medications — including the popular arthritis drug Humira — the insurer will foot the bill to fly the patient and a companion to San Diego, then drive them to a hospital in Tijuana, Mexico, to pick up a 90-day supply of medicine.

 


“The average cost of an eligible drug in the US is over $4,500 per month and is 40-60% less in Mexico,” PEHP clinical services director Travis Tolley said in an announcement of the program in October.

 

According to the Food and Drug Administration, “in most circumstances, it is illegal for individuals to import drugs into the United States for personal use.” But the agency’s website does provide guidance about when it could be allowed. And the U.S. Customs and Border Protection’s website has a whole section on traveling with medications in its “Know Before You Go” guide.

 

https://khn.org/news/americans-cross-border-into-mexico-to-buy-insulin-at-a-fraction-of-u-s-cost/#:~:text=For one patient%2C a three,U.S. versus %24600 in Mexico.

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On 8/8/2022 at 4:51 PM, reddogblitz said:

 

I think people with medical issues due to the consumption of alcohol should pay more.

I’m with you.  Gluttons, drunks, and the unvaccinated should pay more for avoidable medical conditions.  Smokers, too.  Need a new lung because you sucked down Senecas for a few decades?  Not my problem.  Donate some money to science to see if it can grow a pig lung for you.  Same thing with the COVID vax.  Don’t want the vax and want to play a little MAGA roulette?  Go for it.  Just don’t go to a hospital, take a bed from someone else, and exhaust Medicaid dollars when your lungs turn into glue.  

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On 8/18/2022 at 1:35 PM, SectionC3 said:

I’m with you.  Gluttons, drunks, and the unvaccinated should pay more for avoidable medical conditions.  Smokers, too.  Need a new lung because you sucked down Senecas for a few decades?  Not my problem.  Donate some money to science to see if it can grow a pig lung for you.  Same thing with the COVID vax.  Don’t want the vax and want to play a little MAGA roulette?  Go for it.  Just don’t go to a hospital, take a bed from someone else, and exhaust Medicaid dollars when your lungs turn into glue.  

With a sense of irony, I'd like to point out many posters exhibiting the same authoritarian tendencies and a lack of empathy that is typically assigned to "MAGA" people. 

 

 

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31 minutes ago, All_Pro_Bills said:

With a sense of irony, I'd like to point out many posters exhibiting the same authoritarian tendencies and a lack of empathy that is typically assigned to "MAGA" people. 

 

 

Hoax.  There’s nothing authoritarian or missing in empathy here.  I just want to make sure all these MAGA members practice what they preach.  Rugged individualism.  Don’t come to the government for socialism bucks when the going gets tough with your diabetes and lung cancer.  Take your Ivermectin and tough it out. 

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REPUBLICANS HAVE TRIED FOR THIS FOR YEARS, ONLY TO BE BLOCKED BY DEMOCRATS: 

 

Clinicians React to Over-the-Counter Birth Control Possibility.

 

Doctors may soon play much less of a part in prescribing birth control, and many are okay with the reduced role.

In July, HRA Pharma submitted an application to the Food and Drug Administration to sell a progestin-based birth control pill without a prescription in retail pharmacies. 

 

"The fact that this pill is so safe, with such a short list of contraindications, it's a total no-brainer to figure out whether they are eligible or not," Daniel Grossman, MD, director of the Advancing New Standards in Reproductive Health program at the University of California, San Francisco, said.

 

 

https://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/979919

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The cult loves to lie and sugarcoat everything:

 

Reality:

 

The top 10 poorest states are RED


The top 10 states with the highest crime rates? Also RED.

 

The top 13 states that receive an average of $470 Billion in federal tax than they pay are ALL RED STATES. Blue states constantly pay more; receive less; and fund these RED WELFARE states.


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On 9/6/2022 at 8:22 AM, BillStime said:

Reality:

 

The top 10 poorest states are RED


The top 10 states with the highest crime rates? Also RED.

 

The top 13 states that receive an average of $470 Billion in federal tax than they pay are ALL RED STATES. Blue states constantly pay more; receive less; and fund these RED WELFARE states.

Also - On average people living in blue counties are also healthier than those living in red  counties. People in Connecticut live an average of five YEARS longer than those in Oklahoma. This report is before the impacts of anti abortion laws kick in likely negatively impacting womens health. I’m sure the MAGA crowd is happy to have the freedom to die earlier.

 

See: https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/people-in-republican-counties-have-higher-death-rates-than-those-in-democratic-counties/

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