Name a Right Wing Position

[BillStime]

 

 

[BillStime]

"...control what we read and teach our children and deny our history.... censure debate..."

 

Meanwhile:

• GQP wants to deny 1/6
• GQP pass laws that control transgender children and restrict how we teach race in schools...
• GQP = cult = facsists

The hypocrisy... lmao

 

[B-Man]

 

 

A Conservative position is "Staying Informed.

 

VIEWERS OF CONSERVATIVE MEDIA MORE LIKELY TO GET THE FACTS RIGHT ON TOPICS IN THE NEWS

 

If you ever assumed that Americans who watch or listen to conservative news outlets are better informed on topics in the news, you would be correct.

That is not anecdotal.

 

According to a new poll conducted by Rasmussen Reports for The Heartland Institute, “There is a strong correlation between a likely voter’s favorite television news outlet and his or her understanding of basic facts about important topics in the news.”

 

The poll asked 1,000 likely voters a series of questions about a wide variety of news events and which news outlets they prefer.

 

Here are a few overall highlights from the poll.

 

“Generally speaking, respondents who identified CNN, MSNBC, ABC, CBS, or NBC as their ‘favorite’ TV news outlet were more likely to incorrectly answer questions about the national debt, the income tax rate paid by the wealthy, and the percentage of the population that’s uninsured than the viewers of Fox News or ‘another’ cable or network news station (such as The Blaze TV or Newsmax).”

 

“Our survey also seems to indicate that those who do not watch cable news or network news are more likely to answer our questions about the news accurately than the viewers of CNN, MSNBC, ABC, CBS, or NBC.”

 

“Although viewers of Fox News and other cable networks were most likely to correctly select the percentage of the U.S. population without health care coverage, a sizeable percentage of these audiences also underestimated the size of the insured population (82%).”

 

By far, the biggest takeaway from the poll is that one’s knowledge about factual news events is directly correlated with their media preferences. And vice-versa.

 

For instance, when likely voters were asked what the national debt of the United States currently stands at (answer: $28 trillion), “69% of CBS viewers and 65% of NBC viewers underestimated the national debt, compared to 44% for those who said they don’t watch network news.”

 

More at the linK:

https://www.heartland.org/news-opinion/news/rasmussenheartland-poll-news

 

 

 

 

[TH3]

38 minutes ago, B-Man said:

 

 

A Conservative position is "Staying Informed.

 

VIEWERS OF CONSERVATIVE MEDIA MORE LIKELY TO GET THE FACTS RIGHT ON TOPICS IN THE NEWS

 

If you ever assumed that Americans who watch or listen to conservative news outlets are better informed on topics in the news, you would be correct.

That is not anecdotal.

 

According to a new poll conducted by Rasmussen Reports for The Heartland Institute, “There is a strong correlation between a likely voter’s favorite television news outlet and his or her understanding of basic facts about important topics in the news.”

 

The poll asked 1,000 likely voters a series of questions about a wide variety of news events and which news outlets they prefer.

 

Here are a few overall highlights from the poll.

 

“Generally speaking, respondents who identified CNN, MSNBC, ABC, CBS, or NBC as their ‘favorite’ TV news outlet were more likely to incorrectly answer questions about the national debt, the income tax rate paid by the wealthy, and the percentage of the population that’s uninsured than the viewers of Fox News or ‘another’ cable or network news station (such as The Blaze TV or Newsmax).”

 

“Our survey also seems to indicate that those who do not watch cable news or network news are more likely to answer our questions about the news accurately than the viewers of CNN, MSNBC, ABC, CBS, or NBC.”

 

“Although viewers of Fox News and other cable networks were most likely to correctly select the percentage of the U.S. population without health care coverage, a sizeable percentage of these audiences also underestimated the size of the insured population (82%).”

 

By far, the biggest takeaway from the poll is that one’s knowledge about factual news events is directly correlated with their media preferences. And vice-versa.

 

For instance, when likely voters were asked what the national debt of the United States currently stands at (answer: $28 trillion), “69% of CBS viewers and 65% of NBC viewers underestimated the national debt, compared to 44% for those who said they don’t watch network news.”

 

More at the linK:

https://www.heartland.org/news-opinion/news/rasmussenheartland-poll-news

 

 

 

 

Dude...what a joke...."right wing media say they are factual...because they say they are"

[B-Man]

6 minutes ago, TH3 said:

Dude...what a joke...."right wing media say they are factual...because they say they are"

 

 

Your comprehension is sh*t today.

 

They polled people on facts.  

 

The ones who got the most right were Conservatives.

 

FTA:

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By far, the biggest takeaway from the poll is that one’s knowledge about factual news events is directly correlated with their media preferences. And vice-versa.

 

 

 

[BillStime]

 

[JaCrispy]

On 5/20/2021 at 3:06 PM, B-Man said:

 

 

Your comprehension is sh*t today.

 

They polled people on facts.  

 

The ones who got the most right were Conservatives.

 

FTA:

 

I guess TH3 just gave you yet another example, validating the poll...😉

Edited May 24, 2021 by JaCrispy

[Tiberius]

On 5/20/2021 at 2:57 PM, TH3 said:

Dude...what a joke...."right wing media say they are factual...because they say they are"

Well, these are the same people that listen to Trump and believe him, so...

[T master]

On 5/20/2021 at 11:14 AM, BillStime said:

"...control what we read and teach our children and deny our history.... censure debate..."

 

Meanwhile:

• GQP wants to deny 1/6
• GQP pass laws that control transgender children and restrict how we teach race in schools...
• GQP = cult = facsists

The hypocrisy... lmao

 

 

So by what you post above the video i would like to ask just exactly what are those people trying to deny as far as our history and please tell me to the transgender reply exactly what age of a child is old enough for them to make a life altering decision as far as their gender ?

 

Children are not allowed to drive until the age of 16, they are not allowed to drink until the age of 21, they are not allowed to buy tobacco until the age of 21, they are not allowed to vote until the age of 18, they are not allowed to join the military until the age of 18, they are not allowed to make a decision of consensual sex with a adult until the age of 18 i believe and all of these are for good reason !!

 

Yet by what you posted you apparently believe that they can make the decision of who or what gender they want to be by what age ?

 

And to add is their decision to based upon what they are being told or what is known to all of how we are created weather you believe in a god or not ? 

 

Just asking i would like a little clarification thank you so much for helping me understand your reply above ...

[SoCal Deek]

36 minutes ago, Tiberius said:

Well, these are the same people that listen to Trump and believe him, so...

Well are these the same people that listen to Tibs and believe him?

[All_Pro_Bills]

On 5/16/2021 at 10:32 PM, Backintheday544 said:

I framed the OP as they’re not hypocrites on for your points:

 

1. Pro-life - are they? They’re more pro being born. After that fend for yourself. Is that really pro-life? It boils down to whether or not you support the concept that abortion in some cases is equivalent to homicide. 
 

2. protecting gun rights - what are they protecting? Who had tried taking guns?  For one, through "red flag" gun laws which in a recent case the Supreme Court ruled as unconstitutional in a 9-0 vote.

 

3. Border security - Obama removed more unlawful immigrants than Bush and they said he was weak on border security. That’s more of a buzz word than a position I’d say  What relevance does Bush have now?  Biden completely dismantled all border security that was put in place under the Trump administration and replaced it with a system of chaos.  Total FUBAR.   If you can't "see" this then God help you.

 

4. Cultural anti-Wokism... can we even define that? Like imagine being a Lincoln standing up on a podium and saying I’m running on cultural anti-wokism 

Things like safe spaces, hate for our country, defund the police and embrace criminals as victims, but mainly encouraging a culture of emotionally and mentally weak pussies. 

 

From your next para It seems maybe you think wokeism is cancel cultural maybe? Republicans deal in cancel culture all the time. They wanted to cancel MLB for moving an all star game. They wasted millions on a political stunt to have Pence walk out on an NFL game. 

One other value I saw was a campaign slogan I saw "Make Crime Illegal Again".   I'd say that's a right wing value.

[BillStime]

23 minutes ago, T master said:

 

So by what you post above the video i would like to ask just exactly what are those people trying to deny as far as our history and please tell me to the transgender reply exactly what age of a child is old enough for them to make a life altering decision as far as their gender ?

 

Children are not allowed to drive until the age of 16, they are not allowed to drink until the age of 21, they are not allowed to buy tobacco until the age of 21, they are not allowed to vote until the age of 18, they are not allowed to join the military until the age of 18, they are not allowed to make a decision of consensual sex with a adult until the age of 18 i believe and all of these are for good reason !!

 

Yet by what you posted you apparently believe that they can make the decision of who or what gender they want to be by what age ?

 

And to add is their decision to based upon what they are being told or what is known to all of how we are created weather you believe in a god or not ? 

 

Just asking i would like a little clarification thank you so much for helping me understand your reply above ...

 

Why don't you do some research and ask the parents that helped make this incredibly difficult decision in accordance to laws and medical professionals?

 

 

 

 

 

[JaCrispy]

Capital Punishment

[All_Pro_Bills]

2 hours ago, BillStime said:

 

Why don't you do some research and ask the parents that helped make this incredibly difficult decision in accordance to laws and medical professionals?

 

 

 

 

 

A child's mind and body are not developed enough for them to make this kind of life changing decision.  And parents that encourage or facilitate such transformations at a young age are negligent and absent in their responsibilities as parents.  For many reasons, including psychological. buyers remorse is extremely high in sex change surgeries.  That comes straight from the transgender community and from medical practitioners.  Look it up. 

[BillStime]

53 minutes ago, All_Pro_Bills said:

A child's mind and body are not developed enough for them to make this kind of life changing decision.  And parents that encourage or facilitate such transformations at a young age are negligent and absent in their responsibilities as parents.  For many reasons, including psychological. buyers remorse is extremely high in sex change surgeries.  That comes straight from the transgender community and from medical practitioners.  Look it up. 

 

I'm not advocating it... but you're kidding yourself if you think families are making this decision lightly.

Edited May 24, 2021 by BillStime

[Capco]

On 4/25/2021 at 9:54 PM, Buffarukus said:

the right to peacefully assemble.

 

the right to bear arms.

 

the concern about boarder security 

 

the right for individuals to go outside and have a buisness that the government does not shut down.

 

Just wanted to say thank you for starting this thread off with some good material to work with.  

[Capco]

On 4/25/2021 at 10:34 PM, Buffarukus said:

that cant happen by either side so keep kicking the can including adding more debt nationally to "fix" the crisis of [ insert name ]

 

The United States happens to be in a very unique position in the world with respect to currency.  The US Dollar is the reserve currency of the world.  What that effectively means is that there will always be an inordinate amount of demand for the greenback.  Any time a foreign currency transaction occurs it can be thought of as one party buying the other party's money with their own money.  One reason inflation is never a very big problem in the US is because of this demand for dollars.  Look at the rates of inflation by year over the last 20 years; inflation has not gone anywhere close to out of control despite a massive expansion of the money supply.  

 

We'd be stupid not to use this unique position to our advantage.  It's also one of the main reasons why China manipulates their own currency.  They want the Yen Yuan to challenge the dollar as a reserve currency, if not globally then at least regionally.  

 

That doesn't mean that fiscal responsibility is a non-issue.  It is, but inflation is rarely a fiscal issue in modern times.  Economists have so much better of an understanding now than they did preceding the Great Depression (an event which was actually made worse by deflationary policies made in response).  Controlled inflation (i.e. what we have had now for a while) is actually good for the economy.  

 

In modern times, under Donkey presidents, deficits shrink; under GOP presidents, deficits grow.  Both parties are big spenders, but the Dems are also big taxers, especially on the wealthy.  It's interesting how much supposed deference the right gives to the Founding Fathers and Enlightenment philosophes in this respect when they were so obviously against the idea of a class of wealthy families in perpetuity.  In fact, some like Jefferson even advocated for an estate tax far more aggressive than what we have now.  

 

“What is most important for democracy is not that great fortunes should not exist, but that great fortunes should not remain in the same hands. In that way there are rich [persons], but they do not form a class.” -Alexis de Tocqueville

Edited May 26, 2021 by Capco

[T master]

11 hours ago, BillStime said:

 

Why don't you do some research and ask the parents that helped make this incredibly difficult decision in accordance to laws and medical professionals?

 

 

 

 

 

 

Because i was asking you due to what you wrote just simply asking you for a explanation in your own words.  I believe by my reply you know where i stand with children under a certain age being able to make such a life changing decision before they can legally or moral be allowed to make such a decision .

 

 

[Buffarukus]

4 hours ago, Capco said:

 

Just wanted to say thank you for starting this thread off with some good material to work with.  

 

always willing to debate with someone that takes a reasonable stance and is willing to put effort into a conversation. we may not agree but there is too few of people simply hearing out the other side.

 

i will reply to your other reply when i have time. its a bit to go through.

[sherpa]

8 hours ago, Capco said:

 

 

  It's also one of the main reasons why China manipulates their own currency.  They want the Yen to challenge the dollar as a reserve currency, if not globally then at least regionally.  

 

 

 

Been to China recently?

Don't try to buy dinner with yen.

[BillStime]

 

[Capco]

15 hours ago, sherpa said:

 

Been to China recently?

Don't try to buy dinner with yen.

 

I always get those mixed up lmao.  Yuan, not Yen.  

[Buffarukus]

On 5/24/2021 at 8:25 PM, Capco said:

 

The United States happens to be in a very unique position in the world with respect to currency.  The US Dollar is the reserve currency of the world.  What that effectively means is that there will always be an inordinate amount of demand for the greenback.  Any time a foreign currency transaction occurs it can be thought of as one party buying the other party's money with their own money.  One reason inflation is never a very big problem in the US is because of this demand for dollars.  Look at the rates of inflation by year over the last 20 years; inflation has not gone anywhere close to out of control despite a massive expansion of the money supply.  

 

We'd be stupid not to use this unique position to our advantage.  It's also one of the main reasons why China manipulates their own currency.  They want the Yen Yuan to challenge the dollar as a reserve currency, if not globally then at least regionally.  

 

That doesn't mean that fiscal responsibility is a non-issue.  It is, but inflation is rarely a fiscal issue in modern times.  Economists have so much better of an understanding now than they did preceding the Great Depression (an event which was actually made worse by deflationary policies made in response).  Controlled inflation (i.e. what we have had now for a while) is actually good for the economy.  

 

In modern times, under Donkey presidents, deficits shrink; under GOP presidents, deficits grow.  Both parties are big spenders, but the Dems are also big taxers, especially on the wealthy.  It's interesting how much supposed deference the right gives to the Founding Fathers and Enlightenment philosophes in this respect when they were so obviously against the idea of a class of wealthy families in perpetuity.  In fact, some like Jefferson even advocated for an estate tax far more aggressive than what we have now.  

 

“What is most important for democracy is not that great fortunes should not exist, but that great fortunes should not remain in the same hands. In that way there are rich [persons], but they do not form a class.” -Alexis de Tocqueville

 

hey there i finally got a bit of time. first im not a economist as it is a very complex system but ill give my thoughts.

 

it seems that you make a argument and then give your own counter point.

 

you say we are the source for the worlds currency and that is a unique position. you then go on to say china is challenging this position, and one would be foolish to think they arent gaining major ground. this unique position is not some god given thing that america can and will always hold. just as quickly as the destruction of europe and industrialization gave it to us it can be lost relatively quickly. printing money at a alarming rate just excellerates a decline as basic supply and demand results in devaluation.

 

history is full of countries where they seemed to be in very good economic positions only to have their comfortability pulled from under them, as they use their currency as kindling because fire became more valuable to ones survival.

 

the fact you trust the "official" inflation rates is not a good gauge. everyone knows the fed ARTIFICIALLY keeps it low, as raising it would put a grinding halt to flow. acquiring loans is the life blood of the economy. ask a new home owner who has seen the price of wood skyrocket and can no longer finish. a low income family who has to pay for higher gas and food bills. the list is growing and inflation is hitting people hard yet "utilizing this unique position" seems to not be executed with extreme caution. a global pandemic and countries that put the brakes on their economies is also a unique position. one the world has not seen in the same time frame you speak of. so we should not use the past for accuracy on effects and outcomes.

 

i realize the inflation hitting certain segments is caused by a myriad but spending..sorry BORROWING, TRILLIONS of more dollars before you have even seen the full effects and have yet to recover is beyond foolish. especially for things that are not guaranteed to promote economic growth/ recovery. let the vaccines work, examine the devastation closely and make transparent, targeted bills to get us back on track and we can then discuss huge " i think this will help but who really knows" partisan spending policies riddled with earmarks. 

 

as for us being so much more educated today. i think your severely overestimating.

 

for instance, a long time trump hater and liberal supporter john oliver..who is selling "huge budget bills are ok" in his vid, because thats what biden is pushing, even has to admit that our top economists do not truley understand the tipping point at which hyperinflation would destroy our currency, but lets continue to push bills that tilt us towards this outcome. if, god forbid, it hits. theres no coming back. i dont assume it has been a concern by either side for a very long time. they are both guilty and probably will continue until collapse but [tax the rich] is not some magic that will fix the problems alone, the rich do not just sit back and give away their wealth. they move to more profitable countries and workforces...back to that whole china problem and what can excellerate it.  the poorest person here lives a life those in truley economic devastated countries could only dream. ask the southern boarder. everything has a cost and free money costs us the value of earned. there is no easy fix as, like i said, its complex. i just dont think its wise addressing it by borrowing on unheard of scales ends well. it is playing with with very dangerous fire that can consume EVERYONE. good things never end, until it does. we should stop acting like it cant happen. we have cities like detroit that show how fragile our own micro boom to bust economies can be. 

 

 

 

sorry for the rant or if youve discussed these things already in the thread. just my 2 cents/ metal antiques that used to be worth something 😉

Edited May 28, 2021 by Buffarukus

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[BillStime]

 

Does that mean they’re outlawing condoms too or just any birth control that has to do with women controlling their own bodies?

 

 

[Wacka]

Rene Robert. RIP

[JaCrispy]

On 5/30/2021 at 1:34 PM, BillStime said:

 

Reagan and JFK...2 of my favorite presidents...👍

[BillStime]

When fascism comes to America - it will Be wrapped in the Flag

 

 

 

[Governor]

Anti-police and military.

[BillStime]

Just now, Governor said:

Anti-police and military.

 

and ANTI AMERICA!!!!!!

 

Trump called former attorney general Bill Barr and Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell “spineless RINOs” (Republicans in Name Only) after Barr told The Atlantic that Trump’s constant claims of election fraud were “bull####.” Barr also told the magazine that McConnell urged him to “inject some reality” into Trump as he repeated debunked claims of election fraud and baseless conspiracy theories last winter.

 

‘Utterly Deranged’ Trump Has Full Meltdown Over Bill Barr, Mitch McConnell

 

Trump Supporters --> AINO—Americans In Name Only

 

[BillStime]

 

 

 

[BillStime]

Theocracy is a recipe for atrocity. No thanks

 

 

 

[Unforgiven]

.....the steel will to wreck leftists, America's greatest threat ever.

Starting with breaking them mentally which Trump accomplished nicely.

Edited July 3, 2021 by Unforgiven

[Capco]

On 7/2/2021 at 12:16 PM, BillStime said:

 

 

 

 

I find it interesting that roughly the same policy could have been delivered (and hence received) in a much better way.  For example:

 

"Homelessness is a huge problem in California and we need to come together to find a solution.  As governor, I would propose setting up designated facilities where the homeless can not only have access to basic necessities, but where employers can also find potential labor.  I believe such a program would revitalize areas like Venice Beach and help local small businesses thrive.  The tax revenue from increased tourism and commerce will help offset the initial costs of the project, and hopefully the career services provided will make an additional impact on the bottom line by decreasing the resources required and enlarging the tax base."

[BillStime]

2 hours ago, Capco said:

 

I find it interesting that roughly the same policy could have been delivered (and hence received) in a much better way.  For example:

 

"Homelessness is a huge problem in California and we need to come together to find a solution.  As governor, I would propose setting up designated facilities where the homeless can not only have access to basic necessities, but where employers can also find potential labor.  I believe such a program would revitalize areas like Venice Beach and help local small businesses thrive.  The tax revenue from increased tourism and commerce will help offset the initial costs of the project, and hopefully the career services provided will make an additional impact on the bottom line by decreasing the resources required and enlarging the tax base."

 

Agreed but that approach doesn't appeal to the Trump base.

Edited July 3, 2021 by BillStime

[Unforgiven]

1 hour ago, BillStime said:

 

Agreed but that approach doesn't appear to the Trump base.

It appears the approach doesn't appear to the democrat base either... how long has 

governor hairdo been there...not very bright are you