Big Blitz Posted April 25, 2021 Share Posted April 25, 2021 Millennials going out with a bang: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Backintheday544 Posted April 25, 2021 Share Posted April 25, 2021 15 minutes ago, Big Blitz said: Millennials going out with a bang: What’s your issue with this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Blitz Posted April 25, 2021 Author Share Posted April 25, 2021 24 minutes ago, Backintheday544 said: What’s your issue with this? Everything. But let's start with just the obvious. What if say, everyone watching the ad decides "yea, I don't need any more jeans I'm good. Certainly not from the company telling me it's 'bad to have too much of something." Is this what shareholders want to hear? What about the kids that work for Levi's and the need to feed their family? Or the people that manage or work in their soon to be dead brick and mortar stores? Is this what they want to hear? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Backintheday544 Posted April 25, 2021 Share Posted April 25, 2021 1 minute ago, Big Blitz said: Everything. But let's start with just the obvious. What if say, everyone watching the ad decides "yea, I don't need any more jeans I'm good. Certainly not from the company telling me it's 'bad to have too much of something." Is this what shareholders want to hear? What about the kids that work for Levi's and the need to feed their family? Or the people that manage or work in their soon to be dead brick and mortar stores? Is this what they want to hear? Why are you telling businesses how to advertise? You sound like a communist trying to control business decisions. 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Blitz Posted April 25, 2021 Author Share Posted April 25, 2021 33 minutes ago, Backintheday544 said: Why are you telling businesses how to advertise? You sound like a communist trying to control business decisions. Nah but I just might have them in my stock portfolio. Don't like hearing "we don't really care about profits it's all about the collective dumb." 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Backintheday544 Posted April 25, 2021 Share Posted April 25, 2021 Just now, Big Blitz said: Nah but I just might have them in my stock portfolio. Don't like hearing "we don't really care about profits it's all about the collective dumb." Do you think that’s what the ad is saying? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Blitz Posted April 25, 2021 Author Share Posted April 25, 2021 11 minutes ago, Backintheday544 said: Do you think that’s what the ad is saying? Is it trying to sell jeans? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motorin' Posted April 25, 2021 Share Posted April 25, 2021 (edited) 2 hours ago, Big Blitz said: Is it trying to sell jeans? Jesus, it's a ad saying they have a higher quality product that will last longer. So you should by it cause it's better, and if you buy their product you'll also help the environment because you aren't buying disposable clothing. If you don't see how that ad could motivate sales then you're probably just mad that the company is able to generate sales by saying it cares about the environment. Maybe global warming deniers won't buy a brand that claims to care about the environment. But most people want to believe they are helping the environment when participating in consumerism. Even if it's total BS. Edited April 25, 2021 by Motorin' 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
\GoBillsInDallas/ Posted April 25, 2021 Share Posted April 25, 2021 Of course, if they really cared about people/environment they would not have moved all of their production overseas to countries with cheap labor and lax environmental regulations. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Governor Posted April 25, 2021 Share Posted April 25, 2021 (edited) 54 minutes ago, Motorin' said: Jesus, it's a ad saying they have a higher quality product that will last longer. So you should by it cause it's better, and if you buy their product you'll also help the environment because you aren't buying disposable clothing. If you don't see how that ad could motivate sales then you're probably just mad that the company is able to generate sales by saying it cares about the environment. Maybe global warming deniers won't buy a brand that claims to care about the environment. But most people want to believe they are helping the environment when participating in consumerism. Even if it's total BS. I agree with everything you said but there was actually a recent poll that said most people aren’t willing to pay more for environmentally friendly goods anymore which was a bit disturbing. I guess it really depends on what that product is. Edited April 25, 2021 by The Governor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted April 25, 2021 Share Posted April 25, 2021 (edited) Obviously they're trying to appeal to the younger generations and these are the issues they care about. Even if it means turning off the get off my lawn crowd. The goal being to indoctrinate them into only buying their brand to cut off competition. It's a calculated risk that Nike pulled off (Kaepernick) despite having sweatshops overseas. They've consistently beat consensus estimates with their earnings and their stock price is at an all time high so they're doing something right. Edited April 25, 2021 by Doc Brown 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted April 25, 2021 Share Posted April 25, 2021 An interesting discussion I guess but you’all do realize that companies just look at the products they sell and then ask an advertising agency to sell them with a message they hope will be appealing in their targeted marketplace. They don’t actually change ANYTHING about the products they make or the way they make it. Green, my arse! 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted April 25, 2021 Share Posted April 25, 2021 10 hours ago, Big Blitz said: Nah but I just might have them in my stock portfolio. Don't like hearing "we don't really care about profits it's all about the collective dumb." way it seems to me, its: 1) need Levi brand to seem more woke, maybe data shows they aren’t performing well in that group 2) great way to rationalize new line of higher priced (long lasting jeans) i promise you every decision right or wrong was made with profit and revenue front and center. athlesure must be hurting them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niagara Bill Posted April 25, 2021 Share Posted April 25, 2021 So, don't you have a problem with drug companies with 30 second commercial, 20 seconds of legal nonsense telling you that death is possible, then 5 seconds telling you that if affordability is a problem they might be able to help, because they are so rich by over charging all their other customers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RochesterRob Posted April 25, 2021 Share Posted April 25, 2021 7 hours ago, The Governor said: I agree with everything you said but there was actually a recent poll that said most people aren’t willing to pay more for environmentally friendly goods anymore which was a bit disturbing. I guess it really depends on what that product is. I think that the CO2 is getting to you. Maybe CO if you are sitting in your car idling in your garage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orlando Tim Posted April 25, 2021 Share Posted April 25, 2021 7 hours ago, Doc Brown said: Obviously they're trying to appeal to the younger generations and these are the issues they care about. Even if it means turning off the get off my lawn crowd. The goal being to indoctrinate them into only buying their brand to cut off competition. It's a calculated risk that Nike pulled off (Kaepernick) despite having sweatshops overseas. They've consistently beat consensus estimates with their earnings and their stock price is at an all time high so they're doing something right. Your overall point is valid but Nike stock is no longer going up because apparently they actually gave validation to the Uighers and China is not pleased. The investors want to see if there is any response from the CCP such as shutting stores. As for this ad I think it is aimed at idiots who think the rest of the world being able to but clothes is a problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RochesterRob Posted April 25, 2021 Share Posted April 25, 2021 There is so much wrong with Levi's. The product is crap compared to decades ago. Levi's has long lost its reputation as a company friendly to labor and American cotton producers. Levi's a few generations ago was not completely intertwined with the left like it is today. The message today seems to be if you are conservative don't buy our product. I don't. I have become exhausted on the whole culture Levi's stands for. I don't own any Levi's-like product anymore. I have clothes made from cotton but not styled like anything Levi's offers. Thanks but no thanks Levi's I can think for myself. I don't need to follow a herd of empty minded fools. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoTier Posted April 25, 2021 Share Posted April 25, 2021 2 minutes ago, RochesterRob said: There is so much wrong with Levi's. The product is crap compared to decades ago. Levi's has long lost its reputation as a company friendly to labor and American cotton producers. Levi's a few generations ago was not completely intertwined with the left like it is today. The message today seems to be if you are conservative don't buy our product. I don't. I have become exhausted on the whole culture Levi's stands for. I don't own any Levi's-like product anymore. I have clothes made from cotton but not styled like anything Levi's offers. Thanks but no thanks Levi's I can think for myself. I don't need to follow a herd of empty minded fools. When the hell have conservatives EVER been friendly to labor??? Cotton producers, yes. *****, never. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RochesterRob Posted April 25, 2021 Share Posted April 25, 2021 2 hours ago, SoCal Deek said: An interesting discussion I guess but you’all do realize that companies just look at the products they sell and then ask an advertising agency to sell them with a message they hope will be appealing in their targeted marketplace. They don’t actually change ANYTHING about the products they make or the way they make it. Green, my arse! I took a marketing class while at college many years ago. A huge, huge amount of effort goes into marketing denim. Denim made clothes was one of the earliest industries to receive product placement treatment in movies and television. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melon Posted April 25, 2021 Share Posted April 25, 2021 Imagine this dude when the Chevy Like a Rock commercials came out HOLY &#(^%&(# THAT CAR IS GOING TO LAST FOREVER MY STOCK PORTFOLIO OMFG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Governor Posted April 25, 2021 Share Posted April 25, 2021 3 minutes ago, SoTier said: When the hell have conservatives EVER been friendly to labor??? Cotton producers, yes. *****, never. Not in my lifetime. I’m 45. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RochesterRob Posted April 25, 2021 Share Posted April 25, 2021 11 minutes ago, SoTier said: When the hell have conservatives EVER been friendly to labor??? Cotton producers, yes. *****, never. Every time they buy a product made in this country. Used to be Levi's when they were made in the US. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melon Posted April 25, 2021 Share Posted April 25, 2021 1 minute ago, RochesterRob said: Used to be Levi's when they were made in the US. Wait the jeans didn't actually last forever? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RochesterRob Posted April 25, 2021 Share Posted April 25, 2021 1 hour ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said: way it seems to me, its: 1) need Levi brand to seem more woke, maybe data shows they aren’t performing well in that group 2) great way to rationalize new line of higher priced (long lasting jeans) i promise you every decision right or wrong was made with profit and revenue front and center. athlesure must be hurting them. Unless Levi's has come up with a new way to weave or treat cotton they will be the same shoddy merchandise that they have been for a couple of decades now. Used to be durability was measured in ounces of cotton per square foot of fabric. The amount of cotton per square foot in a pair of jeans has been going steadily down for decades now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Governor Posted April 25, 2021 Share Posted April 25, 2021 (edited) Watch out guys! Mom jeans, high rise jeans, and the jeans with the big holes in the knees are back in style. Noticed it NYC last weekend. I only own 1 pair of jeans. Some brand called Mavi. I wouldn’t even know where to find Levi’s. I’m older so I mostly shop at Nordstrom or Nordstrom RACK for business casual. Edited April 25, 2021 by The Governor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RochesterRob Posted April 25, 2021 Share Posted April 25, 2021 2 minutes ago, Melon said: Wait the jeans didn't actually last forever? No pair of jeans last forever but a couple of generations ago Levi's would be quite durable compared to other brands and types of clothes. But Levi's succumbed to profiteering just like any other brand of clothing telling consumers that crap in the form of style (belt sander jeans) was the way to go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted April 25, 2021 Share Posted April 25, 2021 Woke Levi Strauss CEO Condemns GA Voter ID Law- Can’t Explain Why It’s Racist Levi Strauss CEO Confronted At Shareholder Meeting-Can't Answer https://lidblog.com/levi-strauss-voter-id/ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motorin' Posted April 25, 2021 Share Posted April 25, 2021 41 minutes ago, The Governor said: Watch out guys! Mom jeans, high rise jeans, and the jeans with the big holes in the knees are back in style. Noticed it NYC last weekend. I only own 1 pair of jeans. Some brand called Mavi. I wouldn’t even know where to find Levi’s. I’m older so I mostly shop at Nordstrom or Nordstrom RACK for business casual. Funny story, a year or two ago a friend of mine with a teenage daughter (14ish) is taking her clothes shopping. The girl gets excited about literal old school mom jeans. The mom is like, wouldn't you prefer skinny jeans? And the girl says "yuck, I'm not wearing mom jeans." 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RochesterRob Posted April 25, 2021 Share Posted April 25, 2021 49 minutes ago, The Governor said: Watch out guys! Mom jeans, high rise jeans, and the jeans with the big holes in the knees are back in style. Noticed it NYC last weekend. I only own 1 pair of jeans. Some brand called Mavi. I wouldn’t even know where to find Levi’s. I’m older so I mostly shop at Nordstrom or Nordstrom RACK for business casual. Since you know how to navigate the net then you know how to find Levi's among other things. Levi's still can be found at a number of brick and mortar outlets including outlet malls. You could be in a pair of Levi's by sundown unless you are out in the desert. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Governor Posted April 25, 2021 Share Posted April 25, 2021 3 minutes ago, RochesterRob said: Since you know how to navigate the net then you know how to find Levi's among other things. Levi's still can be found at a number of brick and mortar outlets including outlet malls. You could be in a pair of Levi's by sundown unless you are out in the desert. You’re not supposed to wear jeans once you hit 40. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RochesterRob Posted April 25, 2021 Share Posted April 25, 2021 3 minutes ago, The Governor said: You’re not supposed to wear jeans once you hit 40. You would not know that by looking by most Americans including those in Western New York. Most people look ridiculous but that has more to do with style versus their clothes being made from denim. That being said denim does not go with every other type of clothing nor all occasions. Under stated works best and is a style I go with on an everyday basis. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted April 25, 2021 Share Posted April 25, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, RochesterRob said: Unless Levi's has come up with a new way to weave or treat cotton they will be the same shoddy merchandise that they have been for a couple of decades now. Used to be durability was measured in ounces of cotton per square foot of fabric. The amount of cotton per square foot in a pair of jeans has been going steadily down for decades now. Oh I meant to air quote ‘long lasting’ 18 minutes ago, The Governor said: You’re not supposed to wear jeans once you hit 40. how about these hip grandmas wearing the ripped ones.. 😆 Edited April 25, 2021 by Over 29 years of fanhood 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted April 25, 2021 Share Posted April 25, 2021 It's actually good marketing. Claim you make durable stuff and therefore increase the price...but it's still the same crap that you still have to replace just as soon as the old stuff. If they want to impress us, give a guarantee. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
\GoBillsInDallas/ Posted April 25, 2021 Share Posted April 25, 2021 43 minutes ago, The Governor said: You’re not supposed to wear jeans once you hit 40. People who work REAL jobs wear jeans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gene Frenkle Posted April 25, 2021 Share Posted April 25, 2021 (edited) Edited April 25, 2021 by Gene Frenkle 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RochesterRob Posted April 25, 2021 Share Posted April 25, 2021 41 minutes ago, Doc said: It's actually good marketing. Claim you make durable stuff and therefore increase the price...but it's still the same crap that you still have to replace just as soon as the old stuff. If they want to impress us, give a guarantee. As said Levi's was probably sagging with the woke crowd thus this marketing pitch. Good marketing as you say but not much more than that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RochesterRob Posted April 25, 2021 Share Posted April 25, 2021 10 hours ago, Doc Brown said: Obviously they're trying to appeal to the younger generations and these are the issues they care about. Even if it means turning off the get off my lawn crowd. The goal being to indoctrinate them into only buying their brand to cut off competition. It's a calculated risk that Nike pulled off (Kaepernick) despite having sweatshops overseas. They've consistently beat consensus estimates with their earnings and their stock price is at an all time high so they're doing something right. Levi's wants the market share they had during the 1970's when they could be all things to all people except screwballs and old people. Not going to happen. There is never going to be the "team" feel like there was in 1978 and go to school or a concert and see an entire crowd outfitted in Levi's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted April 25, 2021 Share Posted April 25, 2021 4 hours ago, Buffalo Timmy said: Your overall point is valid but Nike stock is no longer going up because apparently they actually gave validation to the Uighers and China is not pleased. The investors want to see if there is any response from the CCP such as shutting stores. As for this ad I think it is aimed at idiots who think the rest of the world being able to but clothes is a problem. So did some of there main competitors like Adidas and New Balance. It's a dilemma for Nike because they want to expand their business in China but don't want to piss off consumers in their home markets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T master Posted April 25, 2021 Share Posted April 25, 2021 12 hours ago, \GoBillsInDallas/ said: Of course, if they really cared about people/environment they would not have moved all of their production overseas to countries with cheap labor and lax environmental regulations. Folks some common sense finally comes to the fore front i'm with you GobillsinDallas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Blitz Posted April 25, 2021 Author Share Posted April 25, 2021 (edited) The burden of overconsumption. Don't worry. They've got the perfect plan in place to make sure this happens. Edited April 25, 2021 by Big Blitz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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