TSW Mock Draft 2.0 - Complete!!

[hjnick]

buffalo trade down...

[glazeduck]

2 minutes ago, hjnick said:

buffalo trade down...

Yep, this is what just about worst case scenario for us looks like

[hjnick]

3 minutes ago, glazeduck said:

Yep, this is what just about worst case scenario for us looks like

Trade our first round pick for a 2nd and 3rd round pick???

 

Dallas - #44 and #75  OR Steelers - #42 and #87 OR  Giants - #55 and #58

[BornAgainBillsFan]

1 minute ago, hjnick said:

Trade our first round pick for a 2nd and 3rd round pick???

 

Dallas - #44 and #75  OR Steelers - #42 and #87 OR  Giants - #55 and #58

 

Or if NE wants to trade up into the 1st for Trash...I mean Trask!! Just make sure you stick it to 'em in the trade.

 

[Just Joshin']

2 minutes ago, hjnick said:

Trade our first round pick for a 2nd and 3rd round pick???

 

Dallas - #44 and #75  OR Steelers - #42 and #87 OR  Giants - #55 and #58

Cinn #50 and #69?

[stinky finger]

3 minutes ago, Just Joshin' said:

Cinn #50 and #69?

[NewEra]

31 minutes ago, Mark Vader said:

You bet I am!

Had my hotel and flight booked for months.

Las Vegas will be a blast when they get it in 2022.

As soon as the dates are announced for next year's draft, BOOK IMMEDIATELY! The hotels will rip you off.

 

Awesome.  Enjoy my man!!  

I live in Vegas, so they won’t be ripping me off!  Hopefully uber drivers will be working again by then!  I was at the airport trying to get an Uber for an hour a couple weeks back.  Could’ve just gotten a cab, but double the cost 

 

[NewEra]

As the GM of the Jags, I’ve identified a player that the Jags NEED and he might not be there in 3 picks.  I’d like to trade picks 33, 39 and 45 to the Bills for pick 30. 
 

I am the GM of the Jags after all 

[No_Matter_What]

15 minutes ago, NewEra said:

As the GM of the Jags, I’ve identified a player that the Jags NEED and he might not be there in 3 picks.  I’d like to trade picks 33, 39 and 45 to the Bills for pick 30. 
 

I am the GM of the Jags after all 

The Jags and @NewEra are on the clock!

Edited April 13, 2021 by No_Matter_What

[Virgil]

1 hour ago, No_Matter_What said:

So Ettiene, Toney, Marshall, Mayfield, Eichenberg, Jenkins, Collins, Ossai, Oweh, Campbell and Samuel/Stokes to the poll?

 

1 hour ago, HappyDays said:

Potential Bills picks I could see here:

 

Teven Jenkins

Travis Etienne

Elijah Moore

Kadarius Toney

Landon Dickerson

Jayson Oweh

Zaven Collins

Eric Stokes

Tyson Campbell

Joseph Ossai

 

Positions and Schools please.  I appreciate you all thinking I have all of these players memorized 🙂

[No_Matter_What]

RB Travis Ettiene, Clemson

WR Kadarius Toney, Florida

WR Elijah Moore, Ole Miss

WR Terrace Marshall, LSU

OT Teven Jenkins, Oklahoma State

OT Jalen Mayfield, Michigan

OT Liam Eichenberg, Notre Dame

DE Jayson Oweh, Penn State

DE Joseph Ossai, Texas

LB Zaven Collins, Tulsa

CB Tyson Campbell, Georgia

CB Eric Stokes, Georgia

Edited April 13, 2021 by No_Matter_What

[glazeduck]

1 minute ago, No_Matter_What said:

RB Travis Ettiene, Clemson

WR Kadarius Toney, Florida

WR Elijah Moore, Ole Miss

WR Terrace Marshall, LSU

OT Teven Jenkins, Oklahoma State

OT Jalen Mayfield, Michigan

OT Liam Eichenberg, Notre Dame

DE Jayson Oweh, Penn State

DE Joseph Ossai, Texas

LB Zaven Collins, Tulsa

CB Tyson Campbell, Georgia

CB Eric Stokes, Georgia

Barf, my lap, from these options.......

[Blokestradamus]

Of all the options listed, I'd honestly likely plump for Tyson Campbell.

[Virgil]

Please vote at:

 

 

[NewEra]

40 minutes ago, Blokestradamus said:

Of all the options listed, I'd honestly likely plump for Tyson Campbell.

Same here.  Ossai would probably be next in line.  We nabbed him In rd 2 in mock 1.0 😂

 

Terrace Marshall and Elijah Moore are really tempting.  If rashod Bateman were on this list, I’d probably take him. 

[Blokestradamus]

6 minutes ago, NewEra said:

Same here.  Ossai would probably be next in line.  We nabbed him In rd 2 in mock 1.0 😂

 

Terrace Marshall and Elijah Moore are really tempting.  If rashod Bateman were on this list, I’d probably take him. 

 

Trust me that Ossai will not reach the Bills in round two. He's still there, the Rams might do cartwheels to the podium.

 

I'm not a big fan of this WR class, if I'm honest. Once you get past Chase, Smith, Waddle and Marshall, I don't have anyone else graded in the top 2 rounds. I haven't graded DB's this year (because I hate them) but Campbell put on a show against a bunch of receivers that I've watched. I think he's a no-brainer here.

[NewEra]

4 minutes ago, Blokestradamus said:

 

Trust me that Ossai will not reach the Bills in round two. He's still there, the Rams might do cartwheels to the podium.

 

I'm not a big fan of this WR class, if I'm honest. Once you get past Chase, Smith, Waddle and Marshall, I don't have anyone else graded in the top 2 rounds. I haven't graded DB's this year (because I hate them) but Campbell put on a show against a bunch of receivers that I've watched. I think he's a no-brainer here.

Oh I know Ossai won’t reach us in rd 2.  Just funny that he did in our mock.  Bad drafting 😂

 

I debated taking him with the Rams in the last mock but couldn’t pass up Nick Bolton. I think he’s a great fit there.  

[Bill from NYC]

6 minutes ago, Blokestradamus said:

 

Trust me that Ossai will not reach the Bills in round two. He's still there, the Rams might do cartwheels to the podium.

 

I'm not a big fan of this WR class, if I'm honest. Once you get past Chase, Smith, Waddle and Marshall, I don't have anyone else graded in the top 2 rounds. I haven't graded DB's this year (because I hate them) but Campbell put on a show against a bunch of receivers that I've watched. I think he's a no-brainer here.

I love drafting them in the 1st Round. Doing so has produced decades of wins for the Bills.

[Boxcar]

9 minutes ago, Blokestradamus said:

 

Trust me that Ossai will not reach the Bills in round two. He's still there, the Rams might do cartwheels to the podium.

 

I'm not a big fan of this WR class, if I'm honest. Once you get past Chase, Smith, Waddle and Marshall, I don't have anyone else graded in the top 2 rounds. I haven't graded DB's this year (because I hate them) but Campbell put on a show against a bunch of receivers that I've watched. I think he's a no-brainer here.

I very much like Anthony Schwartz as a later round pick.

Edited April 13, 2021 by Boxcar

[Blokestradamus]

2 minutes ago, Bill from NYC said:

I love drafting them in the 1st Round. Doing so has produced decades of wins for the Bills.

 

Drafting a corner in the first round when you don't have a QB isn't going to move the needle much for team success, I agree on that.

 

Taking one at the back end of the first when you have a QB isn't quite as bad, especially when you can have them cost-controlled for five years.

[Bill from NYC]

Just now, Blokestradamus said:

 

Drafting a corner in the first round when you don't have a QB isn't going to move the needle much for team success, I agree on that.

 

Taking one at the back end of the first when you have a QB isn't quite as bad, especially when you can have them cost-controlled for five years.

Actually, I agree. But even that didn't truly work out for the Bills, ya know?

[whatdrought]

17 minutes ago, Blokestradamus said:

 

Trust me that Ossai will not reach the Bills in round two. He's still there, the Rams might do cartwheels to the podium.

 

I'm not a big fan of this WR class, if I'm honest. Once you get past Chase, Smith, Waddle and Marshall, I don't have anyone else graded in the top 2 rounds. I haven't graded DB's this year (because I hate them) but Campbell put on a show against a bunch of receivers that I've watched. I think he's a no-brainer here.

 

I like Campbell, but the consensus on him is late 2-3 round pick. Not sure why, except that some say he's very raw? 

 

Lance Zierline has him highly rated, and I usually appreciate his take on things. 

[Blokestradamus]

4 minutes ago, Boxcar said:

I very much like Anthony Schwartz as a later round pick.

 

Schwartz is one of those guys that I like if he lasts until Day 3. Hard to ignore the fact that he ran the 100m in 10.07 in high school. The initial qualification time set by UK Athletics for Tokyo was 10.06.

 

He is still raw because he's never really needed technique being that unreasonably fast. A little more polish on his routes and getting down a consistent technique with his releases and he could be really good.

[Blokestradamus]

5 minutes ago, whatdrought said:

I like Campbell, but the consensus on him is late 2-3 round pick. Not sure why, except that some say he's very raw? 

 

Lance Zierline has him highly rated, and I usually appreciate his take on things. 

 

One of the predominent issues I've seen raised surrounds his ball skills. I can't disagree in terms of production.

[Max Fischer]

I’d trade down but if had to choose I’d go Elijah Moore or Stokes. 
 

[Boxcar]

3 hours ago, Blokestradamus said:

 

Schwartz is one of those guys that I like if he lasts until Day 3. Hard to ignore the fact that he ran the 100m in 10.07 in high school. The initial qualification time set by UK Athletics for Tokyo was 10.06.

 

He is still raw because he's never really needed technique being that unreasonably fast. A little more polish on his routes and getting down a consistent technique with his releases and he could be really good.

That's what I find appealing. Imagine a guy like that surrounded by 3 of the best route runners in the NFL? I don't know how true it is that players learn from one another, but I know John Brown's route running got a lot better when he started playing with Beasley. Or maybe Chad Hall is a wizard, I dunno. But Schwartz is exactly the kind of WR i want the Bills to target: later rounds, crazy athletic, pretty raw. I'd take my chances while we have this receiving corps in place. I'd be disappointed if they went for a guy like Dazz Newsome instead.

Edited April 14, 2021 by Boxcar

[NewEra]

5 hours ago, whatdrought said:

 

I like Campbell, but the consensus on him is late 2-3 round pick. Not sure why, except that some say he's very raw? 

 

Lance Zierline has him highly rated, and I usually appreciate his take on things. 

The consensus of who?  I’ve seen him mocked late first in several mocks.  The trends in online mock drafts aren’t really relative to the draft boards of nfl teams imo.  Every year, several players are taken much higher and lower than the “consensus”. 
 

all depends who the evaluator is. Chris Simms doesn’t even have Jaycee Horn in his top 5 corners, while many are predicting him to be the 10th pick in the draft

[GunnerBill]

10 hours ago, Blokestradamus said:

Of all the options listed, I'd honestly likely plump for Tyson Campbell.

 

Surely you'd pick your boy Eich? 

 

Ossai, Marshall, Eich and Campbell are my 4 off that list. They are all close enough in grade on my board that the Bills that you could factor need in. 

[Blokestradamus]

1 hour ago, GunnerBill said:

Surely you'd pick your boy Eich? 

 

Ossai, Marshall, Eich and Campbell are my 4 off that list. They are all close enough in grade on my board that the Bills that you could factor need in. 

 

Value-wise, of course. I just think that corner is the best spot to upgrade with the options presented.

 

Ossai, while I really like him, is 'sub-optimal' as a typical fit. Marshall works as a long-term X-receiver option but I do worry about the snap count impact early on with the group ahead of him on the depth chart. Campbell feels logical and I don't always do logical.

[GunnerBill]

34 minutes ago, Blokestradamus said:

 

Value-wise, of course. I just think that corner is the best spot to upgrade with the options presented.

 

Ossai, while I really like him, is 'sub-optimal' as a typical fit. Marshall works as a long-term X-receiver option but I do worry about the snap count impact early on with the group ahead of him on the depth chart. Campbell feels logical and I don't always do logical.

 

Agree Ossai is a sub optimal fit. I feel like I do on Oweh. You draft those guys you have to do so in full acknowledgement that you are drafting projects. You are drafting high ceiling guys who could be productive edge players down the line but who are going to have to play a different game than they did in college to be what the Bills look for. Either is a 3rd down rush package only player as a rookie.

 

Campbell of those 4 has the easiest route to starting, for sure. Although I think Marshall would get opportunities to get on the field when Daboll realises it is his turn to 'benefit' from Beane's fetish for spending free agent dollars on guys minutes away from retirement..... definite daddy complex. 

[Virgil]

The poll will be closing at noon 

[Virgil]

The Chiefs @frostbitmic are on the clock

[CNYfan]

I think the Chiefs just fell into the OL value trove.  

[Just Joshin']

2 minutes ago, CNYfan said:

I think the Chiefs just fell into the OL value trove.  

Seems like Jenkins is the obvious choice so they will probably go WR.

[whatdrought]

Ossai at 30 is such a bad pick. 

[frostbitmic]

With the 31 st pick in the 2021 NFL draft, the Kansas City Chiefs select Terrence Marshall - WR - LSU.

 

Another toy for Patrick to abuse defenses with. DC's will lose sleep trying ho figure out how to stop CEW, Kelce, Tyriek, Hardaway and Marshall. Our T position was a thought, but we have a couple of promising young guys that should keep Mahomes upright.

 

The Bucs @ #Bigdaddyinorlando are on the clock

 

 

[whatdrought]

Just now, frostbitmic said:

With the 31 st pick in the 2021 NFL draft, the Kansas City Chiefs select Terrence Marshall - WR - LSU.

 

Another toy for Patrick to abuse defenses with. DC's will lose sleep trying ho figure out how to stop CEW, Kelce, Tyriek, Hardaway and Marshall. Our T position was a thought, but we have a couple of promising young guys that should keep Mahomes upright.

 

The Bucs @ #Bigdaddyinorlando are on the clock

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Just Joshin']

Trade Announcement

The Cincinnati Bengals have acquired pick #32 from the TB Bucs in exchange for picks 50 and 69.

 

With the 32nd pick, the Cincinnati Bengals select Kadarius Toney, WR, Florida. 

 

The Bengals need to add a third target who can get deep to supplement Boyd and Higgins.  This gives Barrow a full set of weapons to attack the defense at all levels.  He will also return kicks and can be the gadget guy on offense.  Pick 32 may be a bit high but we are looking at the overall talent and team contribution.   With the Chiefs picking Marshall, the last WR we would have considered at #39 would have been Moore and he may not have been available.

 

The Jaguars @NewEra are on the clock.

[NewEra]

7 minutes ago, frostbitmic said:

With the 31 st pick in the 2021 NFL draft, the Kansas City Chiefs select Terrence Marshall - WR - LSU.

 

Another toy for Patrick to abuse defenses with. DC's will lose sleep trying ho figure out how to stop CEW, Kelce, Tyriek, Hardaway and Marshall. Our T position was a thought, but we have a couple of promising young guys that should keep Mahomes upright.

 

The Bucs @ #Bigdaddyinorlando are on the clock

 

 

A couple?  I’ll give you Niang, who sat out a year.  Is rankin promising all of a sudden?

[Reed83HOF]

13 minutes ago, whatdrought said:

Ossai at 30 is such a bad pick. 

These edge guys this year meh