Combating imaginary racism with actual racism??

[716er]

1 hour ago, Chef Jim said:

 

 

I think we just figured out that @BillStime is @716er's sister.  Makes sense.  

 

Makes about as much sense as you, Jim.

[Chef Jim]

1 hour ago, 716er said:

 

Makes about as much sense as you, Jim.

God you are the witty one aren’t you. The ole Peewee Herman retort. 👍🏻
 

Time to sharpen the debating skills. Looks like I’m going up against The 716er Fixer.  

[B-Man]

Are Activists Protecting Asians from Hate—or Protecting Their Narrative of White Supremacy from Criticism?

by Hai Di Nguyen

 

https://quillette.com/2021/06/08/are-activists-protecting-asians-from-hate-or-protecting-their-narrative-of-white-supremacy-from-criticism/

 

 

 

I THINK I KNOW THE ANSWER

[Orlando Tim]

18 hours ago, SoCal Deek said:

You lost me there. Not sure what you're referring to.  Who's sister?

716er and Governor like to make outrageous claims just to distract from the nonsense they spew. He is most likely referencing nothing and I am certain it is unrelated to you if there is something.

[BillStime]

 

[B-Man]

 

 

 

BUT BUT BUT… ONLY WHITES CAN BE RACIST*:  

 

One-Way Racism.

 

 

*Saying that is of course racist. Also stupid.

 

 

https://tomknighton.substack.com/p/one-way-racism

 

 

[B-Man]

19 hours ago, B-Man said:

 

A Teacher Speaks Out.

 

 

 

More on this:

 

"I teach students who recoil from a poem because it was written by a man. I teach students who approach texts in search of the oppressor."

 

"I teach students who see inequities in texts that have nothing to do with power. Students have internalized the message that this is the way we read and think about the world, and as a result, they fixate on power and group identity. This fixation has stunted their ability to observe and engage with the full fabric of human experience in our literature.

 

In my professional opinion, the school is failing to encourage healthy habits of mind, essential for growth, such as intellectual curiosity, humility, honesty, reason, and the capacity to question ideas and consider multiple perspectives.... Understandably, these students have found comfort in their moral certainty, and so they have become rigid and closed-minded, unable or unwilling to consider alternative perspectives. These young students have no idea that the school has placed ideological blinders on them."

 

Writes Dana Stangel-Plowe, resigning from her job as an English teacher at an expensive New Jersey private school.

 

 

 

 

Critical Race theory is harming these kids.

 

 

 

[B-Man]

 

What does she know ?................we're just teaching 'history'

 

 

 

[B-Man]

 

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Edited June 11, 2021 by B-Man

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[B-Man]

 

 

      

 

 

 

 

The Coming Backlash Against Woke Public Schools.

https://hotair.com/headlines/2021/06/10/the-coming-backlash-against-woke-public-schools-n395783

 

 

 

 

Voters Reject Woke Education in Rapid City, South Dakota.

https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2021/06/voters-reject-woke-education-in-rapid-city-south-dakota.php

 

 

 

 

[B-Man]

 

 

Again, what does she know , right ?

 

‘Telling my child they’re permanently oppressed because they’re black is RACIST’:

FL mom DESTROYS State Board of Ed over Critical Race Theory

 

 

 

https://twitchy.com/samj-3930/2021/06/11/telling-my-child-theyre-permanently-oppressed-because-theyre-black-is-racist-fl-mom-destroys-state-board-of-ed-over-critical-race-theory-youll-fist-pump/

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[B-Man]

 

 

Parents Are Revolting, Teachers Are Resigning, and Critical Race Theory Is to Blame

 

On Tuesday, an upstate New York school board meeting almost descended into a brawl after a school board member called a father an “a**hole” and tried to punch him. On the same day, an English teacher at a private New Jersey prep school announced she would resign due to “the hostile culture of conformity and fear that has taken hold of our school.” Also on the same day in Virginia, a teacher encouraged parents, students, and teachers to revolt against the ideology that is creeping into her school district.

 

These episodes and many others like them illustrate how Marxist critical race theory (CRT) has sparked a civil war in American education. While school boards, administrators, and many teachers have launched a coup to teach CRT in classrooms, many parents, teachers, and leaders are fighting back. While this conflict may break down along political lines, CRT represents a rejection of America’s highest ideals and liberals should join conservatives in opposing it.

 

CRT justifies blatant racism in the name of promoting “equity.” One of its architects has even supported racial discrimination to counter historic discrimination and has called for a totalitarian bureaucracy to enforce his vision of “equity.” This new racism masquerades as “anti-racist,” but it judges people according to the color of their skin, not the content of their character.

 

Marxist thinkers invented critical race theory (CRT) in order to upend society by claiming that hidden racism pervades American institutions. CRT teaches people to seize on any racial disparity as ipso facto proof of racial discrimination, despite the clear prohibitions on racial discrimination in federal law. Advocates claim that the American status quo is racist — if not “white supremacist” — so extreme measures to reverse historic injustices are the only “anti-racist” option.

 

MUCH more at the link: https://pjmedia.com/columns/tyler-o-neil/2021/06/10/critical-race-theory-has-sparked-a-civil-war-in-american-education-n1453432

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[BillStime]

 

[B-Man]

 

I said to myself,

 

Now what type of nonsense does BillZy have to respond to the several strong Anti-CRT articles posted.

 

 

Lo and behold, it is just an article about some parents acting like jerks.

 

Nothing at all to do with the Marxist Critical Race theory being forced on us.

 

 

[BillStime]

1 hour ago, B-Man said:

 

I said to myself,

 

Now what type of nonsense does BillZy have to respond to the several strong Anti-CRT articles posted.

 

 

Lo and behold, it is just an article about some parents acting like jerks.

 

Nothing at all to do with the Marxist Critical Race theory being forced on us.

 

 

 

Have you all noticed that @B-Man is a coward? He can never actually respond directly to my posts.

 

[All_Pro_Bills]

12 hours ago, B-Man said:

 

I said to myself,

 

Now what type of nonsense does BillZy have to respond to the several strong Anti-CRT articles posted.

 

 

Lo and behold, it is just an article about some parents acting like jerks.

 

Nothing at all to do with the Marxist Critical Race theory being forced on us.

 

 

The problem with CRT is it isn't a theory at all.  Its not based on facts or data or statistics that have been tested or validated.  Its based on an ideology derived and supported by beliefs.  The core ideological belief is that "race" is the primary determinant of everything.  Its a faith-based opinion expressed by the authors and creators of the "Theory".  You can't debate facts or logic with people that are ideologically driven.  You are just talking past each other.  Speaking a completely different language. 

 

CRT isn't a theory, it ideological nonsense, an opinion at best, and it needs to go into the dumpster.  And in regards CRT (and other things too) I am not compelled to explain or justify my views to political and social ideologs as their brains are just not "wired" to think objectively.     

[plenzmd1]

14 hours ago, BillStime said:

 

Lets dig a little deeper into the story than the headline shall we?.

 

https://www.yahoo.com/news/mississippi-high-school-agreed-2-103019834.html?.tsrc=fp_deeplink

 

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After reviewing the student handbook, West Point's school district's Superintendent Burnell McDonald announced there had been a mistake and - breaking with longstanding tradition - named two other students (who are both white) as co-valedictorian and co-salutatorian.

McDonald, who is Black, told Mississippi Today that the counselor who had calculated the grades was new to the school and given incorrect information about how to determine the designations.

Washington and Temple had won based on the highest Quality Point Average (QPA) but not on Grade Point Average (GPA).

So the way this high school determines the designation is straight GPA, not Quality Point Average(QPA).Those are published guidelines in the student handbook. A new counselor to the school based the designations on QPA..a mistake acknowledged  the districts' Black Superintendent. Hey it happens, people make mistakes, no biggie.

 

Correct line of action according to strict interpretation would be to name the two people with highest GPA with he designations. But this district did the humane thing and awarded co designations. They should be applauded for making what I can see as a great compromise. 

 

But no, people like you want to make this a racist thing. Cause you want to make everything a racist thing. I guess the two kids who thought/knew they won based on the PUBLISHED guidelines should just keep their mouths shut cause they white? 

Edited June 12, 2021 by plenzmd1

[BillStime]

28 minutes ago, plenzmd1 said:

Lets dig a little deeper into the story than the headline shall we?.

 

https://www.yahoo.com/news/mississippi-high-school-agreed-2-103019834.html?.tsrc=fp_deeplink

 

So the way this high school determines the designation is straight GPA, not Quality Point Average(QPA).Those are published guidelines in the student handbook. A new counselor to the school based the designations on QPA..a mistake acknowledged  the districts' Black Superintendent. Hey it happens, people make mistakes, no biggie.

 

Correct line of action according to strict interpretation would be to name the two people with highest GPA with he designations. But this district did the humane thing and awarded co designations. They should be applauded for making what I can see as a great compromise. 

 

But no, people like you want to make this a racist thing. Cause you want to make everything a racist thing. I guess the two kids who thought/knew they won based on the PUBLISHED guidelines should just keep their mouths shut cause they white? 

So very white of you… question: how did the white parents obtain the grades of the black students? 
 

 

 

 

 

[plenzmd1]

38 minutes ago, BillStime said:

So very white of you… question: how did the white parents obtain the grades of the black students? 
 

 

 

 

 

Haha…explain what is white of me. Posted guidelines were not followed, but your dumb ass thinks guidelines should be waived and designations awarded based on race. How very racist of you thinking black people cannot compete and should be awarded things cause they have an inherited disadvantage. yep, not racist at all. 
 

 

[BillStime]

2 minutes ago, plenzmd1 said:

Haha…explain what is white of me. Posted guidelines were not followed, but your dumb ass thinks guidelines should be waived and designations awarded based on race. How very racist of you thinking black people cannot compete and should be awarded things cause they have an inherited disadvantage. yep, not racist at all. 
 

 

You couldn’t answer the question could you…

And I didn’t say anything about black students not being able to compete. As a matter of fact - those black kids took AP and honor classes - those white students did not.

 

So - everyone gets a participation trophy to placate the white parents. 

Tell us - why did the WHITE parents question the GRADES of black students?

 

What proof did they have?

[plenzmd1]

14 minutes ago, BillStime said:

You couldn’t answer the question could you…

And I didn’t say anything about black students not being able to compete. As a matter of fact - those black kids took AP and honor classes - those white students did not.

 

So - everyone gets a participation trophy to placate the white parents. 

Tell us - why did the WHITE parents question the GRADES of black students?

 

What proof did they have?

They got them as the grades are published for the designees, and how they were determined.  
 

prove that did not happen. Is there any hint, any, that any thing nefarious happened? Even the slanted pieces in the Hill and NYT had zero hint of that. But a person who only judges people on the basis of their skin color like you makes that leap.  
 

man, it must suck to be a racist like you. 

[BillStime]

1 minute ago, plenzmd1 said:

They got them as the grades are published for the designees, and how they were determined.  
 

prove that did not happen. Is there any hint, any, that any thing nefarious happened? Even the slanted pieces in the Hill and NYT had zero hint of that. But a person who only judges people on the basis of their skin color like you makes that leap.  
 

man, it must suck to be a racist like you. 

Show me where the grades were public? 

 

The school added the white students designation hours before commencement.
 

And I love the old trick of projecting - inferring that I am a racist because I highlight white supremacy.

 

Go back to your safe place ATOP…

[plenzmd1]

13 minutes ago, BillStime said:

Show me where the grades were public? 

 

The school added the white students designation hours before commencement.
 

And I love the old trick of projecting - inferring that I am a racist because I highlight white supremacy.

 

Go back to your safe place ATOP…

Show me where the grades were not public? You assumed something nefarious based on someone skin color. Racist plain and simple. 

 

and I should add, I assume you think the black superintendent who made the decision is racist and an Uncle Tom!  

 

Edited June 12, 2021 by plenzmd1

[SoCal Deek]

13 minutes ago, BillStime said:

Show me where the grades were public? 

 

The school added the white students designation hours before commencement.
 

And I love the old trick of projecting - inferring that I am a racist because I highlight white supremacy.

 

Go back to your safe place ATOP…

And other than shoveling a wheel barrow full of misplaced guilt on unsuspecting white children, your solution to this systemic “white supremacy” is what exactly? 

Edited June 12, 2021 by SoCal Deek

[BillStime]

12 minutes ago, plenzmd1 said:

Show me where the grades were not public? You assumed something nefarious based on someone skin color. Racist plain and simple. 

 

and I should add, I assume you think the black superintendent who made the decision is racist and an Uncle Tom!  

 

You made the claim that the grades were public - back it up.

[plenzmd1]

2 minutes ago, BillStime said:

You made the claim that the grades were public - back it up.

You made the claim they weren’t, back it up! show me in any of the published materials where it states the grades were obtained through illegal or otherwise untoward methods. Back your claim up! 
 

You made the claim something nefarious happened  because the folks involved are white, or in other words, making judgements about someone based on the color. Racist behavior. 
 

And please tell me what you think of the black superintendent who made the final decision! Is he racist, or just an Uncle Tom?

[BillStime]

54 minutes ago, plenzmd1 said:

You made the claim they weren’t, back it up! show me in any of the published materials where it states the grades were obtained through illegal or otherwise untoward methods. Back your claim up! 
 

You made the claim something nefarious happened  because the folks involved are white, or in other words, making judgements about someone based on the color. Racist behavior. 
 

And please tell me what you think of the black superintendent who made the final decision! Is he racist, or just an Uncle Tom?

White patents complained that black students out performed their white kids - how can that be?

 

Participation trophies for all!

[plenzmd1]

2 minutes ago, BillStime said:

White patents complained that black students out performed their white kids - how can that be?

 

Participation trophies 

So, shift the argument. 
 

again, prove your racist claim that parents/kids did ANYTHING wrong except saying enforce the guidelines that are the printed standard for awarding the designations. 
 

and again, tell me what you think of the black superintendent who made the final decision. Is he racist like you?

 

[BillStime]

Oh - btw - were your grades made public in grade school? I did look for the grades in question and funny - no where to be found online.

 

This is nothing more than moving the goal posts when black students outperform white.

 

If the races had been swapped - imagine the uproar.

 

Cry some more.

2 minutes ago, plenzmd1 said:

So, shift the argument. 
 

again, prove your racist claim that parents/kids did ANYTHING wrong except saying enforce the guidelines that are the printed standard for awarding the designations. 
 

and again, tell me what you think of the black superintendent who made the final decision. Is he racist like you?

 

What argument shift?  You’re shifting the argument playing the race game with a superintendent.

 

Get out here

Edited June 12, 2021 by BillStime

[plenzmd1]

4 minutes ago, BillStime said:

Oh - btw - were your grades made public in grade school? I did look for the grades in question and funny - no where to be found online.

 

This is nothing more than moving the goal posts when black students outperform white.

 

If the races had been swapped - imagine the uproar.

 

Cry some more.

What argument shift?  You’re shifting the argument playing the race game with a superintendent.

 

Get out here

Again, back up your racist claim that the white folks did something wrong. Your claim, back up your racism with facts. 
 

racist is as racist does 

[Doc]

The Superintendent didn't say there was anything improper.  End of story.

[unbillievable]

You get your class rank when requesting your records for college applications.

It's  easy to see the confusion when you're told that your GPA is #1 but two other people are named.

 

Of course, many schools have already eliminated academics as the sole determinant of valedictorian, in favor of a more progressive social point system where skin color and family income are emphasized in your scores.

 

 

 

Edited June 12, 2021 by unbillievable

[BillStime]

1 hour ago, BillStime said:

Oh - btw - were your grades made public in grade school? I did look for the grades in question and funny - no where to be found online.

 

This is nothing more than moving the goal posts when black students outperform white.

 

If the races had been swapped - imagine the uproar.

 

Cry some more.

What argument shift?  You’re shifting the argument playing the race game with a superintendent.

 

Get out here

WTF you talking about? I didn’t bring up the superintendent - you did.

24 minutes ago, unbillievable said:

You get your class rank when requesting your records for college applications.

It's  easy to see the confusion when you're told that your GPA is #1 but two other people are named.

 

Of course, many schools have already eliminated academics as the sole determinant of valedictorian, in favor of a more progressive social point system where skin color and family income are emphasized in your scores.

 

 

 

Grades are not public 

[Over 29 years of fanhood]

Another blatant gaslighting attempt by the racist alt left to mischaracterize an innocent mistake into a fictitious BS systemic problem. Raging racist communist idiots, bent on destruction of society and a warring populous…. all of them… 

Edited June 12, 2021 by Over 29 years of fanhood

[plenzmd1]

16 minutes ago, BillStime said:

WTF you talking about? I didn’t bring up the superintendent - you did.

Grades are not public 

Easy question. Is the superintendent racist because he made this decision? 
 

I won’t even ask you to prove grades are not public, as already asked and already not answered. But you are a champ at avoiding pesky things like facts. 
 

So let’s assume they are not. 
 

a somewhat plausible , like 100% plausible, is kids exchanging what each other GPAs were. Cause we all know kids who have a high GPA like to keep those details quiet and never tell anyone what their GPA is. 
 

And then all the details come out , the kids go home and say man according to the guidelines I should have been valedictorian… and then the parents go  to school  administration and say “ hey, you are not following your printed, established rules “ 

 

the black superintendent agrees . You make the case then racist white people did racist things and racist administration made racist decision. 
 

all of it based on the color of someone’s skin.. in other words , racist. 

[BillStime]

1 hour ago, plenzmd1 said:

Easy question. Is the superintendent racist because he made this decision? 
 

I won’t even ask you to prove grades are not public, as already asked and already not answered. But you are a champ at avoiding pesky things like facts. 
 

So let’s assume they are not. 
 

a somewhat plausible , like 100% plausible, is kids exchanging what each other GPAs were. Cause we all know kids who have a high GPA like to keep those details quiet and never tell anyone what their GPA is. 
 

And then all the details come out , the kids go home and say man according to the guidelines I should have been valedictorian… and then the parents go  to school  administration and say “ hey, you are not following your printed, established rules “ 

 

the black superintendent agrees . You make the case then racist white people did racist things and racist administration made racist decision. 
 

all of it based on the color of someone’s skin.. in other words , racist. 

Look at you - you are turning yourself into a pretzel.  You’re so caught up on proving race was not involved - that you’re now basing your whole argument on hearsay?

Then you bring up the black superintendent as if tho that validates race couldn’t possibly be involved.

 

 

 

 

 

Edited June 12, 2021 by BillStime

[plenzmd1]

1 hour ago, BillStime said:

 

Look at you - you are turning yourself into a pretzel.  You’re so caught up on proving race was not involved - that you’re now basing your whole argument on hearsay?

Then you bring up the black superintendent as if tho that validates race couldn’t possibly be involved.

 

 

 

 

 

Such a funny man you are. 
 

May I remind you brought up hearsay that somehow the grades of the original designees were obtained nefariously because the people involved were white. 
 

Your entire conjecture is somehow this was a racist incident. If you take the adjectives of the color of skin out of the story, the outcome remains the same. 
 

But for somehow who only views and judges people based on the color of their skin as you do, that’s the only fact that matters in any of this.. the color of ones skin. 
 

and yes, I will take the judgement of the superintendent of the school system over yours, and only my bring up the color of his skin because that determines motive in your eyes. 
 

Again, as any racist does, you ascribe actions and motives based on skin color, so I wonder what his motivation was to make the judgement he did. 

[reddogblitz]

5 hours ago, BillStime said:

Show me where the grades were public? 

 

The school added the white students designation hours before commencement.
 

And I love the old trick of projecting - inferring that I am a racist because I highlight white supremacy.

 

Go back to your safe place ATOP…

 

Here we go again.

 

Yesterday it was how many boys have changed their gender for the sole purpose of participating in girls sports. Today its how did the parents get the grades.

 

I'm seeing a trend ...

Edited June 12, 2021 by reddogblitz