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42 minutes ago, Chef Jim said:

 

Where's the mention of the Capital? 

 

Check and mate.

 

 

 

 

I think you meant the Capitol.  You also might want to brush up on that thing called circumstantial evidence.  Or not.  Either way it’s fine with me. 

41 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said:

OK. At this moment the description fits. YOU ARE AN IDIOT!

A pleasant afternoon to you as well.  

It’s sad that Chef Jim Crow, DoQ, and that Deek guy hate America so much that they don’t see a problem

with an attempt to defeat the will of the voters and to overthrow the government.  Maybe you guys could try Myanmar for awhile and see how it goes.  

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41 minutes ago, Doc said:

 

While not good, pepper spraying and not actually killing officer Sicknick was "better."  Which is why the idiots who assaulted him won't be charged with, much less convicted of, murder (or sedition or treason).

 

And Trump told his followers to storm the Capitol just like those dumb ####### Democrat pols told people to kill and injure people and destroy and loot property for 8 months last year.  See I can read into things what I want just as well as you can.  

 

Maybe the Capitol police should be asking why there wasn't more security that day?  Again it's not like everyone didn't know what was going to happen.  That would have been the best way to "back the blue."

 Cool.  So you admit that Trump encouraged the insurrection.  Now, tell me what democrats encouraged looting, etc.,  last year.  I don’t dispute that someone along the way probably did such a thing.  I just would like to know who it was and and what encouragement was given.  
 

also, your logic on the Capitol is akin to saying that “the girl deserved to be raped because of what she wore.”  Good stuff, DoQ. 

 

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6 minutes ago, SectionC3 said:

I think you meant the Capitol.  You also might want to brush up on that thing called circumstantial evidence.  Or not.  Either way it’s fine with me. 

A pleasant afternoon to you as well.  

It’s sad that Chef Jim Crow, DoQ, and that Deek guy hate America so much that they don’t see a problem

with an attempt to defeat the will of the voters and to overthrow the government.  Maybe you guys could try Myanmar for awhile and see how it goes.  

Yawn!


Don’t lash out at me. You’re the one who posted quotes that in no way tell anyone to storm the Capitol. I’m just reacting to your pathetic attempt at constructing a narrative. 

 

Were those numbskulls wrong for storming the Capitol? Yes they were wrong.

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8 minutes ago, SectionC3 said:

I think you meant the Capitol.  You also might want to brush up on that thing called circumstantial evidence.  Or not.  Either way it’s fine with me. 

A pleasant afternoon to you as well.  

 

 

Sorry Capitol.  At what point did Trump tell people to "Storm the Capitol"?  Based on your quotes from his speech he told them to march down the street.  

 

Check and mate. 

10 minutes ago, SectionC3 said:

 

It’s sad that Chef Jim Crow, DoQ, and that Deek guy hate America so much that they don’t see a problem

with an attempt to defeat the will of the voters and to overthrow the government.  Maybe you guys could try Myanmar for awhile and see how it goes.  

 

Oh we see a problem all right and it has nothing to do with America, the riots or people's democratic right to vote.  

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2 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said:

Yawn!


Don’t lash out at me. You’re the one who posted quotes that in no way tell anyone to storm the Capitol. I’m just reacting to your pathetic attempt at constructing a narrative. 

 

Were those numbskulls wrong for storming the Capitol? Yes they were wrong.

Nobody lashed out at you, sir.  I sense you’re a bit triggered today with your name-calling.  

 

Let’s move on to the question whether Trump was wrong in encouraging his followers to “Walk down Pennsylvania Avenue!”  “Show strength!”  “Fight like hell!”  You goofs can’t have it both ways - on the one hand, DoQ is saying that the cops should have been better prepared because it was a tinder box.  On the other hand, literalists Crow and Deek—who also deny the existence of circumstantial evidence—seem to think the encouragement to “march” and to “fight” and to “show strength” to the same crowd that DoQ thinks comprised a tinder box was perfectly fine and in no way could have catalyzed the assault upon the Capitol.  When you guys get your act together, let me know.  

5 minutes ago, Chef Jim said:

 

Sorry Capitol.  At what point did Trump tell people to "Storm the Capitol"?  Based on your quotes from his speech he told them to march down the street.  

 

Check and mate. 

 

Oh we see a problem all right and it has nothing to do with America, the riots or people's democratic right to vote.  

What’s the problem?  Low self-esteem?  That’s sort of the vibe that I get out of you.  No offense. 

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how about all of us who listened to Trumps speech and didnt riot?  we didnt get the message i guess.  didnt the actual problem people go there before the end of Trumps speech?  seems like the used their own minds too, even if they are idiots.

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27 minutes ago, SectionC3 said:

Nice.  Using quotes for the first time I see.  You still spelled Capitol incorrectly.  

 

I'm using quotes because I'm quoting you counselor.

 

So at what point did Trump tell the folks at the rally to, in your words, "Storm the Capitol"? 

 

At what point did he tell them to go to the steps of the Capitol?

 

At what point did he tell them to enter the Capitol?

 

As a matter of fact he only used the word Capitol twice in the speech neither of which had anything to do with the folks at the rally going there.  

 

Have you won one match from me?  

 

How about the best of 9?  

 

You move from one trolling expedition to another with me because you lose them all.  

27 minutes ago, SectionC3 said:

 

What’s the problem?  Low self-esteem?  That’s sort of the vibe that I get out of you.  No offense. 

 

Oh so now your an online psychologist?  

 

No problem counselor.  Just getting a kick out of watching  you jump from topic to topic like the good troll you are. 

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1 hour ago, SectionC3 said:

Nobody lashed out at you, sir.  I sense you’re a bit triggered today with your name-calling.  

 

Let’s move on to the question whether Trump was wrong in encouraging his followers to “Walk down Pennsylvania Avenue!”  “Show strength!”  “Fight like hell!”  You goofs can’t have it both ways - on the one hand, DoQ is saying that the cops should have been better prepared because it was a tinder box.  On the other hand, literalists Crow and Deek—who also deny the existence of circumstantial evidence—seem to think the encouragement to “march” and to “fight” and to “show strength” to the same crowd that DoQ thinks comprised a tinder box was perfectly fine and in no way could have catalyzed the assault upon the Capitol.  When you guys get your act together, let me know.  

What’s the problem?  Low self-esteem?  That’s sort of the vibe that I get out of you.  No offense. 

So you’re saying people can’t “walk down Pennsylvania Avenue” anymore? I’m not seeing how any of YOUR examples support the narrative you’re intent on promoting. Please tell me you’ve got more than that. Remember, those are YOUR examples Mr Prosecutor. 

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4 hours ago, SectionC3 said:

 Cool.  So you admit that Trump encouraged the insurrection.  Now, tell me what democrats encouraged looting, etc.,  last year.  I don’t dispute that someone along the way probably did such a thing.  I just would like to know who it was and and what encouragement was given.  
 

also, your logic on the Capitol is akin to saying that “the girl deserved to be raped because of what she wore.”  Good stuff, DoQ.

 

Great Gibbons, you admit that Waters, Booker, Castro and even Pelosi told people to riot.  One lasted 8 months, led to more crime nationally and has a great chance of happening over and over.  The other lasted 8 hours, was self-limited and will never happen again.

 

And the last sentence is silly.  The Capitol police officers at the Capitol had no control over how much security was provided that day.  Again they should be directing their anger at those who rebuffed requests for significantly more security that day, as things likely wouldn't have gotten to the point they did.

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3 minutes ago, Doc said:

 

Great Gibbons, you admit that Waters, Booker, Castro and even Pelosi told people to riot.  One lasted 8 months, led to more crime nationally and has a great chance of happening over and over.  The other lasted 8 hours, was self-limited and will never happen again.

 

And the last sentence is silly.  The Capitol police officers at the Capitol had no control over how much security was provided that day.  Again they should be directing their anger at those who rebuffed requests for significantly more security that day, as things likely wouldn't have gotten to the point they did.

 

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https://www.yahoo.com/news/group-accused-plotting-kidnap-michigan-144724252.html

The group accused of plotting to kidnap Michigan Gov. Whitmer was riddled with

FBI informants who took leading roles, according to BuzzFeed

 

Some of the informants, including an Iraq war veteran, reportedly took leading roles in the scheme.

For example, an Iraq war veteran informant "became so deeply enmeshed in a Michigan militant group" that he rose to second-in-command of the group, BuzzFeed reported.

The war vet told members of the group to convene with other potential suspects and even paid for members' transportation to meetings, according to the news outlet.

Another man who advised the militia group on where to place explosives and offered to get as many as needed was also an informant, BuzzFeed reported.

New information on the extent of the FBI's involvement has raised questions as to whether there would have even been a conspiracy to take down the Democratic governor without their help.

 

It gets better:

A special agent with the FBI involved in the operation that resulted in a group of men being charged for allegedly plotting to kidnap Michigan Gov. Gretchen Whitmer was criminally charged on Monday in connection to a domestic incident.

Richard Trask was arraigned in a Michigan court on one count of assault with intent to do great bodily harm, less than a murder charge, after a domestic incident with his wife on Sunday. He was subsequently released on a $10,000 recognizance bond, according to the Detroit News.

 

 

I can't help but laugh.

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7 hours ago, Unforgiven said:

https://www.yahoo.com/news/group-accused-plotting-kidnap-michigan-144724252.html

The group accused of plotting to kidnap Michigan Gov. Whitmer was riddled with

FBI informants who took leading roles, according to BuzzFeed

 

Some of the informants, including an Iraq war veteran, reportedly took leading roles in the scheme.

For example, an Iraq war veteran informant "became so deeply enmeshed in a Michigan militant group" that he rose to second-in-command of the group, BuzzFeed reported.

The war vet told members of the group to convene with other potential suspects and even paid for members' transportation to meetings, according to the news outlet.

Another man who advised the militia group on where to place explosives and offered to get as many as needed was also an informant, BuzzFeed reported.

New information on the extent of the FBI's involvement has raised questions as to whether there would have even been a conspiracy to take down the Democratic governor without their help.

 

It gets better:

A special agent with the FBI involved in the operation that resulted in a group of men being charged for allegedly plotting to kidnap Michigan Gov. Gretchen Whitmer was criminally charged on Monday in connection to a domestic incident.

Richard Trask was arraigned in a Michigan court on one count of assault with intent to do great bodily harm, less than a murder charge, after a domestic incident with his wife on Sunday. He was subsequently released on a $10,000 recognizance bond, according to the Detroit News.

 

 

I can't help but laugh.

False Flags.  A CIA overseas specialty also used by FBI and other domestic agencies.  Not out of the question it was employed on 1/6.  Considering about a dozen operatives that are known to the government but charged or arrested had roles at the Capitol event.   And likely the objective of the 1/6 False Flag at the Capitol was devised to be the equivalent of the Reichstag fire in Nazi Germany that provided the justification for consolidating power under the party.  Only this time consolidation under the Democrats.      

 

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44 minutes ago, All_Pro_Bills said:

False Flags.  A CIA overseas specialty also used by FBI and other domestic agencies.  Not out of the question it was employed on 1/6.  Considering about a dozen operatives that are known to the government but charged or arrested had roles at the Capitol event.   And likely the objective of the 1/6 False Flag at the Capitol was devised to be the equivalent of the Reichstag fire in Nazi Germany that provided the justification for consolidating power under the party.  Only this time consolidation under the Democrats.      

 


You figured it all out, just from reading the Internet! 

8 hours ago, Unforgiven said:

https://www.yahoo.com/news/group-accused-plotting-kidnap-michigan-144724252.html

The group accused of plotting to kidnap Michigan Gov. Whitmer was riddled with

FBI informants who took leading roles, according to BuzzFeed

 

Some of the informants, including an Iraq war veteran, reportedly took leading roles in the scheme.

For example, an Iraq war veteran informant "became so deeply enmeshed in a Michigan militant group" that he rose to second-in-command of the group, BuzzFeed reported.

The war vet told members of the group to convene with other potential suspects and even paid for members' transportation to meetings, according to the news outlet.

Another man who advised the militia group on where to place explosives and offered to get as many as needed was also an informant, BuzzFeed reported.

New information on the extent of the FBI's involvement has raised questions as to whether there would have even been a conspiracy to take down the Democratic governor without their help.

 

It gets better:

A special agent with the FBI involved in the operation that resulted in a group of men being charged for allegedly plotting to kidnap Michigan Gov. Gretchen Whitmer was criminally charged on Monday in connection to a domestic incident.

Richard Trask was arraigned in a Michigan court on one count of assault with intent to do great bodily harm, less than a murder charge, after a domestic incident with his wife on Sunday. He was subsequently released on a $10,000 recognizance bond, according to the Detroit News.

 

 

I can't help but laugh.


Do you think informants and agents are the same? Or that informants are good guys?

 

Help me out. I’m trying to figure out just how stupid you are. I mean, I know it’s very stupid. 

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1 hour ago, John Adams said:


You figured it all out, just from reading the Internet! 


Do you think informants and agents are the same? Or that informants are good guys?

 

Help me out. I’m trying to figure out just how stupid you are. I mean, I know it’s very stupid. 

Are you attempting sarcasm? 

 

Here's some facts.  Maybe you are familiar with the concept of facts? Or maybe not?  Or perhaps the concept of logical thinking.  Let me illustrate a lesson in that subject below.

 

Everybody knew there was going to be a big demonstration that day.  That's a fact.

Everybody knew there was dissatisfaction among the protesters with the election results.  That's a fact.

Everybody knew there was "talk" of disrupting or stopping the certification of results in the House.  That's a fact.

And therefore the risk and threat of violence was present.  That would seem obvious to anyone paying attention.  That's a fact.

Everybody knows the the Capitol Police suspecting potential trouble requested the call up of National Guard to deploy at the Capitol.  This request was made before and during the protest.  5 times this was requested.  That's a fact.

Everybody knows the Sargent at Arms who reports to the Speakers office rejected all requests for National Guard troops both before and during the attack.  That's a fact.

 

What we don't know is why the requests from the Capitol Police were rejected.  And why the Guard wasn't called up in the face of obvious danger.  But the House Speaker knows, the person heading the inquiry.  Do you think she should provide some explanation?  This seems like an important non-decision and it begs an answer.  The problem is this is not a question the speaker would like to answer.  Rather it appears to be a question the speaker does not want to answer.   What are the implication of an honest answer? 

 

Now we get into molding these facts to define a theory.

 

So one logical conclusion and theory might be there was a desire to let the violence happen.  For one reason or another.  We need the above question answered factually to disprove or confirm this theory.  But we don't have that answer, yet.  We can speculate but we do not know. 

 

So the theory is a valid theory that meets the criteria for being a theory.  It produces a conclusion supported by facts that needs more facts to prove it true or false.  It might be unpopular to many here but again, its also a fact nobody here can disprove it.  They can ridicule and reject it or choose not to believe it for some reason.  They can do the same to me personally.  But none of that will prove it false.  As the way to prove or disprove theories is to ask questions, gather facts, and apply those facts to see if they support or don't support the theory. 

 

That's why I also conclude 1/6 is equivalent to the Reichstag fire in Germany staged by the Nazi's.  it aligns with the type of event, an attack on the seat of government power, the need for pretense followed by similar objectives.  1/6 was allowed to happen to create an excuse.  Like the Nazi's used the fire as an excuse to neutralize their biggest political opponent which was the communists in Germany.  In the case of 1/6 the Democrats are looking to neutralize their biggest threat which is 75 million Trump voters.  So they followed the script created by the Nazi's.  And why reinvent the wheel when it works?  

 

     

 

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2 minutes ago, All_Pro_Bills said:

Are you attempting sarcasm? 

 

Here's some facts.  Maybe you are familiar with the concept of facts? Or maybe not?  Or perhaps the concept of logical thinking.  Let me illustrate a lesson in that subject below.

 

Everybody knew there was going to be a big demonstration that day.  That's a fact.

Everybody knew there was dissatisfaction among the protesters with the election results.  That's a fact.

Everybody knew there was "talk" of disrupting or stopping the certification of results in the House.  That's a fact.

And therefore the risk and threat of violence was present.  That would seem obvious to anyone paying attention.  That's a fact.

Everybody knows the the Capitol Police suspecting potential trouble requested the call up of National Guard to deploy at the Capitol.  This request was made before and during the protest.  5 times this was requested.  That's a fact.

Everybody knows the Sargent at Arms who reports to the Speakers office rejected all requests for National Guard troops both before and during the attack.  That's a fact.

 

What we don't know is why the requests from the Capitol Police were rejected.  And why the Guard wasn't called up in the face of obvious danger.  But the House Speaker knows, the person heading the inquiry.  Do you think she should provide some explanation?  This seems like an important non-decision and it begs an answer.  The problem is this is not a question the speaker would like to answer.  Rather it appears to be a question the speaker does not want to answer.   What are the implication of an honest answer? 

 

Now we get into molding these facts to define a theory.

 

So one logical conclusion and theory might be there was a desire to let the violence happen.  For one reason or another.  We need the above question answered factually to disprove or confirm this theory.  But we don't have that answer, yet.  We can speculate but we do not know. 

 

So the theory is a valid theory that meets the criteria for being a theory.  It produces a conclusion supported by facts that needs more facts to prove it true or false.  It might be unpopular to many here but again, its also a fact nobody here can disprove it.  They can ridicule and reject it or choose not to believe it for some reason.  They can do the same to me personally.  But none of that will prove it false.  As the way to prove or disprove theories is to ask questions, gather facts, and apply those facts to see if they support or don't support the theory. 

 

That's why I also conclude 1/6 is equivalent to the Reichstag fire in Germany staged by the Nazi's.  it aligns with the type of event, an attack on the seat of government power, the need for pretense followed by similar objectives.  1/6 was allowed to happen to create an excuse.  Like the Nazi's used the fire as an excuse to neutralize their biggest political opponent which was the communists in Germany.  In the case of 1/6 the Democrats are looking to neutralize their biggest threat which is 75 million Trump voters.  So they followed the script created by the Nazi's.  And why reinvent the wheel when it works?  

 

     

 

 

mmm hmm, mmm hmm. Go on...

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14 minutes ago, John Adams said:

 

Tell me more. 

 

How far does it go? What other events are like this? What's next?

One step at a time my friend.  Lets find out why Nancy didn't call the cops in the face of obvious danger from "insurrectionists".  It will come out eventually.   

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14 hours ago, Tiberius said:

Gym Jorden is against that investigation too I bet 

 

What a scum bag 

Do you have a fan boy crush on congressman Jordan?

I’m beginning to see your transgender crisis has reached an all time high? Maybe you should back off on those hormone pills. 

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1 hour ago, All_Pro_Bills said:

One step at a time my friend.  Lets find out why Nancy didn't call the cops in the face of obvious danger from "insurrectionists".  It will come out eventually.   

 

Probably because the cops were protecting her and it was their job to make the call.  

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5 minutes ago, BillStime said:
 

 

 

FTA:

 

He told Garrett that while there needs to be a “fair and objective” investigation into the events of Jan. 6, he doesn't want either side politicizing the attack.

 

“I don’t want the Republicans whitewashing what happened, I don’t want the Democrats trying to make political hay. I want to really have a real investigation into what happened,” he said. 

 

 

 

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Just now, B-Man said:

 

FTA:

 

He told Garrett that while there needs to be a “fair and objective” investigation into the events of Jan. 6, he doesn't want either side politicizing the attack.

 

I don’t want the Republicans whitewashing what happened, I don’t want the Democrats trying to make political hay. I want to really have a real investigation into what happened,” he said. 

 

 

 

 

Larry is talking to you, Bonnie.

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10 minutes ago, B-Man said:

FTA:

 

 he doesn't want either side politicizing the attack.

 

, I don’t want the Democrats trying to make political hay.

 

I want to really have a real investigation into what happened,” he said. 

 

 

 

 

Democrats, double standards, and the Capitol riot committee

by Byron York

 

House Speaker Nancy Pelosi said she barred Representatives Jim Jordan and Jim Banks from the Capitol riot investigating committee because the two Republicans "had made statements and taken actions that I think would impact the integrity of the committee." Pelosi said Jordan and Banks also "made statements and took actions that just made it ridiculous to put them on such a committee seeking the truth." But what about Pelosi's Democratic choices for the committee? Might some of their statements and actions in the past impact the integrity of the committee? And have some of them said and done things that were so at odds

 

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/byron-yorks-daily-memo-democrats-double-standards-and-the-capitol-riot-committee

 

 

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32 minutes ago, B-Man said:

 

 

 

 

 

Democrats, double standards, and the Capitol riot committee

by Byron York

 

House Speaker Nancy Pelosi said she barred Representatives Jim Jordan and Jim Banks from the Capitol riot investigating committee because the two Republicans "had made statements and taken actions that I think would impact the integrity of the committee." Pelosi said Jordan and Banks also "made statements and took actions that just made it ridiculous to put them on such a committee seeking the truth." But what about Pelosi's Democratic choices for the committee? Might some of their statements and actions in the past impact the integrity of the committee? And have some of them said and done things that were so at odds

 

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/byron-yorks-daily-memo-democrats-double-standards-and-the-capitol-riot-committee

 

 


Complaining about the House investigation when they spiked the bipartisan investigation on the terms they requested in the Senate is rich guano from the Republicans. 

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46 minutes ago, B-Man said:

 

 

 

 

 

Democrats, double standards, and the Capitol riot committee

by Byron York

 

House Speaker Nancy Pelosi said she barred Representatives Jim Jordan and Jim Banks from the Capitol riot investigating committee because the two Republicans "had made statements and taken actions that I think would impact the integrity of the committee." Pelosi said Jordan and Banks also "made statements and took actions that just made it ridiculous to put them on such a committee seeking the truth." But what about Pelosi's Democratic choices for the committee? Might some of their statements and actions in the past impact the integrity of the committee? And have some of them said and done things that were so at odds

 

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/byron-yorks-daily-memo-democrats-double-standards-and-the-capitol-riot-committee

 

 

 

The GQP voted against the bi partisan committee - sorry this is all backfiring on the the GQP.

 

Your keepers will do anything to manipulate and get the most hate out of you.

 

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15 minutes ago, BillStime said:

 

The GQP voted against the bi partisan committee - sorry this is all backfiring on the the GQP.

 

Your keepers will do anything to manipulate and get the most hate out of you.

 

i dont hate you

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6 hours ago, All_Pro_Bills said:

 

What we don't know is why the requests from the Capitol Police were rejected.  And why the Guard wasn't called up in the face of obvious danger.  But the House Speaker knows, the person heading the inquiry.  Do you think she should provide some explanation?  This seems like an important non-decision and it begs an answer.  The problem is this is not a question the speaker would like to answer.  Rather it appears to be a question the speaker does not want to answer.   What are the implication of an honest answer? 

 

To me this is the crux of the biscuit.

 

Really the only part I care about.  As you say everyone knew something was going to happen.  Why the failure in security?  Normally to try to take over America you need an F15 and a couple of nukes.  But on this day a mob waltzed right in. Got into the chamber and the Speaker's office.

 

I won't go as far as you on the fire thing, but Democrats have made and will continue to make massive hay off of it.  A great fund raising tool.

 

Not convinced democrats were not involved or at least complicit in the riot of 1/6/21.

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