What is the American Way of Life?

[T master]

1 minute ago, Tiberius said:

Can you give us examples of this? My friends children are super well behaved, respectful and nice. They don't seem to need beaten on. Hitting kids is generally stupid, teaches them that violence solves problems. It doesn't. 

 

But are there lots of examples of simple spankings resulting in arrests of parents? 

 

I have seen cases of child abuse, serious, horrible abuse, where parents complained they were not allowed to "discipline" their kids. 

 

Would you let a teacher punch your child in school if he/she were acting up? 

 

Punch don't be a dum a** punching is not discipline there you go twisting things again .

[Tiberius]

A prayer for our wonderful new President 

 

Isaiah 9:7
“Of the increase of His government and peace there will be no end, upon the throne of David and over His kingdom, to order it and establish it with judgment and justice from that time forward, even forever more. The zeal of the Lord of hosts will perform this.”

[SoTier]

30 minutes ago, Tiberius said:

I see kids out playing all the time. We have hoop courts down the road that kids are always playing at. We have Holloween still. What are you talking about? 

 

 

You want more fighting? Huh? And, gun violence is nothing new. Gun massacres are more common, though. 

 

We also have more safeguards to protect women from drunk abusive husbands, thanks to liberals. That's a good thing, right? The Violence Against Women Act was real good. Agreed?

 

Actually, this is exactly the kind of "freedoms" that these Wacko Trumpists are whining about losing.   Men can no longer beat or rape their wives or girlfriends.  Parents no longer have the right to abuse their children in the name of "discipline".  Whites no longer have the right to insult, intimidate, assault or lynch Blacks, Asians, Latinos or Native Americans.  Straights can no longer bash gays, lesbians, transsexuals with impunity.

 

The entire "loss of freedoms" meme among conservatives is really a whine that straight white males, especially those with limited education and skills, are rapidly losing their privileges and have to compete with the untermenschen.

[Buffalo Bills Fan]

1 hour ago, SoTier said:

 

Actually, this is exactly the kind of "freedoms" that these Wacko Trumpists are whining about losing.   Men can no longer beat or rape their wives or girlfriends.  Parents no longer have the right to abuse their children in the name of "discipline".  Whites no longer have the right to insult, intimidate, assault or lynch Blacks, Asians, Latinos or Native Americans.  Straights can no longer bash gays, lesbians, transsexuals with impunity.

 

The entire "loss of freedoms" meme among conservatives is really a whine that straight white males, especially those with limited education and skills, are rapidly losing their privileges and have to compete with the untermenschen.

 

Honestly it's wrong for people to hurt people. Have all kind of friends even those gays and more.  Going to place play games saturday with him. Good guy i'm straight nothing wrong to be amazing to amazing  people and friends.  My mother and I drives black, good friends with indians. So much more kindness to people.  Hell help out all of the neighborhood out there.

 

Not all Trumpists are bad. But to label them is some kind of hate speech. Like the world has been following around for hate.

 

Just look at people hearts more then whatever you are. If you're good hearted a caring person that helps others. Those people are amazing.  This is what I think and do for others.  Always a friend to someone.

[\GoBillsInDallas/]

On 2/15/2021 at 10:20 AM, oldmanfan said:

What is the American Way of Life?

 

[Buffalo Bills Fan]

2 minutes ago, \GoBillsInDallas/ said:

 

 

You got that right LOL 

[oldmanfan]

16 minutes ago, \GoBillsInDallas/ said:

 

well, there is that....

[SoTier]

35 minutes ago, Buffalo Bills Fan said:

 

Honestly it's wrong for people to hurt people. Have all kind of friends even those gays and more.  Going to place play games saturday with him. Good guy i'm straight nothing wrong to be amazing to amazing  people and friends.  My mother and I drives black, good friends with indians. So much more kindness to people.  Hell help out all of the neighborhood out there.

 

Not all Trumpists are bad. But to label them is some kind of hate speech. Like the world has been following around for hate.

 

Just look at people hearts more then whatever you are. If you're good hearted a caring person that helps others. Those people are amazing.  This is what I think and do for others.  Always a friend to someone.

 

Sorry, but a person is known by the company he or she keeps.  Supporting Trump is tacitly supporting white supremacists, misogynists, and other assorted fascists he embraces as "patriots".  If you don't like being lumped in with such, then maybe you should take a critical look at the person you're supporting.

 

 

[Buffalo Bills Fan]

29 minutes ago, SoTier said:

 

Sorry, but a person is known by the company he or she keeps.  Supporting Trump is tacitly supporting white supremacists, misogynists, and other assorted fascists he embraces as "patriots".  If you don't like being lumped in with such, then maybe you should take a critical look at the person you're supporting.

 

 

 

I'm sorry i'm kind to everyone. With a good heart helping others. Enough said. 

[SoCal Deek]

1 hour ago, SoTier said:

 

Sorry, but a person is known by the company he or she keeps.  Supporting Trump is tacitly supporting white supremacists, misogynists, and other assorted fascists he embraces as "patriots".  If you don't like being lumped in with such, then maybe you should take a critical look at the person you're supporting.

 

 

Oh stop it with the lazy and tired White Supremacist crap. It's really juvenile. 

Edited February 17, 2021 by SoCal Deek

[Tiberius]

Immigration is as American as apple pie! Biden sending his immigration plan to Congress soon 

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Advocates for immigrants cheered plans to formally introduce the bill, the broad outlines of which Biden sent to Congress on his first day in office, but said they doubted it would pass. Democrats hold the House, but they need at least 10 Republican votes to reach the 60-vote threshold to pass the Senate.

Advocates and dozens of lawmakers are urging Senate Democrats to instead legalize at least 5 million undocumented immigrants this year through the budget reconciliation process, which requires a simple majority to pass. That group would include essential workers, immigrants who arrived as children and people with temporary protected status.

Erika Andiola, an immigrant from Mexico whose relatives faced deportation under the Obama administration, called the Biden bill “a good symbolic gesture, but it’s not enough to protect people like me, my family and my community.”

Frank Sharry, executive director of America’s Voice, an advocacy organization, said passing citizenship through reconciliation is “the best shot we have this year.”

“There is a point where Joe Biden is going to have to decide,” said Nicole Melaku, executive director of the National Partnership for New Americans, a coalition of immigrant advocacy groups. “There is a moment where every disposable tool in his toolbox will need to be pulled out whether or not Republicans come along.”

Senior administration officials who promoted the bill late Wednesday repeatedly declined to say whether they are considering using the reconciliation process to pass citizenship.

“It’s just too early to speculate about it right now,” the aide said.

 

https://www.washingtonpost.com/immigration/democrats-introduce-biden-citizenship-bill/2021/02/18/e843bb22-7179-11eb-b8a9-b9467510f0fe_story.html

[Over 29 years of fanhood]

5 minutes ago, Tiberius said:

Immigration is as American as apple pie! Biden sending his immigration plan to Congress soon 

https://www.washingtonpost.com/immigration/democrats-introduce-biden-citizenship-bill/2021/02/18/e843bb22-7179-11eb-b8a9-b9467510f0fe_story.html

Absolutely. For the most part in my experience, and while a generalization informed by personal experience; immigrants, first and second generation Americans value work hard and education and contribute more than not, and also are a key contributor to entrepreneurial small business growth.  I wish it would motivate those that take opportunity for granted or sit around waiting for everything to be handed to them. 

[Orlando Tim]

On 2/15/2021 at 12:43 PM, oldmanfan said:

No they aren’t.  Other than COVID which is a unique situation demanding public health measures, how are individual freedoms being taken away.  Mine aren’t, nor are they for anyone I know.

 

I am not sure where you live but the lockdown of NY and CA have turned many of  my students towards being libertarians. In FL I am allowed to live my life as I see fit and the intelligent among us have no problems staying healthy while my students extended family is still not able to do anything close to normal. But as for the original question: the American way is freedom from government interference except when necessary, which defining necessary is where we can have some issues.

[Big Blitz]

 

 

[Over 29 years of fanhood]

6 hours ago, Big Blitz said:

 

 

not enough people talk about #2. If you raise children as a single parent, the data spanning all ethnicities shows it is a statistically poor outcome with a coin toss of ending up in poverty and involvement in crime is likely. I wish conservatives would stop worrying about the gender, race, religion, sexuality, gender preference etc, and get behind the value of family no matter it’s make up. Single parents have the deck stacked against them in a litany of ways as the outcomes show. 
 

I’ve argued this with tons of conservatives.. The family unit message has a lot of value, but the caveat on who is allowed to participate and how makes zero sense.

 

If you’re the party of individualism, then promoted general ubiquitous values, and ‘let individuals be individuals!!’
 

 

[SoTier]

On 2/18/2021 at 11:29 AM, Over 29 years of fanhood said:

Absolutely. For the most part in my experience, and while a generalization informed by personal experience; immigrants, first and second generation Americans value work hard and education and contribute more than not, and also are a key contributor to entrepreneurial small business growth.  I wish it would motivate those that take opportunity for granted or sit around waiting for everything to be handed to them. 

 

Agreed.  People don't pack up their lives to move to a new country unless they are very determined to change their lives.  That was as true in the 1840s and 1890s and 1920s as it is today.   I think that it's the ambition and success of immigrants that has fired up anti-immigration feeling among native born Americans (nativism)  throughout US history, especially among those who are struggling economically for whatever reason.  Immigrants are easy targets, especially when they come in large numbers and seem "alien" like Irish Catholics, Chinese, Catholics and Jews from Southern and Eastern Europe, Mexicans and other Hispanics, etc.

[Orlando Tim]

On 2/19/2021 at 6:36 PM, Over 29 years of fanhood said:

not enough people talk about #2. If you raise children as a single parent, the data spanning all ethnicities shows it is a statistically poor outcome with a coin toss of ending up in poverty and involvement in crime is likely. I wish conservatives would stop worrying about the gender, race, religion, sexuality, gender preference etc, and get behind the value of family no matter it’s make up. Single parents have the deck stacked against them in a litany of ways as the outcomes show. 
 

I’ve argued this with tons of conservatives.. The family unit message has a lot of value, but the caveat on who is allowed to participate and how makes zero sense.

 

If you’re the party of individualism, then promoted general ubiquitous values, and ‘let individuals be individuals!!’
 

 

you have argued this point with conservatives? You feel it is conservative people who don't encourage a proper family enough? Yet the more liberal a person is the more likely they are to be and have a single parent. Your initial point is correct but I can't imagine a conservative who is under 80 that argues blacks don't deserve a proper family 

[SoCal Deek]

23 hours ago, SoTier said:

 

Agreed.  People don't pack up their lives to move to a new country unless they are very determined to change their lives.  That was as true in the 1840s and 1890s and 1920s as it is today.   I think that it's the ambition and success of immigrants that has fired up anti-immigration feeling among native born Americans (nativism)  throughout US history, especially among those who are struggling economically for whatever reason.  Immigrants are easy targets, especially when they come in large numbers and seem "alien" like Irish Catholics, Chinese, Catholics and Jews from Southern and Eastern Europe, Mexicans and other Hispanics, etc.

The current debate has little to nothing to do with the race of these immigrants. As Americans we’re taught from an early age to stand in line and wait your turn. We learn it in kindergarten! It’s beaten into us from when we’re very small. So much so that now if someone puts stickers on the floor ‘suggesting’ we stand six feet apart, we automatically comply (it’s a bit odd when you think about it).  The complaint is that the current group of immigrants are not respecting our border, and our cultural normal of ... waiting their turn. It’s not complicated. 

 

Edited February 21, 2021 by SoCal Deek

[dickleyjones]

The "American way of Life". What a farce. Not much difference between usa and the rest of the western world, if any.

 

Perhaps the American way is...thinking there is an American way?

 

Get over yourselves. We are not so different.

 

Sincerely,

 

A Canadian who loves you

 

 

[SoCal Deek]

Just now, dickleyjones said:

The "American way of Life". What a farce. Not much difference between usa and the rest of the western world, if any.

 

Perhaps the American way is...thinking there is an American way?

 

Get over yourselves. We are not so different.

 

Sincerely,

 

A Canadian who loves you

 

 

You clearly haven’t traveled much. 

Just now, dickleyjones said:

Wrong.

Right

[dickleyjones]

1 minute ago, SoCal Deek said:

You clearly haven’t traveled much. 

Wrong.

[SoCal Deek]

Just now, dickleyjones said:

Wrong.

Driving into Buffalo doesn’t count. 😉

[dickleyjones]

Just now, SoCal Deek said:

Driving into Buffalo doesn’t count. 😉

But i have done that at least twice now!

[Orlando Tim]

1 hour ago, dickleyjones said:

But i have done that at least twice now!

I honestly do not understand how you can state the USA is clearly different than most of the rest of the world. I think the differences make us superior but even you don't think we are superior the difference between how our country is built vs Europe is built is easily noticable if you leave the inner cities.

[SoTier]

3 hours ago, SoCal Deek said:

The current debate has little to nothing to do with the race of these immigrants. As Americans we’re taught from an early age to stand in line and wait your turn. We learn it in kindergarten! It’s beaten into us from when we’re very small. So much so that now if someone puts stickers on the floor ‘suggesting’ we stand six feet apart, we automatically comply (it’s a bit odd when you think about it).  The complaint is that the current group of immigrants are not respecting our border, and our cultural normal of ... waiting their turn. It’s not complicated. 

 

 

Bull crap.  Lie to yourself if you want but how come there's never been talk about building a wall to protect the US from the "menace" of "illegals" from Canada?   Until Covid-19 closed US-Canadian border, a Canadian citizen who wanted to come live in the US drove to the Peace Bridge or the Queenston Lewiston Bridge, showed ID, told the Border Patrol he/she/they were going on vacation in NYC or North Carolina or whatever, and went on his/her/their merry way.    The only way these "illegals" get caught is if/when they run afoul of the law.  No raids by la migra in Buffalo or NYC or Boston to scoop up Canadian "illegals", only raids to nab Mexicans and Chinese who don't have green cards.

Edited February 21, 2021 by SoTier

[BillStime]

What is the American way of life?

 

Right F'ing here:

 

 

 

 

[All_Pro_Bills]

3 hours ago, SoTier said:

 

Bull crap.  Lie to yourself if you want but how come there's never been talk about building a wall to protect the US from the "menace" of "illegals" from Canada?   Until Covid-19 closed US-Canadian border, a Canadian citizen who wanted to come live in the US drove to the Peace Bridge or the Queenston Lewiston Bridge, showed ID, told the Border Patrol he/she/they were going on vacation in NYC or North Carolina or whatever, and went on his/her/their merry way.    The only way these "illegals" get caught is if/when they run afoul of the law.  No raids by la migra in Buffalo or NYC or Boston to scoop up Canadian "illegals", only raids to nab Mexicans and Chinese who don't have green cards.

You're insinuating some racial motivation to stop people of Latino decent, specifically Mexican to enter the country although most of the recent "undocumented" are from Central American countries.  Countries where the US spends billions supporting unpopular and typically oppressive and corrupt regimes.  Assuming they really care about human rights vs. acquiring political power by bitching about things but taking no action to stop bad policy maybe the left should focus on eliminating the dictators our government bankrolls and supports which abuse human rights and inflict suffering on their people.  But what you're suggesting is that because most Canadians are white they get a free pass.  The go-to move of the left.  Have no proof or facts or hard data, pull out the race card.  That we all know explains everything when facts are inconvenient. 

 

But I think the reason there's no talk about a norther border wall is because there is no problem to address.  Unless there's some problem with a big number of Canadian street gang members sneaking across the border and politely forcing American's to watch Curling and eat donuts.  I don't think so.   

[SoCal Deek]

6 hours ago, SoTier said:

 

Bull crap.  Lie to yourself if you want but how come there's never been talk about building a wall to protect the US from the "menace" of "illegals" from Canada?   Until Covid-19 closed US-Canadian border, a Canadian citizen who wanted to come live in the US drove to the Peace Bridge or the Queenston Lewiston Bridge, showed ID, told the Border Patrol he/she/they were going on vacation in NYC or North Carolina or whatever, and went on his/her/their merry way.    The only way these "illegals" get caught is if/when they run afoul of the law.  No raids by la migra in Buffalo or NYC or Boston to scoop up Canadian "illegals", only raids to nab Mexicans and Chinese who don't have green cards.

You are an odd person. There are no large caravans of people sneaking into the US from Canada.  Let's not jump the shark here!  (By the way, I live in Southern California, and here you'd actually spot a Canadian in less than five minutes.)  You really need to get out more....you'll learn something by leaving the Southern Tier.

[TH3]

On 2/19/2021 at 12:00 PM, Big Blitz said:

 

 

White dude says what?

[Buffarukus]

On 2/15/2021 at 1:54 PM, oldmanfan said:

  What exactly has people so worked up that they feel “their” America is being lost, “their” freedoms are being taken away?   What freedoms do you not have that you had 5-10 years ago?  

 

are you a small buisness owner? i think they have the right to provide for their families and not be arbitrarily shut down under threats fines and padlocks. no scientific evidence, complying with cdc guidelines and hypocritical big box stores open right next door...as a start losing everything you built up over your lifetime and no way to put food on the table might have people worked up

 

are you religious? did you want to peacefully assemble to practice your faith last year? even though it is in the constitution and other groupings were allowed to group as they pleased?

 

do you think you have a right to protect yourself and your belongings from others without prosecution? how many were denied that right last year?

 

can you enjoy freedom of speech? do you think that extends to others who don't have your political or social ideaology? do you think all those that lost their livelihoods because a mob decided they "deserved" it?

 

would you like to read a book on the negative effects transgenderism is having on teenagers? the ACLU (they used to stand up for free speach) tryed and was successful at blocking its sale for a time. would you like to talk about or obtain information on covid medically and origins that is not confirmed with the mainstream, how about elections? see how far the convo goes before its censored. 

 

would you like to buy stock in a company called gamestop? it was perfectly legal..nope. shut down. but only if your hurting the hedgefund gov financiers.

 

would you like to use a buisness service alternative to twitter. a legitamate competitor that broke no laws but was still shut down by major tech monopolies under lies that it promoted extremism..while facebook where the groups really formed was unmentioned and untouched.

 

soon we will be talking about gun rights..thats coming.

 

im glad you still have all your freedoms and rights but look outside yourself to see whats happening.

these were just a few things i guess we took for granted 5 10 years ago.

 

should i go on?

 

 

Edited February 22, 2021 by Buffarukus

[oldmanfan]

3 hours ago, Buffarukus said:

 

are you a small buisness owner? i think they have the right to provide for their families and not be arbitrarily shut down under threats fines and padlocks. no scientific evidence, complying with cdc guidelines and hypocritical big box stores open right next door...as a start losing everything you built up over your lifetime and no way to put food on the table might have people worked up

 

are you religious? did you want to peacefully assemble to practice your faith last year? even though it is in the constitution and other groupings were allowed to group as they pleased?

 

do you think you have a right to protect yourself and your belongings from others without prosecution? how many were denied that right last year?

 

can you enjoy freedom of speech? do you think that extends to others who don't have your political or social ideaology? do you think all those that lost their livelihoods because a mob decided they "deserved" it?

 

would you like to read a book on the negative effects transgenderism is having on teenagers? the ACLU (they used to stand up for free speach) tryed and was successful at blocking its sale for a time. would you like to talk about or obtain information on covid medically and origins that is not confirmed with the mainstream, how about elections? see how far the convo goes before its censored. 

 

would you like to buy stock in a company called gamestop? it was perfectly legal..nope. shut down. but only if your hurting the hedgefund gov financiers.

 

would you like to use a buisness service alternative to twitter. a legitamate competitor that broke no laws but was still shut down by major tech monopolies under lies that it promoted extremism..while facebook where the groups really formed was unmentioned and untouched.

 

soon we will be talking about gun rights..thats coming.

 

im glad you still have all your freedoms and rights but look outside yourself to see whats happening.

these were just a few things i guess we took for granted 5 10 years ago.

 

should i go on?

 

 

When I posted I specifically indicated the exception of the pandemic.  And people were complaining about there freedoms being taken away before it hit.   Small businesses need help and in the deal under the previous administration too much of the $$ went to big business instead.  I faithfully go to church every week but during the pandemic have done so virtually.  Or when I go in person do so masked and keep socially distanced.  And I don’t know where you live but where I live other groups had to follow the same rules.  
 

You misunderstand the first amendment and freedom of speech as many do.  You have the right to say anything against anyone, but you have to accept the consequences of such.  I am all for free exchange of ideas but they have to have some basis in reality.  So if one spreads false information on things like Covid treatments that needs to be checked because it can kill people.  I think you have the right to defend your property and I have said repeatedly that protest is fine but violence is not and that those doing such should go to jail.  Social media sites need to be looked at to determine if they are monopolies and need to be regulated more strictly, but they are businesses that can set their way an rules.  Would you want someone from outside setting your business’s rules?

 

Everyone in this country has the same rights under the Constitution.  No more, no less.

[dickleyjones]

21 hours ago, Buffalo Timmy said:

I honestly do not understand how you can state the USA is clearly different than most of the rest of the world. I think the differences make us superior but even you don't think we are superior the difference between how our country is built vs Europe is built is easily noticable if you leave the inner cities.

Sure there are differences, mostly superficial. Far more similarities. For example, we think we are superior too. I'm sure most western countries do.

Edited February 22, 2021 by dickleyjones

[Buffarukus]

On 2/22/2021 at 4:47 AM, oldmanfan said:

When I posted I specifically indicated the exception of the pandemic.  And people were complaining about there freedoms being taken away before it hit.   Small businesses need help and in the deal under the previous administration too much of the $$ went to big business instead.  I faithfully go to church every week but during the pandemic have done so virtually.  Or when I go in person do so masked and keep socially distanced.  And I don’t know where you live but where I live other groups had to follow the s

 

you have to include whats happened during the pandemic. governments have historically used time of crisis/fear to whittle away at freedom and cease more control. its at this time people have to stay hyper vigilant. im not talking strictly democrats...for instance, see the patriot act and listen to what snowden says it entails

 

i agree with you that small buisness needs help but unfortunately its too little to late for many. the fact so many were arbitrarily closed with no guidelines to stay open is a direct power grab. like i said the basic human right to earn a living taken away and for many, its not coming back. the hypocracy of allowing big box stores to remain open while funneling all revenue in their direction when there was no evidence it slowed any spread. there was info later on where places like barber shops  showed miniscule spread. this was how small buisness and middle class were targeted for no legitimate reason. hindsight is not making that reasoning, as many were protesting these truths a very long time ago. 

 

as for religion. many were closed. jewish temples were overtly targeted with padlocks in NYC. yet thousands protested in much larger groups. both are under rights to peacefully assemble correct? there is also the division of church and state that was trampled. not sure how the two are any different. luckly the supreme court stepped in...it the only reason both ruling are being laxed, under direct court order.

 

 

On 2/22/2021 at 4:47 AM, oldmanfan said:

You misunderstand the first amendment and freedom of speech as many do.  You have the right to say anything against anyone, but you have to accept the consequences of such.  I am all for free exchange of ideas but they have to have some basis in reality.  So if one spreads false information on things like Covid treatments that needs to be checked because it can kill people.  I think you have the right to defend your property and I have said repeatedly that protest is fine but violence is not and that those doing such should go to jail.  Social media sites need to be looked at to determine if they are monopolies and need to be regulated more strictly, but they are businesses that can set their way an rules.  Would you want someone from outside setting your business’s rules?

 

Everyone in this country has the same rights under the Constitution.  No more, no less.

 

unfortunatly you don't seem to understand how deep censorship has gotten. i dont think i can tell you just how many people have been "cancelled" and lost thier livelihoods for simply speaking their own mind on a topic that does not fit the narrative. not spewing conspiracies, not attacking anyone yet those that have made direct death threats are perfectly fine. promient people who called for the killing of children (covington). antifa who can and STILL organize to this day on platforms. this isn't about terms of service or consequences for wrong actions. its not even close to equal. this is about steering society into the condemnation of those who don't agree. say its a private company and go elsewhere and when you do.. they attack it with ( a place where HATE SPEECH is allowed to thrive ). label anything hate speech and its easy to shut things down. wallstreet bets were labeled all those thing...even russians! to try and get them to stop forcing hedgefunds to pay on their shortselling, eventually they just unlawfully stopped the ability to buy the stock.

 

that's not the america i knew and it definitely is not a example of having "the same rights no more or less"

Edited February 23, 2021 by Buffarukus

[SoTier]

On 2/21/2021 at 3:51 PM, All_Pro_Bills said:

You're insinuating some racial motivation to stop people of Latino decent, specifically Mexican to enter the country although most of the recent "undocumented" are from Central American countries.  Countries where the US spends billions supporting unpopular and typically oppressive and corrupt regimes.  Assuming they really care about human rights vs. acquiring political power by bitching about things but taking no action to stop bad policy maybe the left should focus on eliminating the dictators our government bankrolls and supports which abuse human rights and inflict suffering on their people.  But what you're suggesting is that because most Canadians are white they get a free pass.  The go-to move of the left.  Have no proof or facts or hard data, pull out the race card.  That we all know explains everything when facts are inconvenient. 

 

But I think the reason there's no talk about a norther border wall is because there is no problem to address.  Unless there's some problem with a big number of Canadian street gang members sneaking across the border and politely forcing American's to watch Curling and eat donuts.  I don't think so.   

 

                                                                                                   

 

Thank you for proving that my statement was absolutely correct. 

 

On 2/21/2021 at 6:35 PM, SoCal Deek said:

You are an odd person. There are no large caravans of people sneaking into the US from Canada.  Let's not jump the shark here!  (By the way, I live in Southern California, and here you'd actually spot a Canadian in less than five minutes.)  You really need to get out more....you'll learn something by leaving the Southern Tier.

 

Oh, but there are lots of people who smuggle illegal Chinese immigrants across the Canadian border, especially across the Niagara and Detroit Rivers.   I guess those arrests don't make the news in So Cal so they don't count, right?   

 

More importantly, spotting illegal Canadians isn't the problem.  Assuming that Canadians who are here are either tourists or here legally while assuming that Latinos are here illegally is the problem.  

 

 

 

 

 

 

[SoCal Deek]

54 minutes ago, SoTier said:

Oh, but there are lots of people who smuggle illegal Chinese immigrants across the Canadian border, especially across the Niagara and Detroit Rivers.   I guess those arrests don't make the news in So Cal so they don't count, right?   

 

More importantly, spotting illegal Canadians isn't the problem.  Assuming that Canadians who are here are either tourists or here legally while assuming that Latinos are here illegally is the problem.  

 

 

 

 

 

 

And now we’ve jumped the shark and the whale in one leap. I cannot possibly understand where you’re going here. First it’s all about racism and skin color and now you believe that Chinese people are the same race as Canadians? Let me explain: all illegal immigration is bad for America. Do you think it’s good? 

[dickleyjones]

7 hours ago, SoTier said:

 

                                                                                                   

 

Thank you for proving that my statement was absolutely correct. 

 

 

Oh, but there are lots of people who smuggle illegal Chinese immigrants across the Canadian border, especially across the Niagara and Detroit Rivers.   I guess those arrests don't make the news in So Cal so they don't count, right?   

 

More importantly, spotting illegal Canadians isn't the problem.  Assuming that Canadians who are here are either tourists or here legally while assuming that Latinos are here illegally is the problem.  

 

 

It seems you are also making assumptions. Canadians have a multitude of ethnic backgrounds including Chinese and Latino.

Edited February 23, 2021 by dickleyjones

[SoCal Deek]

13 hours ago, dickleyjones said:

It seems you are also making assumptions. Canadians have a multitude of ethnic backgrounds including Chinese and Latino.

You mean they aren't all lily white lumberjacks and maple syrup farmers? Who knew? 

[All_Pro_Bills]

I ran across this blog which I think is relevant to the topic and the current state of the country.  To me its spot on as to the source of all the anger and conflict we are witnessing and in some cases participating. 

 

http://charleshughsmith.blogspot.com/2021/02/what-normal-are-we-returning-to.html

 

 

[oldmanfan]

1 hour ago, All_Pro_Bills said:

I ran across this blog which I think is relevant to the topic and the current state of the country.  To me its spot on as to the source of all the anger and conflict we are witnessing and in some cases participating. 

 

http://charleshughsmith.blogspot.com/2021/02/what-normal-are-we-returning-to.html

 

 

Very interesting perspective

[SoCal Deek]

11 hours ago, oldmanfan said:

Very interesting perspective

How hard is this to figure out? You import millions and millions of poor people and transfer our manufacturing base overseas and what do you get? Answer: a hollowed out middle class. It’s not complicated. (PS: reducing the upper tax bracket from 37.5% back to 35% didn’t cause this.)

Edited March 2, 2021 by SoCal Deek