JerseyBills Posted November 16, 2020 Share Posted November 16, 2020 Relax guys. We played a very good team and was a fluke play short of winning. We got a great team and coaches. And Dabol especially is making great play calls. Our D has looked great , despite the stats. I think Edmund's is the reason why, I feel he got fully healthy and has looked much better. We get Milano,Levi,Norman , Marlow back for the playoff run We'll be fine! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted November 16, 2020 Share Posted November 16, 2020 13 minutes ago, JerseyBills said: We'll be fine. We're a fluke play away from being 8-2 and the quality of QBs we'll be facing coming up is nowhere near Wilson,Murray back to back. The defense also took a major hit the day before the game with the Covid players. We'll be fine. I'm surprisingly not even that upset today . The team proved again they can hang with anybody and are one of the best teams in the game Fluke play or 1 blown play the point is when you have a double digit lead you don’t blow it. I forgot to mention the Houston Playoff game. “Blowing a double digit lead in the back half of the game” is not the trait of a great coordinator! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hebert19 Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 2 hours ago, SydneyBillsFan said: True. But it's also a numbers game: - 32 v Rams - 28 v Fish - 24 v Raiders - 42 v Titans - 26 v KC (in BAD weather) - 21 v Pats (would likely have been 28 if Cam doesn't fumble) - 34 v Hawks - 32 v Cards These are simply not "Playoff Calibre" numbers. If I am McD, I am putting Frazier on notice. They are playoff caliber numbers this year. The average is crazy high. Now is it superbowl caliber...no. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddogblitz Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 20 hours ago, IronMaidenBills said: Outside of Allen being possibly hurt on the play, there is absolutely nothing to lose by allowing your athletic star QB a chance to save the team he lead for a game winning drive. You pull out a D lineman and leave Allen in the end zone. It gives him a chance to play hero ball. If you ever played QB you would understand. I played QB and I think it's a bone headed idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samwell Tarly Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 Blame Frazier if it makes you feel better, but judging by average points allowed, the Bills are actually middle of the pack. Guess half the league needs to fire their DC'S. The league has bent over backwards to help offenses. Investing heavily in defense is an expensive strategy with diminished returns. Some of these teams are going to drop 30+ on you regardless, so fight fire with fire. The best defense now is putting up 35 or more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blacklabel Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 (edited) They've said it a few times now that they're still developing an identity on defense. They lost a big time leader in Lorenzo, they lose Star who does the dirty work, they lose Shaq who does very well setting the edge. They lose Jordan Phillips who, IMO, isn't the worst loss, most of his 9.5 sacks last season can be credited to the secondary. And then there are a slew of players grinding through injuries, Edmunds, Tre, Wallace, Hyde, Poyer, and of course Milano who is a cornerstone piece to this defense. Addison and Hughes are solid players but they're both 32 or 33 and that's around the time when guys begin to lose a step. Quinton Jefferson hasn't been very noticeable, Harrison Phillips is struggling (is he still not quite right from the knee injury?), Ed Oliver is creating pressures a lot of times but not quite getting the sack or TFL, all sorts of things. It's tough for sure. They have the new guys and then they have to adjust for injuries and that type of stuff can take away from the chemistry teams can create. This is the most roster overturn they've had on defense in the McBeane era and I think it's just a long process to figure out the best lineup, the best way to maximize skill sets, the situations where players can be most successful, a lot goes into it. My hope is that they come back after the bye recharged and ready to knock out these last six games with sweet sweet victory. I expect the Beaneman to work diligently in the off-season to upgrade the defense. Edited November 17, 2020 by blacklabel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBBills Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 The only real reason would be b.c the Bills are not allowed to have too many good times anymore. So they need to be beaten down by the gods themselves Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Call_Of_Ktulu Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 I wish we could pound the ball in the running game when those defenses go into dime or aomiba against us Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bubba Gump Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 Aye aye aye poppy. This board gets harder to read week to week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerseyBills Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 49 minutes ago, SlimShady'sSpaceForce said: Fluke play or 1 blown play the point is when you have a double digit lead you don’t blow it. I forgot to mention the Houston Playoff game. “Blowing a double digit lead in the back half of the game” is not the trait of a great coordinator! You got a point but the offense and ST put the D in terrible situations nearly the whole 2nd half. After painfully watching the game again, the condensed version, my thoughts on this team hasn't changed. They are a great team imo and should make a deep run. In this game, there's so little that separates the great from the elite. I hope we can get to that elite status in the final 6+ games. Again, nothing changed from thinking this team can make a SB run after yesterday. Not only can we play with the big dogs. We are 1 of the big dogs. I have complete faith in the talent and coaching on this team. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 8 minutes ago, JerseyBills said: You got a point but the offense and ST put the D in terrible situations nearly the whole 2nd half. After painfully watching the game again, the condensed version, my thoughts on this team hasn't changed. They are a great team imo and should make a deep run. In this game, there's so little that separates the great from the elite. I hope we can get to that elite status in the final 6+ games. Again, nothing changed from thinking this team can make a SB run after yesterday. Not only can we play with the big dogs. We are 1 of the big dogs. I have complete faith in the talent and coaching on this team. one bad muffed punt - yeah it hurt but it was really a one off. I recall all the dumb BoJo threads and posts. Bass is improving. The one DONK was a lucky bounce. Not to mention flag happy refs. 2nd half adjustments take too long imo and that’s why people complain about coaching Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billsatlastin2018 Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 On 11/15/2020 at 7:55 PM, BringBackFergy said: Knox? Knox????? He would have tipped the ball to Hopkins, interfered with him, bonked his head and contracted the Mumps all within 6 seconds. The dude is a walking pandemic. Damn... that’s good! I’m just white hot angry about this total coaching buffoonery, so that took the edge off! 23 hours ago, matter2003 said: Bad posters bringing this forum down. Yeah, I know. The posters have been suiting up every Sunday during this Five Alarm Tire Fire Millennium! 🙄Come on man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buftex Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 2 hours ago, HOUSE said: One lucky pass and the whole City has become un glued I am always amused by the extremes that fans go to, with Daboll. Win, and we are worried that another team will ***** him away from us, and ruin everything we have going with Allen...lose, and we can't get him out of town fast enough. We are a passionate fan-base, no doubt...but I really don't think, collectively, we are any smarter than fans in any other city. We are as bi-polar a fan base as it gets! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 [This is an automated response] The topic title is potentially misleading. Accurate titles help the community find topics relevant to their interests and avoids reader frustration. Please change the topic title to more accurately reflect content of the original post.The topic starter can edit the topic title line to make it more appropriate. Thank you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 3 hours ago, SydneyBillsFan said: Must admit that I am beginning to lose faith in Leslie. From last year we have lost Star, Shaq and Jordan Phillips. We have gained Harry, Jefferson, Addison, Epanesa, Norman and Butler. On paper at least, I would argue that the difference in talent lost v talent acquired is negligible. I recognise that COVID and injuries have played their part but it is still hard to justify the substantial drop in performance. The buck stops with Leslie Frazier. I would have said the same about talent lost v acquired on paper, but the problem is that football games are played on grass, on Sunday We had a big opt-out in Star. We have his rotational partner at 1TDT Phillips not playing as well as he had been before he was hurt, which may be understandable, and our LB playing injured. So the talent we retained, is not as it was. Two other factors: 1) playing more good teams this year 2) Not saying he's become a turnover machine, but Josh and our ST have put the D in a few more bad spots more this year than they did last year after the first NE game. The Titans game was the worst. Even so, we're starting to see stretches of stout defense. They're just having a bit of trouble putting together an entire game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marvlevydraftdaygenius Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 4 hours ago, JGMcD2 said: You lost me when you failed to string together a proper sentence to begin your post. Edit: You’re referencing the Chargers game from two years ago? Why is that relevant to the current version of the Buffalo Bills over 32 games later? I am sorry Leslie is your father. 6 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: I would have said the same about talent lost v acquired on paper, but the problem is that football games are played on grass, on Sunday We had a big opt-out in Star. We have his rotational partner at 1TDT Phillips not playing as well as he had been before he was hurt, which may be understandable, and our LB playing injured. So the talent we retained, is not as it was. Two other factors: 1) playing more good teams this year 2) Not saying he's become a turnover machine, but Josh and our ST have put the D in a few more bad spots more this year than they did last year after the first NE game. The Titans game was the worst. Even so, we're starting to see stretches of stout defense. They're just having a bit of trouble putting together an entire game. Don't give me that. When Star played everyone on this board was attacking him for not living up to his contract. 12 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: [This is an automated response] The topic title is potentially misleading. Accurate titles help the community find topics relevant to their interests and avoids reader frustration. Please change the topic title to more accurately reflect content of the original post.The topic starter can edit the topic title line to make it more appropriate. Thank you. When your offense in two games scores over 70 points that is good right. But when your defense gives up 66 points that is bad in those same 2 games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JGMcD2 Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Marvlevydraftdaygenius said: I am sorry Leslie is your father. Don't give me that. When Star played everyone on this board was attacking him for not living up to his contract. When your offense in two games scores over 70 points that is good right. But when your defense gives up 66 points that is bad in those same 2 games. I am sorry your father didn’t teach you proper English? Boom. Roasted. 60% of games in the NFL are decided by a score or less. Get over it. Let’s also neglect to mention it was against two of the top 5 offenses in the NFL. Edited November 17, 2020 by JGMcD2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LB48 Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 4 hours ago, SydneyBillsFan said: Must admit that I am beginning to lose faith in Leslie. From last year we have lost Star, Shaq and Jordan Phillips. We have gained Harry, Jefferson, Addison, Epanesa, Norman and Butler. On paper at least, I would argue that the difference in talent lost v talent acquired is negligible. I recognise that COVID and injuries have played their part but it is still hard to justify the substantial drop in performance. The buck stops with Leslie Frazier. I'm sorry to repeat myself but - Addison, Butler and Jefferson are NO SHOWS every week! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LB48 Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 We have an abundance of TALENT on offense. We are short of TALENT on defense. You can coach all you want but if your players are a bit inferior to the opposition you lose! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 5 hours ago, Jauronimo said: ***** no one said when our defense carried the team the last 2 years. Actually there were a few idiots then and some now. There always seem to be a few including some who go to far to become stalkers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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