Hapless Bills Fan Posted November 11, 2020 Share Posted November 11, 2020 https://www.buffalobills.com/video/every-stefon-diggs-catch-from-his-118-yard-game-week-9 about 50 seconds in. Diggs makes the catch for the first down, gains about 10 yds RAC, and finishes up with a nifty slide. 4 SeaSnakes defenders are closing on him when he slides and they're all like standing around looking a bit confused. I think on some teams, a few of them would hit Diggs anyway and take their chances that the refs wouldn't call it. I don't remember if I've ever seen a WR do this. I guess I thought the "player who gives himself up" and slides rule only applies to QBs, because after all football is a tough game where usually players take pride in fighting for every yard. But of course we had a good lead at the time and Diggs had just gained another 10 or so YAC. I didn't know what to think at the time but I decided it's smart savvy football. Diggs is tough and will make those contested catches where he knows he's going to get hammered and fight for every yard when he needs it; why shouldn't he save his body and slide or go out of bounds when he can? Plus of course he's in the redzone, and if they managed to hold him up and strip the ball it could turn the game. I was just surprised at the time. I can't recall seeing another WR do this Thoughts? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted November 11, 2020 Share Posted November 11, 2020 Any player with the ball can "give himself up" in the field of play. Tre White did it last year after an interception. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted November 11, 2020 Share Posted November 11, 2020 (edited) Yeah but what was up with the high stepping he was doing out there on a couple of plays? That was a bit odd. Not sure Coach wants him doing that. Edited November 11, 2020 by SoCal Deek 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plano Posted November 11, 2020 Share Posted November 11, 2020 1 minute ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: https://www.buffalobills.com/video/every-stefon-diggs-catch-from-his-118-yard-game-week-9 about 50 seconds in. Diggs makes the catch for the first down, gains about 10 yds RAC, and finishes up with a nifty slide. 4 SeaSnakes defenders are closing on him when he slides and they're all like standing around looking a bit confused. I think on some teams, a few of them would hit Diggs anyway and take their chances that the refs wouldn't call it. I don't remember if I've ever seen a WR do this. I guess I thought the "player who gives himself up" and slides rule only applies to QBs, because after all football is a tough game where usually players take pride in fighting for every yard. But of course we had a good lead at the time and Diggs had just gained another 10 or so YAC. I didn't know what to think at the time but I decided it's smart savvy football. Diggs is tough and will make those contested catches where he knows he's going to get hammered and fight for every yard when he needs it; why shouldn't he save his body and slide or go out of bounds when he can? Plus of course he's in the redzone, and if they managed to hold him up and strip the ball it could turn the game. I was just surprised at the time. I can't recall seeing another WR do this Thoughts? I liked the move. I agree it is not often that you see that, but one could say that Beasley does the same at times when he catches the ball and kind of purposely tumbles/pulls forward after the catch, takes minimal contact on the ground. I was happy to see Diggs do it rather than take a hit. Smart football. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted November 11, 2020 Share Posted November 11, 2020 Marvin Harrison used to do this. He never took big hits in his career and probably why he was so good so long. 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted November 11, 2020 Share Posted November 11, 2020 2 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said: Yeah but what was up with the high stepping he was doing out there on a couple of plays? That was a bit odd. Not sure Coach wants him doing that. He was bored with their corners. Seattle reporter kept mentioning he was toying with them. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMF2006 Posted November 11, 2020 Share Posted November 11, 2020 Yes it was a life saving move. They need to do it more so they don't get banged up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted November 11, 2020 Author Share Posted November 11, 2020 5 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said: Yeah but what was up with the high stepping he was doing out there on a couple of plays? That was a bit odd. Not sure Coach wants him doing that. As I understand it's just another move in the arsenal to make guys miss. If you're running full bore it's hard on the joints and muscles to change speed (or change direction) suddenly but putting some air under your steps changes your speed and also allows a directional shift with less joint impact. I'm pretty sure Coach approves and may even be teaching it. Diggs is an artist and he was having fun out there. 6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted November 11, 2020 Share Posted November 11, 2020 Just now, YoloinOhio said: He was bored with their corners. Seattle reporter kept mentioning he was toying with them. That’s exactly the way I read it too...but it was still pretty darn odd. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badassgixxer05 Posted November 11, 2020 Share Posted November 11, 2020 1 minute ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: As I understand it's just another move in the arsenal to make guys miss. Yeah, ive seen motor do it a bunch too. its just to set a guy up for a juke. Like faking a cutback and then explode forward past him. 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted November 11, 2020 Share Posted November 11, 2020 2 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said: Yeah but what was up with the high stepping he was doing out there on a couple of plays? That was a bit odd. Not sure Coach wants him doing that. High stepping gives you the set up to hit a quick juke...he's not showboating. 13 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebandit27 Posted November 11, 2020 Share Posted November 11, 2020 14 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: https://www.buffalobills.com/video/every-stefon-diggs-catch-from-his-118-yard-game-week-9 about 50 seconds in. Diggs makes the catch for the first down, gains about 10 yds RAC, and finishes up with a nifty slide. 4 SeaSnakes defenders are closing on him when he slides and they're all like standing around looking a bit confused. I think on some teams, a few of them would hit Diggs anyway and take their chances that the refs wouldn't call it. I don't remember if I've ever seen a WR do this. I guess I thought the "player who gives himself up" and slides rule only applies to QBs, because after all football is a tough game where usually players take pride in fighting for every yard. But of course we had a good lead at the time and Diggs had just gained another 10 or so YAC. I didn't know what to think at the time but I decided it's smart savvy football. Diggs is tough and will make those contested catches where he knows he's going to get hammered and fight for every yard when he needs it; why shouldn't he save his body and slide or go out of bounds when he can? Plus of course he's in the redzone, and if they managed to hold him up and strip the ball it could turn the game. I was just surprised at the time. I can't recall seeing another WR do this Thoughts? I feel like Marvin Harrison used to do this fairly often Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBill Posted November 11, 2020 Share Posted November 11, 2020 Was a smart play. No need to risk an injury at that point. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magox Posted November 11, 2020 Share Posted November 11, 2020 The high stepping is not a showboat move. It's to change gears, going at one speed, slows down which causes the defender to slow down and gives him the opportunity to accelerate after the slow down and to go by the defender. 7 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted November 11, 2020 Share Posted November 11, 2020 2 minutes ago, thebandit27 said: I feel like Marvin Harrison used to do this fairly often Plagiarism 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TroutDog Posted November 11, 2020 Share Posted November 11, 2020 5 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said: High stepping gives you the set up to hit a quick juke...he's not showboating. Was common in the 80’s: they’re just bringing it back. 😃 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TonyBeets Posted November 11, 2020 Share Posted November 11, 2020 I don't care which receiver it is. Please just slide. We can't risk injury. No Earl Campbell's please! Josh this means you too! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptnCoke11 Posted November 11, 2020 Share Posted November 11, 2020 18 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said: Yeah but what was up with the high stepping he was doing out there on a couple of plays? That was a bit odd. Not sure Coach wants him doing that. He can high step all he wants putting up those numbers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted November 11, 2020 Share Posted November 11, 2020 14 minutes ago, badassgixxer05 said: Yeah, ive seen motor do it a bunch too. its just to set a guy up for a juke. Like faking a cutback and then explode forward past him. Yes that’s what I thought of - it almost freezes the defender Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bookie Man Posted November 11, 2020 Share Posted November 11, 2020 I remember Chris Carter did this a few times pretty much every game. And Randy Moss started doing it also when they played together. I'm okay with it when there's 3-4 guys there. Less punishment to your body and no risk of fumble. Robert Woods got stripped a few times trying to power through defenders. But he's f$#@ing crazy though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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