GunnerBill Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 I've just found the negative. He kinda stumbled over his words when breaking down the huddle in the locker room after. Gotta get better at that. C+. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 Isn't it amazing how all the local trolls just magically disappear as this team keeps winning and Josh keeps lighting teams up? 3 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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GunnerBill Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 48 minutes ago, Warcodered said: He should be right in that conversation. Russ has cooled off a touch the last four weeks, Rodgers has been efficient but not spectacular, Mahomes is Mahomes and maybe we are so used to it that we take his play for granted a little but Josh is right there. If Wilson finishes strong he will win it. But Josh is a legitimate MVP contender. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 (edited) 80 % last night 69.9 % 139.1% Rating last night Not 105. Do you see now why this season thread is kind of misleading? 80% not whatever 69 % you have in the title. Start a new thread ans celebrate what is and forget the past. We get it. You hated the pick. Now you love him Edited December 8, 2020 by SlimShady'sSpaceForce 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 1 minute ago, SlimShady'sSpaceForce said: 80 % last night Do you see now why this season thread is kind of misleading? 80% not whatever 69 % you have in the title. Start a new thread ans celebrate what is and forget the past. I understand your point, but this thread is building to a culmination of an entire season. The haters have ragged on JA since day one. Heck, the trolls STILL come out of the woodworks every time this team loses a game or Josh isn't perfect. The clowns with microphones in front of them still spit the same tired rhetoric about his game in many instances while trying to downplay his accomplishments as fluke at times. Last night was 80%, but he's at almost 70% for the entirety of 12 games this season and that's even with mixing in a couple of duds. The kid is a monster, a LEGITIMATE MVP candidate, and he's getting better right before our very eyes. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magox Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 1 hour ago, H2o said: Isn't it amazing how all the local trolls just magically disappear as this team keeps winning and Josh keeps lighting teams up? Good, Yet another reason to root for good performances from J.A Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 (edited) 17 minutes ago, H2o said: I understand your point, but this thread is building to a culmination of an entire season. The haters have ragged on JA since day one. Heck, the trolls STILL come out of the woodworks every time this team loses a game or Josh isn't perfect. The clowns with microphones in front of them still spit the same tired rhetoric about his game in many instances while trying to downplay his accomplishments as fluke at times. Last night was 80%, but he's at almost 70% for the entirety of 12 games this season and that's even with mixing in a couple of duds. The kid is a monster, a LEGITIMATE MVP candidate, and he's getting better right before our very eyes. Let it Go I say. You can't change the past. you can change the future Forget the haters. and besides they ate crow. Edited December 8, 2020 by SlimShady'sSpaceForce 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 3 minutes ago, SlimShady'sSpaceForce said: Let it Go I say. You can't change the past. you can change the future Forget the haters. and besides they ate crow. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transplantbillsfan Posted December 8, 2020 Author Share Posted December 8, 2020 (edited) 6 hours ago, SlimShady'sSpaceForce said: 80 % last night 69.9 % 139.1% Rating last night Not 105. Do you see now why this season thread is kind of misleading? 80% not whatever 69 % you have in the title. Start a new thread ans celebrate what is and forget the past. We get it. You hated the pick. Now you love him We get it, you're starving for attention and don't always get it. The thread is only misleading if you're an idiot. The very first words in the title indicate that this thread is about Allen's 2020 season as a whole. That other poster posts weekly threads detailing the stats of each game. Stop your whining and either avoid posting in this thread or participate in dialogue. Edited December 8, 2020 by transplantbillsfan 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 Your stats make Josh look less than what he is. that is the point. Oh and did you mean Like the attention you seek here? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transplantbillsfan Posted December 8, 2020 Author Share Posted December 8, 2020 (edited) 10 minutes ago, SlimShady'sSpaceForce said: Your stats make Josh look less than what he is. that is the point. Oh and did you mean Like the attention you seek here? How do they make him look like less than what he is? The thread title is precisely what he is this season. Would you not want a QB like the one identified statistically in the thread title for the season? I think it defines him pretty well. Fantastic production and accuracy with the only knock being that he could potentially do a bit better taking care of the football. You go talk in other threads about your weekly highs and lows, I care about whether we have our next Jim Kelly... and right now I'd say we do, barring injury. Edited December 8, 2020 by transplantbillsfan 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 80 % last night 69.9 % 139.1% Rating last night Not 105. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transplantbillsfan Posted December 8, 2020 Author Share Posted December 8, 2020 My bad on the Jim Kelly record breaking thing... for the last few weeks they've been advertising the number and I thought it was a different number. Just looked it up and it was 34 in 1991. Let's hope Allen breaks that in SNF at home against the Steelers in another fantastic primetime game! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wiz Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 15 hours ago, BillsToast said: I would rate his performance a C- And for those who don't understand that's sarcasm. That's an A+ game C as in The Cantaloupe Farmer 3 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transplantbillsfan Posted December 9, 2020 Author Share Posted December 9, 2020 https://theathletic.com/2246422/2020/12/08/bills-49ers-observations-josh-allen/ Josh Allen’s best game should have the Bills thinking bigger: 7 observations 1) Allen was every bit of the X-factor the Bills needed This game featured a classic Bills script under coach Sean McDermott. The Bills opened as favorites over 5-6 San Francisco, but so much came in on the 49ers that the Bills were the betting underdogs by kickoff. This Bills team, unlike any other I’ve covered over the last decade, thrives on getting counted out by the masses, and Allen especially. For many around the country who hadn’t seen Allen since Thanksgiving of last year, he showed them how much he’s improved in his third season. Allen was electric from the start of the game to his fourth-quarter touchdown pass to rookie receiver Gabriel Davis. Allen was reading the defense, checking in and out of plays based on what they were showing him and finding coverage lapses all over the field. The accuracy, the arm strength and the anticipation on throws were all next-level. The Bills easily could have crumbled after getting stood up at the goal line on their first drive, making a goal-line stand of their own and surrendering a touchdown after a fumble set the 49ers up just a few yards out from the end zone. Allen didn’t let that happen. He engineered a 77-yard touchdown drive on five plays on the next drive to tie the game. From there, the Bills didn’t look back. Allen racked up 375 passing yards, four touchdowns and an 86 percent adjusted completion rate within the first 51 minutes of the game. The 49ers had the core players of their impressive linebacker and secondary units available for the matchup. It was the same defense that stymied the Rams last week. Given the opponent, audience and level of performance, this was easily the most impressive showing of Allen’s career. If Allen is capable of these types of performances against good teams, there isn’t a goal that is too high for the Bills this season. With how much Allen continues to improve and how he’s shown he can beat any defensive approach, the Bills might have a quarterback who can change the course of the franchise for years to come. 2) Forget establishing the run: Let Allen Throw After the bye, McDermott made it a priority to get the rushing attack in order. The Bills moved the ball effectively against the Chargers, but it seemed to come at the cost of their passing game. The pass-blocking unit never got into a rhythm. Allen looked as out-of-sync as he had the entire season and flirted with some reckless play. It’s become clear the Bills aren’t going to fulfill their potential this season if the rushing game is what’s leading the way. It shouldn’t be close to a 50-50 split, either. After losing one fumble at the goal line, and nearly another one, to begin the game, the Bills finally committed to their offensive identity against the 49ers. They need to let Allen, Stefon Diggs, Cole Beasley and the rest of the receiving cast lead the way until teams start defending them and opening up room for their running backs, like the Bills did against the Chiefs in Week 6. Allen and his receivers have shown they can beat any type of defensive approach thrown at them. Zone coverage? Allen forced both the zone-heavy Seahawks and 49ers to abandon that. Man coverage? The Dolphins in Week 2 learned that didn’t work. Zero-blitzes, delayed blitzes and bracketed receivers? Allen has plotted his way through all of them, and if he didn’t do so one week, he corrected it for the next. It’s why the Bills need to lean on Allen’s passing abilities the rest of the season, as they did Monday. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
folz Posted December 10, 2020 Share Posted December 10, 2020 (edited) I just thought that I would throw in the current ranking of Josh's completion % as well. Through Week 13... Josh is ranked 5th in completion percentage for passers with more than 10 passing attempts on the year (which eliminates WRs and backup QBs who have thrown only a couple of balls all season) Josh is ranked 4th in completion percentage for passers with more than 82 attempts (eliminating Taysom Hill who has 347 attempts less than Josh and 355 attempts less than Russell, so Hill isn't really a fair comparison). So this would be the Top Five (under the attempts limitations): 1. Drew Brees 0.735 (on 130 attempts less than Josh) 2. Teddy Bridgewater 0.702 (on 62 attempts less than Josh) 3. Russell Wilson 0.700 (on 8 attempts more than Josh) 4. Josh Allen 0.699 5. Aaron Rodgers 0.689 (on 13 attempts less than Josh) Of the 15 QBs with more than 3,000 yards on the year, Josh is 2nd in completion percentage---only one thousandth of a point behind Wilson and a tenth of a point ahead of Rodgers. Actually, Josh's and Russell's stat line for the year to this point is amazingly similar: Player Att Cmp Cmp% Yards Yds/Att Rush Yds Total TDs INT Fmb QB rate Russell Wilson 436 305 0.700 3,479 8 424 33 11 7 107.6 Josh Allen 428 299 0.699 3,403 8 322 32 8 7 105.9 Edited December 10, 2020 by folz 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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transplantbillsfan Posted December 14, 2020 Author Share Posted December 14, 2020 I love that we've now had 2 extremely solid Primetime games from Allen. And now I can say that Allen broke JK's single season TD record for the team!!! The stats tonight weren't spectacular, but that's a spectacular D he just beat. And he was better than the 1st ballot HOFer opposite him. And honestly, as spectacular as Allen has been this year, Diggs is 1B as far as MVP for this team goes. What a move by Beane! And finally... from da man himself: 1 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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transplantbillsfan Posted December 15, 2020 Author Share Posted December 15, 2020 I posted this tweet again because Joe B Makes commentary on it in his post-game reflection: https://theathletic.com/2259667/2020/12/14/bills-steelers-josh-allen/ 2) The unheralded, yet critical play to secure the win The Bills’ passing offense woke up in the third quarter and helped extend the lead to 16 points. The Steelers then answered with a touchdown drive to pull within eight points in the fourth quarter, making the Bills’ ensuing drive a vital one to close out the game. After one first down, the offense started to unravel. The offensive line allowed two straight pressures that forced Allen to get the ball out of his hands too quickly. Each of his throws, on first and second down, went past his intended target. Two incompletions later, it was 3rd-and-10 from the Bills’ own 47-yard line. There were still over 10 minutes left in the game, so a failed third-down attempt would have given the Steelers the ball back with a chance to tie the game. Bills offensive coordinator Brian Daboll got Isaiah McKenzie onto the field and split him out to the far right of the formation. On the same side of the field, but on the inside of McKenzie, were Diggs and tight end Dawson Knox. With the Steelers in man-to-man coverage, Daboll had both Diggs and Knox run short routes to the boundary to create traffic for McKenzie to run a short crossing route and, ideally, enough separation to get a first down. The route was there immediately and Allen got ready to throw the ball, but left guard Ike Boettger lost control of his pass-blocking assignment and Allen had to tuck the ball and side-step the pressure. After neutralizing the threat, Allen climbed the pocket and still found McKenzie, who then gained 12 yards for the first down. If Allen doesn’t have the presence of mind to reset and climb the pocket and then make an accurate throw, the Steelers likely would have gotten the ball back within five plays with plenty of time left on the clock. Instead, Allen and McKenzie made a play, and the Bills got down the field and kicked a field goal to pad their lead even more. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transplantbillsfan Posted December 20, 2020 Author Share Posted December 20, 2020 How about this year for Allen? Just unbelievable! This was just one of those games for Allen. And if not for penalties, Allen would have had even more passing TDs! Closing in on Kelly's passing TD record for Buffalo after breaking his total TD record last week. Closing in on 40 total TDs. 300 yard passing games are now routine. Another game 70% completion percentage after throwing 40+ times. It's stupid, but I wanted us to keep throwing it in the 4th quarter, but oh well. With Allen at the helm, we'll be competing for Super Bowls for the next couple decades if he can stay healthy. And I sure do hope Diggs is healthy 🙏 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChans Posted December 20, 2020 Share Posted December 20, 2020 Just now, transplantbillsfan said: How about this year for Allen? Just unbelievable! This was just one of those games for Allen. And if not for penalties, Allen would have had even more passing TDs! Closing in on Kelly's passing TD record for Buffalo after breaking his total TD record last week. Closing in on 40 total TDs. 300 yard passing games are now routine. Another game 70% completion percentage after throwing 40+ times. It's stupid, but I wanted us to keep throwing it in the 4th quarter, but oh well. With Allen at the helm, we'll be competing for Super Bowls for the next couple decades if he can stay healthy. And I sure do hope Diggs is healthy 🙏 Can't believe we went from a great QB in Tyrod to another great QB in Allen! 1 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted December 20, 2020 Share Posted December 20, 2020 Still just 11 real turnovers. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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transplantbillsfan Posted December 20, 2020 Author Share Posted December 20, 2020 45 minutes ago, Doc said: Still just 11 real turnovers. How so? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted December 20, 2020 Share Posted December 20, 2020 Just now, transplantbillsfan said: How so? Did you forget to subtract the Rams one or something? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted December 20, 2020 Share Posted December 20, 2020 1 minute ago, transplantbillsfan said: How so? The Kroft non-interception and the fumble by Morse and Moss that were credited to Josh. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmotionallyUnstable Posted December 20, 2020 Share Posted December 20, 2020 Has there been a “predict the contract” thread yet? I feel like that will be fun, or terrifying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiotAct Posted December 20, 2020 Share Posted December 20, 2020 Just now, EmotionallyUnstable said: Has there been a “predict the contract” thread yet? I feel like that will be fun, or terrifying. 10 years $480 million 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmotionallyUnstable Posted December 20, 2020 Share Posted December 20, 2020 Just now, RiotAct said: 10 years $480 million someone make a thread, I’m too “sugar deep” to figure it out right now. I envision a poll, including questions regarding term, salary per year, and guaranteed money. I can do it in the morning after I clean up all these cans 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dma0034 Posted December 20, 2020 Share Posted December 20, 2020 Yeah yeah yeah.... sure he won and destroyed the Broncos, but last year he threw a pass backwards in the playoffs and was drafted behind Baker Mayfield! -Nick Wright on Monday 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transplantbillsfan Posted December 20, 2020 Author Share Posted December 20, 2020 10 minutes ago, Warcodered said: Did you forget to subtract the Rams one or something? Actually I undercounted. According to NFL.com he has 6 fumbles lost, so 15 turnovers. I think I didn't count the one that was a botched handoff that was attributed to him as a fumble. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Franchiseneedsme Posted December 20, 2020 Share Posted December 20, 2020 14 minutes ago, EmotionallyUnstable said: Has there been a “predict the contract” thread yet? I feel like that will be fun, or terrifying. 11 years $330M $160M G $50SB... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted December 20, 2020 Share Posted December 20, 2020 5 minutes ago, transplantbillsfan said: Actually I undercounted. According to NFL.com he has 6 fumbles lost, so 15 turnovers. I think I didn't count the one that was a botched handoff that was attributed to him as a fumble. I counted 9 interceptions, including that bogus Kroft one, and 8 fumbles with 6 lost, but that includes the Morse fumbled snap against the Chargers and Moss fumbling near the end zone against the 49ers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiotAct Posted December 20, 2020 Share Posted December 20, 2020 14 minutes ago, Franchiseneedsme said: 11 years $330M $160M G $50SB... I would personally go to Beane’s house and be his servant for life if he pulled that off (assuming Josh continues on his current trajectory) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transplantbillsfan Posted December 20, 2020 Author Share Posted December 20, 2020 55 minutes ago, Doc said: I counted 9 interceptions, including that bogus Kroft one, and 8 fumbles with 6 lost, but that includes the Morse fumbled snap against the Chargers and Moss fumbling near the end zone against the 49ers. Yes, so 15 total turnovers even though I think it should be 14 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted December 20, 2020 Share Posted December 20, 2020 4 minutes ago, transplantbillsfan said: Yes, so 15 total turnovers even though I think it should be 14 It’s 15 official turnovers but really 12 are on Josh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
letsgoteam Posted December 20, 2020 Share Posted December 20, 2020 (edited) With contract extension talk: "What if I told you a QB left money on the table so his teammates could eat." Im not saying he should/could/would. But could you imagine how the legend of JA would grow from that! Edited December 20, 2020 by letsgoteam grammer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Bills Fan Posted December 20, 2020 Share Posted December 20, 2020 3 minutes ago, Doc said: It’s 15 official turnovers but really 12 are on Josh. Don't forget the ref int in the Rams game I think. I still think Bill's player was down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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