BullBuchanan Posted September 1, 2020 Share Posted September 1, 2020 2 minutes ago, All_Pro_Bills said: I find it hard to believe anyone would be against ending racism. You do? At least 30% of the country is actively trying to keep it alive and well, maybe more. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted September 1, 2020 Share Posted September 1, 2020 22 minutes ago, Buffalo619 said: Exactly. I don’t care about a players race, personality, or opinions. Do your job, entertain the the fans and go home. Celebrities and Athletes have one objective, to entertain. Nothing more. As fans, we sometimes confuse them for role models when really all they are are sell outs. Lebron for example. Athletes have the right to THEIR opinions as well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Madness Posted September 1, 2020 Share Posted September 1, 2020 1 minute ago, John from Riverside said: Athletes have the right to THEIR opinions as well Apparently not. I don't think they were invited to the 'critical thinker' meeting either. Sounds super exclusive. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoPoy88 Posted September 1, 2020 Share Posted September 1, 2020 16 minutes ago, Buffalo619 said: It’s not just me, but millions of intelligent, critical thinkers who see this for what it really is. It’s a warning and it could save the sport. Change now before it’s too late. This is a slippery slope, politics and sports don’t mix. A slippery slope to what, exactly? What’s the endgame in your “intelligent” mind that you conveniently dance around? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logic Posted September 1, 2020 Share Posted September 1, 2020 6 minutes ago, Buffalo619 said: Racism is a controversial word and many don’t believe it exists, especially here in the USA. Including myself. JUST FOOTBALL. You just proved my point further. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted September 1, 2020 Share Posted September 1, 2020 1 minute ago, BullBuchanan said: You do? At least 30% of the country is actively trying to keep it alive and well, maybe more. Right now I am calculating it at bout 40 percent which is sad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-9 Posted September 1, 2020 Share Posted September 1, 2020 Did the just read that racism doesn’t exist in the USA? Is it any wonder we are in the state we are in? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sig1Hunter Posted September 1, 2020 Share Posted September 1, 2020 This thread has gone to the crapper quicker than I expected. Carry on dudes! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike in Horseheads Posted September 1, 2020 Share Posted September 1, 2020 16 minutes ago, blacklabel said: One time, a work colleague totally refused to believe me that there was a town called Horseheads in NY. Hope you bet him! tell em to look up 14845 zip 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted September 1, 2020 Share Posted September 1, 2020 2 minutes ago, Buffalo619 said: In their personal time, I agree. Don’t bring it on the field, especially during our national anthem. Who are you to dictate how they exercise their opinion? 2 minutes ago, K-9 said: Did the just read that racism doesn’t exist in the USA? Is it any wonder we are in the state we are in? It is that critical thinking thing Just keep bleach out of their hands 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Madness Posted September 1, 2020 Share Posted September 1, 2020 2 minutes ago, Buffalo619 said: In their personal time, I agree. Don’t bring it on the field, especially during our national anthem. Or else what? That's really the question. They have brought it onto the field and certainly during the sing song. They are going to continue to do so. Now there will be end zone messages as well. So there. Its happening. What now? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nedboy7 Posted September 1, 2020 Share Posted September 1, 2020 22 minutes ago, Buffalo619 said: It’s not just me, but millions of intelligent, critical thinkers who see this for what it really is. It’s a warning and it could save the sport. Change now before it’s too late. This is a slippery slope, politics and sports don’t mix. You should man up and stop watching sports so you don't become a sellout like LeBron. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jauronimo Posted September 1, 2020 Share Posted September 1, 2020 11 minutes ago, Buffalo619 said: Racism is a controversial word and many don’t believe it exists, especially here in the USA. Including myself. JUST FOOTBALL. I can't think of one example of racism. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike in Horseheads Posted September 1, 2020 Share Posted September 1, 2020 6 minutes ago, JoPoy88 said: A slippery slope to what, exactly? What’s the endgame in your “intelligent” mind that you conveniently dance around? Maybe when it snows its a slippery slope SMH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nedboy7 Posted September 1, 2020 Share Posted September 1, 2020 Just now, Westside Madness said: Or else what? That's really the question. They have brought it onto the field and certainly during the sing song. They are going to continue to do so. Now there will be end zone messages as well. So there. Its happening. What now? Now he has a tantrum about how he is a critical thinker. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BullBuchanan Posted September 1, 2020 Share Posted September 1, 2020 5 minutes ago, Buffalo619 said: In their personal time, I agree. Don’t bring it on the field, especially during our national anthem. *clears throat* What? So, you aren't opposed to politics in sports, just the ones you disagree with. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted September 1, 2020 Share Posted September 1, 2020 Just now, Westside Madness said: Or else what? That's really the question. They have brought it onto the field and certainly during the sing song. They are going to continue to do so. Now there will be end zone messages as well. So there. Its happening. What now? I think what really bothers mooks like this is that athletes have a platform that THEY dont.....and so they dont want to see it Yet it is perfectly acceptable for the sitting president to use the White House lawn as his bully pulpit to lie, degrade people, and lie some more 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BullBuchanan Posted September 1, 2020 Share Posted September 1, 2020 14 minutes ago, Buffalo619 said: Racism is a controversial word and many don’t believe it exists, especially here in the USA. Including myself. JUST FOOTBALL. That is precisely the problem. You believe something doesn't exist, without evidence, in the face of overwhelming evidence to the contrary. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nedboy7 Posted September 1, 2020 Share Posted September 1, 2020 15 minutes ago, Buffalo619 said: Racism is a controversial word and many don’t believe it exists, especially here in the USA. Including myself. JUST FOOTBALL. Here educate yourself so you dont keep looking like a racist critical thinker. How much have you donated to any cause? https://born2invest.com/articles/lebron-james-generous-nba-star-today/ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted September 1, 2020 Share Posted September 1, 2020 1 minute ago, nedboy7 said: Here educate yourself so you dont keep looking like a racist critical thinker. How much have you donated to any cause? https://born2invest.com/articles/lebron-james-generous-nba-star-today/ I am just wondering how you can be a critical thinker without looking at both sides of the issue but then......he probably votes for someone who is a self proclaimed "very stable genious" 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nedboy7 Posted September 1, 2020 Share Posted September 1, 2020 (edited) 14 minutes ago, Buffalo619 said: In their personal time, I agree. Don’t bring it on the field, especially during our national anthem. Now compare LeBron to your hero. Donald Trump is a rich man—even if just how rich remains an open question—and he and his campaign have long insisted that he is also a very charitable fellow. “I’ve given millions away,” Trump said in May. The sentiment was reiterated this week by Jason Miller, his campaign spokesperson. “Mr. Trump is generous both with his money and with his time,” Miller said, in a statement reacting to the latest Washington Post reporting on Trump’s charitable foundation. “He has provided millions of dollars to fund his Foundation and a multitude of other charitable causes.” How many “millions of dollars”? People around Trump have answered that question in a number of ways. A couple of weeks ago, Mike Pence, Trump’s running mate, said that anyone “who knows about Donald Trump and his career knows that this is a man who’s given away tens of millions of dollars to charitable causes throughout his business life.” In July, Trump’s son Eric said his father had given away “millions and millions and millions of dollars.” Last year, on the same day that Trump officially launched his Presidential bid, his campaign provided a specific number: a “summary of net worth” document made public that day stated that Trump had given away $102 million between 2009 and 2014. Trump’s charitable giving has now become a campaign issue, largely due to a series of Post articles written by David Fahrenthold and his colleagues. Back in April, Fahrenthold and Rosalind S. Helderman reported that they couldn’t find a single cash donation to charity that Trump personally had made over the previous five years. The Trump campaign had provided the newspaper with a list of donations made by the candidate, but many turned out to be gifts-in-kind from Trump’s businesses, such as free rounds of golf at Trump courses donated to charity auctions, and land-conservation agreements to forgo development rights on Trump-owned properties. The only cash donations were from the Donald J. Trump Foundation, the family charity that Trump established in 1988. But the Post also pointed out that Trump hadn’t given any of his own money to the Trump Foundation since 2008—almost all of its funding came from other people, including some of his business associates. The Post has delivered other revelations. At the end of August, Fahrenthold reported that the Trump Foundation had violated tax laws in 2013 by making a $25,000 political donation to Pam Bondi, the attorney general of Florida. At the time the donation was made, Bondi had been considering whether to launch an investigation of the scandal-plagued Trump University. Democrats accused Trump of having tried to buy off Bondi, but Bondi denied that there was any connection between the campaign donation and her decision not to pursue an investigation. Regardless, charities aren’t allowed to make political donations. Trump’s aides said the payment from the foundation was the result of an administrative error, and that the money was supposed to have come from Trump’s personal account. Earlier this year, the foundation paid a $2,500 penalty to the I.R.S. Edited September 1, 2020 by nedboy7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Posted September 1, 2020 Share Posted September 1, 2020 (edited) Hey! We are all Bills fans here. Why can't we be respectful to each other? We all have our own opinions on life, no one is right all the time. I know how easy it is to sling barbs on the internet, I'm just as guilty as anyone. I'm trying to stop. If we all would speak to each other as if we are face to face, I think this divisive bitterness would end. At the end of the day, the elections will come and go, but the scars and hurt feelings will still linger. I don't know about you, but I've made a few friends on this site that I would hate to lose over politics. Please everyone, let's all think before we post. GO BILLS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1 Edited September 1, 2020 by westside2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted September 1, 2020 Share Posted September 1, 2020 1 minute ago, westside2 said: Hey! We are all Bills fans here. Why can't we be respectful to each other? We all have our own opinions on life, no one is right all the time. I know easy it is to sling barbs on the internet, I'm just as guilty as anyone. I'm trying to stop. If we all would speak to each other as if we are face to face, I think this divisive bitterness would end. At the end of the day, the elections will come and go, but the scars and hurt feelings will still linger. I don't know about you, but I've made a few friends on this site that I would hate to lose over politics. Please everyone, let's all think before we post. GO BILLS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1 I honestly would hate to lose friends I have made on this site over politics.....and admittedly I am a reactive poster (see something stupid......post that it is stupid) but This particular issue runs deep......The NBA season was nearly CANCELED earlier this week.......teams like the lakers and clippers literally didnt want to play and Obama steps in and helps out........ Bottom line........people need to start listening and stop denying........or their WILL be a hard time keeping these sports going because the stars wont play.....which in term would greatly affect this site. Still......I understand your point......voice of reason is still a good thing to hear 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MiltonWaddams Posted September 1, 2020 Share Posted September 1, 2020 2 minutes ago, westside2 said: Hey! We are all Bills fans here. Why can't we be respectful to each other? We all have our own opinions on life, no one is right all the time. I know easy it is to sling barbs on the internet, I'm just as guilty as anyone. I'm trying to stop. If we all would speak to each other as if we are face to face, I think this divisive bitterness would end. At the end of the day, the elections will come and go, but the scars and hurt feelings will still linger. I don't know about you, but I've made a few friends on this site that I would hate to lose over politics. Please everyone, let's all think before we post. GO BILLS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1 I wish I could speak to some of the people on this thread face to face. We may all be Bills fans, but we stand a people divided in regards to political leanings and our understanding of the history and present of racial segregation, persecution and division. I think a lot of us wish that we could be more cordial when it comes to this topic, but few topics in the history of this site have divided us to this degree. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsSB2020KO Posted September 1, 2020 Share Posted September 1, 2020 (edited) 4 hours ago, H2o said: https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2020/09/01/nfl-will-write-end-racism-and-it-takes-all-of-us-in-end-zones/ Lol wow if you all can’t see the blatant agenda at hand I’m sorry. Unreal. Total misdirection to keep us divided and distracted while other things are accomplished. Digital currency only for one. Again, there is no definitive proof whatsoever that any non Caucasian group is disproportionately targeted by police or systematically whatever. Read as many studies as possible and compare. You are being lied to over and over and over. I knew it was only a matter of time before this blatant kgb-esque subversion agenda totally destroyed sports. Watch Tomas Schuman’s 1983 lecture on exactly how a society is subverted and destroyed from within. You will be astonished at how spot on it is to right now. This is is a tragic period for many reasons, but since we are all obviously Bills fans, sad for the Bills and sports in general. Edited September 1, 2020 by BillsSB2020KO 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BullBuchanan Posted September 1, 2020 Share Posted September 1, 2020 (edited) 8 minutes ago, westside2 said: Hey! We are all Bills fans here. Why can't we be respectful to each other? We all have our own opinions on life, no one is right all the time. I know how easy it is to sling barbs on the internet, I'm just as guilty as anyone. I'm trying to stop. If we all would speak to each other as if we are face to face, I think this divisive bitterness would end. At the end of the day, the elections will come and go, but the scars and hurt feelings will still linger. I don't know about you, but I've made a few friends on this site that I would hate to lose over politics. Please everyone, let's all think before we post. GO BILLS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1 There's a pretty wide chasm between "politics" and people that look a specific way are being murdered by the government. Edited September 1, 2020 by BullBuchanan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Posted September 1, 2020 Share Posted September 1, 2020 Just now, John from Riverside said: I honestly would hate to lose friends I have made on this site over politics.....and admittedly I am a reactive poster (see something stupid......post that it is stupid) but This particular issue runs deep......The NBA season was nearly CANCELED earlier this week.......teams like the lakers and clippers literally didnt want to play and Obama steps in and helps out........ Bottom line........people need to start listening and stop denying........or their WILL be a hard time keeping these sports going because the stars wont play.....which in term would greatly affect this site. Still......I understand your point......voice of reason is still a good thing to hear Thanks John, I would hate to see sports cancelled.It's such a big part of our lives. But politics is tearing this country apart. I hate seeing this happen. I respect ypurs and everyone else's opinion John. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sig1Hunter Posted September 1, 2020 Share Posted September 1, 2020 (edited) 5 minutes ago, John from Riverside said: I honestly would hate to lose friends I have made on this site over politics.....and admittedly I am a reactive poster (see something stupid......post that it is stupid) but This particular issue runs deep......The NBA season was nearly CANCELED earlier this week.......teams like the lakers and clippers literally didnt want to play and Obama steps in and helps out........ Bottom line........people need to start listening and stop denying........or their WILL be a hard time keeping these sports going because the stars wont play.....which in term would greatly affect this site. Still......I understand your point......voice of reason is still a good thing to hear Good! Hopefully they go away. Seriously. I wont beg multimillion dollar athletes to keep playing a game that makes them rich beyond their wildest dreams, and provides incredible possibilities for future generations of their families. Im sure their job means more to them, than it does to me (at least it should). Pissing away their careers over for an armed felon fighting the cops is the dumbest thing on the face of the Earth. ?? ?? Edited September 1, 2020 by Sig1Hunter 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BullBuchanan Posted September 1, 2020 Share Posted September 1, 2020 Just now, Sig1Hunter said: Good! Hopefully they go away. Seriously. I wont beg multimillion dollar athletes to keep playing a game that makes them rich beyond their wildest dreams, and provides incredible possibilities for future generations of theur families. Im sure their job means more to them, than it does to me (at least it should). Pissing away their careers over for an armed felon fighting the cops is the dumbest thing on the face of the Earth. ?? ?? Gee, I wonder why? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhoTom Posted September 1, 2020 Share Posted September 1, 2020 If nothing else, this thread is providing a very efficient way to populate my "ignore" list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted September 1, 2020 Share Posted September 1, 2020 1 minute ago, Sig1Hunter said: Good! Hopefully they go away. Seriously. I wont beg multimillion dollar athletes to keep playing a game that makes them rich beyond their wildest dreams, and provides incredible possibilities for future generations of their families. Im sure their job means more to them, than it does to me (at least it should). Pissing away their careers over for an armed felon fighting the cops is the dumbest thing on the face of the Earth. ?? ?? "an armed felon" Make sure you take a knife to gunfight the next time you have an issue......you will be armed and of course someone might only shoot you once instead of unloading a clip into you to be sure 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BullBuchanan Posted September 1, 2020 Share Posted September 1, 2020 4 minutes ago, BillsSB2020KO said: Lol wow if you all can’t see the blatant agenda at hand I’m sorry. Unreal. Total misdirection to keep us divided and distracted while other things are accomplished. Digital currency only for one. Again, there is no definitive proof whatsoever that any non Caucasian group is disproportionately targeted by police or systematically whatever. Read as many studies as possible and compare. You are being lied to over and over and over. I knew it was only a matter of time before this blatant kgb-esque subversion agenda totally destroyed sports. Watch Tomas Schuman’s 1983 lecture on exactly how a society is subverted and destroyed from within. You will be astonished at how spot on it is to right now. This is is a tragic period for many reasons, but since we are all obviously Bills fans, sad for the Bills and sports in general. The only people that are divided on this are racists. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MiltonWaddams Posted September 1, 2020 Share Posted September 1, 2020 2 minutes ago, Sig1Hunter said: Good! Hopefully they go away. Seriously. I wont beg multimillion dollar athletes to keep playing a game that makes them rich beyond their wildest dreams, and provides incredible possibilities for future generations of their families. Im sure their job means more to them, than it does to me (at least it should). Pissing away their careers over for an armed felon fighting the cops is the dumbest thing on the face of the Earth. ?? ?? How about all the unarmed non-felons? I think they might deserve somebody standing up for them. But, I know where you lean as I visited your cesspool of PPP, so I’ll never get through to you. Thick as a brick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsSB2020KO Posted September 1, 2020 Share Posted September 1, 2020 (edited) 7 minutes ago, BullBuchanan said: There's a pretty wide chasm between "politics" and people that look a specific way are being murdered by the government. Haha wow what a ridiculous comment. Truly Learn the difference between anecdotal evidence and actual compelling empirical evidence. Edited September 1, 2020 by BillsSB2020KO 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted September 1, 2020 Share Posted September 1, 2020 1 minute ago, MiltonWaddams said: How about all the unarmed non-felons? I think they might deserve somebody standing up for them. But, I know where you lean as I visited your cesspool of PPP, so I’ll never get through to you. Thick as a brick. Now wait wait......one of those protesters who got killed this week was "armed" with a skateboard.......and of course he had it acomin because he should have ignored that the shooter had just KILLED someone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sig1Hunter Posted September 1, 2020 Share Posted September 1, 2020 3 minutes ago, John from Riverside said: "an armed felon" Make sure you take a knife to gunfight the next time you have an issue......you will be armed and of course someone might only shoot you once instead of unloading a clip into you to be sure Why would I do that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted September 1, 2020 Share Posted September 1, 2020 Just now, Sig1Hunter said: Why would I do that? Well you might be the right color.....maybe you will get away with your knife 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sig1Hunter Posted September 2, 2020 Share Posted September 2, 2020 1 minute ago, John from Riverside said: Well you might be the right color.....maybe you will get away with your knife Pretty sure if i fight the cops, and have a knife, and continue refusing their commands, and then re-engage them in physical conflict while in possession of said knife, i have given them plenty of justification to shoot me as many times as it takes to end the threat. So, since i have this common sense, i ask again, why would i do this? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsSB2020KO Posted September 2, 2020 Share Posted September 2, 2020 (edited) 12 minutes ago, westside2 said: Thanks John, I would hate to see sports cancelled.It's such a big part of our lives. But politics is tearing this country apart. I hate seeing this happen. I respect ypurs and everyone else's opinion John. Good. Sports should be cancelled then. Because the average person is incapable of defending themselves against high level psychological operations such as the blatant race baiting propaganda that is propelled by media operatives and influencers. And these people are puppets used to influence you. Follow a backless narrative if you want, but just realize you’re being mind f***ed by people who know your psychology inside and out and mean to destroy this country from within. It’s actually astonishing how such basic divide and conquer tactics work on the majority of the population. If no no one in sports has the courage to challenge a narrative that is utterly untrue then screw sports. Edited September 2, 2020 by BillsSB2020KO 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted September 2, 2020 Share Posted September 2, 2020 3 minutes ago, BillsSB2020KO said: Haha wow what a ridiculous comment. Truly Learn the difference between anecdotal evidence and actual compelling empirical evidence. Scenario one A man of color walks away from cops....reaches into his car (where later a knife was found) and is shot several times in the back Scenario two A automatic weapon wielding young man kills 2 people and injuries another.....and police approach....ignore the one WITH THE WEAPON with people screaming that he had just killed someone.......he is allowed to leave the scene....drive home.....and sleep in his own bed before finally being apprehended. Video surfaces that the police in the area actually gave this young man bottles of water and THANKING him for being their WITH HIS WEAPON. And you cant see the "evidence"? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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