Dragoon Posted September 21, 2020 Share Posted September 21, 2020 Are democrats dumb enough to still put stock in polls? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hedge Posted September 21, 2020 Share Posted September 21, 2020 2 hours ago, Dragoon said: Are democrats dumb enough to still put stock in polls? Yes. And I stopped reading after 5 words. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted September 21, 2020 Author Share Posted September 21, 2020 North Carolina: Trump vs. Biden Emerson Biden 50, Trump 49 Biden +1 Public sentiment is everything. With public sentiment, nothing can fail. Without it, nothing can succeed. Abraham Lincoln 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted September 21, 2020 Author Share Posted September 21, 2020 16 hours ago, Dragoon said: Are democrats dumb enough to still put stock in polls? And don’t forget the scientists, doctors and experts are all wrong to about everything. Only the Know Nothing party of Trump is to be listened to Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unforgiven Posted September 21, 2020 Share Posted September 21, 2020 You've chosen to ignore content by Tiberius. You've chosen to ignore content by Tiberius. You've chosen to ignore content by Tiberius. You've chosen to ignore content by Tiberius. You've chosen to ignore content by Tiberius. You've chosen to ignore content by Tiberius. You've chosen to ignore content by Tiberius. You've chosen to ignore content by Tiberius. You've chosen to ignore content by Tiberius. You've chosen to ignore content by Tiberius. You've chosen to ignore content by Tiberius. You've chosen to ignore content by Tiberius. You've chosen to ignore content by Tiberius. You've chosen to ignore content by Tiberius. You've chosen to ignore content by Tiberius. You've chosen to ignore content by Tiberius. You've chosen to ignore content by Tiberius. You've chosen to ignore content by Tiberius. You've chosen to ignore content by Tiberius. You've chosen to ignore content by Tiberius. You've chosen to ignore content by Tiberius. You've chosen to ignore content by Tiberius. You've chosen to ignore content by Tiberius. You've chosen to ignore content by Tiberius. You've chosen to ignore content by Tiberius. You've chosen to ignore content by Tiberius. You've chosen to ignore content by Tiberius. You've chosen to ignore content by Tiberius. You've chosen to ignore content by Tiberius. You've chosen to ignore content by Tiberius. You've chosen to ignore content by Tiberius. You've chosen to ignore content by Tiberius. You've chosen to ignore content by Tiberius. You've chosen to ignore content by Tiberius. You've chosen to ignore content by Tiberius. You've chosen to ignore content by Tiberius. You've chosen to ignore content by Tiberius. You've chosen to ignore content by Tiberius. You've chosen to ignore content by Tiberius. You've chosen to ignore content by Tiberius. You've chosen to ignore content by Tiberius. You've chosen to ignore content by Tiberius. You've chosen to ignore content by Tiberius. You've chosen to ignore content by Tiberius. You've chosen to ignore content by Tiberius. You've chosen to ignore content by Tiberius. You've chosen to ignore content by Tiberius. You've chosen to ignore content by Tiberius. You've chosen to ignore content by Tiberius. You've chosen to ignore content by Tiberius. You've chosen to ignore content by Tiberius. You've chosen to ignore content by Tiberius. You've chosen to ignore content by Tiberius. You've chosen to ignore content by Tiberius. You've chosen to ignore content by Tiberius. You've chosen to ignore content by Tiberius. You've chosen to ignore content by Tiberius. You've chosen to ignore content by Tiberius. You've chosen to ignore content by Tiberius. You've chosen to ignore content by Tiberius. Answer: how many times he has responded to his own post Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragoon Posted September 21, 2020 Share Posted September 21, 2020 1 hour ago, Tiberius said: And don’t forget the scientists, doctors and experts are all wrong to about everything. Only the Know Nothing party of Trump is to be listened to Hmm...take it you're not a fan of Mr. Trump? Gotcha. But I was just talking polls. Not science stuff. That's a wormhole I don't wanna go down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted September 21, 2020 Author Share Posted September 21, 2020 2 minutes ago, Dragoon said: Hmm...take it you're not a fan of Mr. Trump? Gotcha. But I was just talking polls. Not science stuff. That's a wormhole I don't wanna go down. Polls have Trump way behind. And excuse me for noticing patterns, but Trump supporters are usually the ones challenging any and everything that goes against their reality. Science, polls, medicine, video evidence that is utterly irrefutable. You believe Trump sexually assaulted women? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted September 21, 2020 Share Posted September 21, 2020 Wargaming the Electoral College: 5 Scenarios, 3 Startling Finishes. Four years ago this month, my first and wildest Wargaming the Electoral College scenario in which Donald Trump won, was what I called the “northern route” to a Trump victory through the Rust Belt states. As it turned out, that’s exactly how Trump did win. It was a close-run thing, and if the state polls are anything to go by then it’s going to be even tougher for Trump to pull off a second time. But I don’t buy it. It isn’t that the polls are necessarily wrong, it’s just that the electorate is going to be much more fluid in a crazy year like 2020. More than figuring out who people are going to vote for, pollsters have to figure out who is actually going to show up and vote. I’m not sure anyone has any clue how to determine who the Likely Voters are in a year like 2020. If I were a pollster, I’d be bald from all the hair-pulling. That said, we have to start somewhere, so let’s begin as we do every four years with the RealClearPolitics poll averages. Much more at the link. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Frankish Reich Posted September 22, 2020 Share Posted September 22, 2020 9 hours ago, Unforgiven said: You've chosen to ignore content by Tiberius. You've chosen to ignore content by Tiberius. You've chosen to ignore content by Tiberius. You've chosen to ignore content by Tiberius. You've chosen to ignore content by Tiberius. Answer: how many times he has responded to his own post Q. Are you ignoring someone when you respond to them? Perhaps I've misunderstood the meaning of "ignore" 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted September 22, 2020 Share Posted September 22, 2020 14 hours ago, Tiberius said: North Carolina: Trump vs. Biden Emerson Biden 50, Trump 49 Biden +1 Public sentiment is everything. With public sentiment, nothing can fail. Without it, nothing can succeed. Abraham Lincoln via LinkedIn Huh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted September 22, 2020 Author Share Posted September 22, 2020 Iowa: Trump vs. Biden Des Moines Register Trump 47, Biden 47 Tie Michigan: Trump vs. Biden MRG Biden 46, Trump 41 Biden +5 Georgia: Trump vs. Biden Univ. of Georgia* Trump 47, Biden 47 Tie Vermont: Trump vs. Biden Vermont Public Radio Biden 56, Trump 32 Biden +24 Michigan Senate - James vs. Peters MRG Peters 42, James 40 Peters +2 Georgia Senate - Perdue vs. Ossoff Univ. of Georgia* Perdue 47, Ossoff 45 Perdue +2 Georgia Senate Special Election - Open Primary Univ. of Georgia Loeffler 24, Collins 21, Warnock 20, Lieberman 11, Tarver 5, Slowinski 3 Loeffler +3 12 hours ago, The Frankish Reich said: Q. Are you ignoring someone when you respond to them? Perhaps I've misunderstood the meaning of "ignore" Not sure what the point of that posters post is. Or why he posts at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted September 22, 2020 Share Posted September 22, 2020 Trump Will Win Pennsylvania and Here is Why 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted September 22, 2020 Author Share Posted September 22, 2020 1 hour ago, B-Man said: Trump Will Win Pennsylvania and Here is Why You sound like DR in 2016 proclaiming boldly that Hillary has in down, no doubt she will win 😆 Trump trial8ng in PA as abides nears the 50% mark https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/polls/president-general/pennsylvania/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted September 22, 2020 Share Posted September 22, 2020 4 minutes ago, Tiberius said: You obviously answered without reading the article you were replying to. No surprise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted September 22, 2020 Author Share Posted September 22, 2020 17 minutes ago, B-Man said: You obviously answered without reading the article you were replying to. No surprise. Ok, I'll read Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted September 22, 2020 Author Share Posted September 22, 2020 23 minutes ago, B-Man said: You obviously answered without reading the article you were replying to. No surprise. Ok, so I read this thing and he's claiming all these new GOP voters, even though there are many more Dems in Pa, whatever But the funny thing about the article, is he discusses a Republican poll with Biden leading and says that poll is wrong, lol. Its a feel good piece to give you lemmings hope Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted September 22, 2020 Share Posted September 22, 2020 Sorry B-Gal 1 minute ago, Tiberius said: Ok, so I read this thing and he's claiming all these new GOP voters, even though there are many more Dems in Pa, whatever I realize logic is difficult for you. Trump won Pennsylvania in 2016 ..............with PA having "more" democrats. and now............There are even more republicans registered. Thus..............Trump Will Win Pennsylvania and Here is Why 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted September 22, 2020 Author Share Posted September 22, 2020 2 minutes ago, B-Man said: Sorry B-Gal I realize logic is difficult for you. Trump won Pennsylvania in 2016 ..............with PA having "more" democrats. and now............There are even more republicans registered. Thus..............Trump Will Win Pennsylvania and Here is Why Math too hard for you? As previously stated, 2016 figures showed Dems with 4,172,826 voters. Figures available September 7th, show the state’s Democrats have just 4,125,889 voters, a loss of nearly 47,000 voters. Republicans, on the other hand, ended 2016 with 3,280,202 voters but showed 3,376,463 voters on September 7th. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted September 22, 2020 Share Posted September 22, 2020 1 minute ago, Tiberius said: Math too hard for you? As previously stated, 2016 figures showed Dems with 4,172,826 voters. Figures available September 7th, show the state’s Democrats have just 4,125,889 voters, a loss of nearly 47,000 voters. Republicans, on the other hand, ended 2016 with 3,280,202 voters but showed 3,376,463 voters on September 7th. With this logic Trump must have lost PA in 2016 by a large margin. Even after all these years of your posting, it never fails to amaze me just how ***** stupid you are. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted September 22, 2020 Author Share Posted September 22, 2020 2 minutes ago, 3rdnlng said: With this logic Trump must have lost PA in 2016 by a large margin. Even after all these years of your posting, it never fails to amaze me just how ***** stupid you are. Throw an insult because you know I’m right. And that stupid article was from one of your propagandists. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted September 22, 2020 Share Posted September 22, 2020 6 minutes ago, Tiberius said: Throw an insult because you know I’m right. And that stupid article was from one of your propagandists. Careful, you're making me laugh so hard I might be topping your Benghazi laughter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted September 22, 2020 Author Share Posted September 22, 2020 2 hours ago, 3rdnlng said: Careful, you're making me laugh so hard I might be topping your Benghazi laughter. Laughing at BMans math skills? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted September 22, 2020 Share Posted September 22, 2020 (edited) 3 hours ago, B-Man said: I realize logic is difficult for you. Trump won Pennsylvania in 2016 ..............with PA having "more" democrats. and now............There are even more republicans registered. (let me help you. Saying there are more republicans now, means there are more than 2016, NOT more than democrats) Thus..............Trump Will Win Pennsylvania and Here is Why READING skills too hard for Gator Edited September 22, 2020 by B-Man Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted September 23, 2020 Author Share Posted September 23, 2020 Trump takes the lead in Florida. Is he getting a bounce? https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2020/president/fl/florida_trump_vs_biden-6841.html 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted September 23, 2020 Author Share Posted September 23, 2020 Florida: Trump vs. Biden ABC News/Wash Post Biden 47, Trump 51 Trump +4 Florida: Trump vs. Biden CNBC/Change Research (D) Biden 49, Trump 46 Biden +3 Florida: Trump vs. Biden St. Pete Polls Biden 50, Trump 47 Biden +3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Blitz Posted September 24, 2020 Share Posted September 24, 2020 (edited) If Trump wins Arizona it's over. I think he will win NC. In think he wins all Red States from 2016. Arizona I've been worried about. Mildly worried about NC. And I think he gets PA. And 4 more years. Edited September 24, 2020 by Big Blitz 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted September 24, 2020 Author Share Posted September 24, 2020 11 hours ago, Big Blitz said: If Trump wins Arizona it's over. I think he will win NC. In think he wins all Red States from 2016. Arizona I've been worried about. Mildly worried about NC. And I think he gets PA. And 4 more years. Trump can win Fl and Ar and still lose election badly. The Blue Wall states look real good for Biden. Biden doesn't need NC, but it would be nice. With leads in Pa, Mich, and Wis, if that holds, that's all he needs. If Biden also takes NC, Fl, Ga, and Ar, its a Blue Wave tsunami Still time for Trump to come back, though Wisconsin: Trump vs. Biden Univ. of Wis/YouGov Biden 50, Trump 46 Biden +4 Texas: Trump vs. Biden NY Times/Siena* Trump 46, Biden 43 Trump +3 Georgia: Trump vs. Biden NY Times/Siena* Trump 45, Biden 45 Tie Pennsylvania: Trump vs. Biden Univ. of Wis/YouGov Biden 49, Trump 45 Biden +4 Michigan: Trump vs. Biden Univ. of Wis/YouGov Biden 51, Trump 45 Biden +6 Virginia: Trump vs. Biden Christopher Newport Univ. Biden 48, Trump 43 Biden +5 Iowa: Trump vs. Biden NY Times/Siena* Trump 42, Biden 45 Biden +3 Iowa Senate - Ernst vs. Greenfield NY Times/Siena* Greenfield 42, Ernst 40 Greenfield +2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted September 24, 2020 Author Share Posted September 24, 2020 This is fun: https://www.270towin.com/ If Biden holds the wonderful Great Lakes States--aside from that "southern state" Indiana---but loses Pa, and wins Ar, while Fl, NC and Ga stay with Trump, it will come down to that Maine electoral College vote! One vote! Maine: Trump vs. Biden Boston Globe/Suffolk* Biden 51, Trump 39 Biden +12 Maine CD2: Trump vs. Biden Boston Globe/Suffolk* Biden 47, Trump 45 Biden +2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted September 25, 2020 Author Share Posted September 25, 2020 Ohio: Trump vs. Biden Quinnipiac Biden 48, Trump 47 Biden +1 Ohio: Trump vs. Biden FOX News Biden 50, Trump 45 Biden +5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reality Check Posted September 25, 2020 Share Posted September 25, 2020 7 minutes ago, Tiberius said: Ohio: Trump vs. Biden Quinnipiac Biden 48, Trump 47 Biden +1 Ohio: Trump vs. Biden FOX News Biden 50, Trump 45 Biden +5 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golden Goat Posted September 25, 2020 Share Posted September 25, 2020 Trump is right where he was before COVID. The more they throw at him, the less sticks. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary M Posted September 25, 2020 Share Posted September 25, 2020 Hillary Clinton has widened her lead over Donald Trump, polling 14 percentage points ahead nationally, according to a new Associated Press-GfK poll, which comes 12 days before the presidential election. https://time.com/4546942/hillary-clinton-donald-trump-lead-poll/ What's changed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
All_Pro_Bills Posted September 25, 2020 Share Posted September 25, 2020 4 minutes ago, Gary M said: Hillary Clinton has widened her lead over Donald Trump, polling 14 percentage points ahead nationally, according to a new Associated Press-GfK poll, which comes 12 days before the presidential election. https://time.com/4546942/hillary-clinton-donald-trump-lead-poll/ What's changed? The 2016 polls over-sampled registered Democrats and did not statistically represent the population they were trying to estimate from a sample. From what I've seen they are doing it again in 2020 with the added wrinkle of about 10% of registered voters in the polls refusing to provide the pollsters their choice. Most are would-be Trump voters fearing being outed by the poll takers or other's that don't believe their answers will be kept private or anonymous. So the margin of error is likely much greater than they advertise. Which way it swings who knows for sure.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted September 25, 2020 Author Share Posted September 25, 2020 38 minutes ago, All_Pro_Bills said: The 2016 polls over-sampled registered Democrats and did not statistically represent the population they were trying to estimate from a sample. From what I've seen they are doing it again in 2020 with the added wrinkle of about 10% of registered voters in the polls refusing to provide the pollsters their choice. Most are would-be Trump voters fearing being outed by the poll takers or other's that don't believe their answers will be kept private or anonymous. So the margin of error is likely much greater than they advertise. Which way it swings who knows for sure.. Any proof of this? Or just blow gas? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary M Posted September 25, 2020 Share Posted September 25, 2020 25 minutes ago, Tiberius said: Any proof of this? Or just blow gas? An anonymous source perhaps? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted September 25, 2020 Author Share Posted September 25, 2020 Just now, Gary M said: An anonymous source perhaps? Good one. Maybe. Or just something to keep the faithful motivated Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
All_Pro_Bills Posted September 25, 2020 Share Posted September 25, 2020 32 minutes ago, Tiberius said: Any proof of this? Or just blow gas? Go examine the poll methodologies, statistical populations, and insights from the poll takers that are publicly available. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Who Posted September 25, 2020 Share Posted September 25, 2020 5 minutes ago, All_Pro_Bills said: Go examine the poll methodologies, statistical populations, and insights from the poll takers that are publicly available. Folks that can say Kamala Harris is a moderate with a straight face aren't going to be impressed with evidence the polls are skewed to over represent Democratic voters. Nor will they concede that their mob mentality intimidation is likely to cause many Trump voters to simply run silent. Then they go boohoo when the actual election proves that their propoganda efforts are not an effective measure of what the American people think and believe. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alaska Darin Posted September 25, 2020 Share Posted September 25, 2020 7 minutes ago, Dr. Who said: Folks that can say Kamala Harris is a moderate with a straight face aren't going to be impressed with evidence the polls are skewed to over represent Democratic voters. Nor will they concede that their mob mentality intimidation is likely to cause many Trump voters to simply run silent. Then they go boohoo when the actual election proves that their propoganda efforts are not an effective measure of what the American people think and believe. Shhhhhhhhhhhhhh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted September 25, 2020 Author Share Posted September 25, 2020 18 minutes ago, All_Pro_Bills said: Go examine the poll methodologies, statistical populations, and insights from the poll takers that are publicly available. Ok Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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