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2 minutes ago, PromoTheRobot said:

The hits just keep on coming.

 

 


Holy crap PTR.  THATS 10 plus the three studs who left in free agency, but as ghost said they will be competing for a championship.  I actually like the Jets guy more.  All my prayers at least three or four teams beat out the Pats for the worst record so they have no chance at Lawrence.  

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40 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

Because not everyone only has interest in their own team. Don't try and impose your style of fandom on everyone else. 

Sounds like you need a nap.

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12 minutes ago, machine gun kelly said:


Holy crap PTR.  THATS 10 plus the three studs who left in free agency, but as ghost said they will be competing for a championship.  I actually like the Jets guy more.  All my prayers at least three or four teams beat out the Pats for the worst record so they have no chance at Lawrence.  

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1 minute ago, MJS said:

Sounds like you need a nap.

 

I didn't mean it to sound aggressive. But it is a thing that pisses me off on this board. People presume that if others don't experience fandom the same way they do then somehow they are less of a fan. I have accounts on fan boards of 4 or 5 other teams. I have started them when I have specific questions about their team or scheme based on things I see when I watch their games. It is all about being open to perspectives and trying to further understanding. 

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17 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

 

I didn't mean it to sound aggressive. But it is a thing that pisses me off on this board. People presume that if others don't experience fandom the same way they do then somehow they are less of a fan. I have accounts on fan boards of 4 or 5 other teams. I have started them when I have specific questions about their team or scheme based on things I see when I watch their games. It is all about being open to perspectives and trying to further understanding. 

That's not what these guys are doing. They come here to defend their teams and discount the Bills.

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4 hours ago, Ghost_002! said:

You would lose that bet...he is not retiring no time soon. He is gunning for Shula's coaching record

 

Good luck with that.  He needs 45 more wins and that's another 5 years coaching, maybe more.

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19 minutes ago, Ghost_002! said:

show me where i did that though?

 

See below:

 

2 hours ago, Ghost_002! said:

For the both of you...there is nothing to hide I am a Pats fan. Nothing I was trying to hide

 

And bait you into what??? Im on topic with this thread I can definitely go back in forth with you but you won't like it cause your team has proven nothing.

 

I don't do on paper Champs. 

 

2 hours ago, Ghost_002! said:

Ok...

 

You do realize your team hasn't done anything right? Absolutely nothing, right? Win first, then talk.

 

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2 minutes ago, Ghost_002! said:

Are u serious or really sensitive? Didn't discount them..i stated a fact. They hadn't done anything that's the truth.

That's literally discounting them.

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5 minutes ago, MJS said:

That's literally discounting them.

 

 

Please explain to me what have they done? Did they win a division last year? Win a playoff game? Win a SB..like no...

 

If i said crap about them going into the  season cool. I would see your point. But I haven't not done so. I dont need to. 

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4 minutes ago, Ghost_002! said:

 

 

Please explain to me what have they done? Did they win a division last year? Win a playoff game? Win a SB..like no...

 

If i said crap about them going into the  season cool. I would see your point. But I haven't not done so. I dont need to. 

Went to the playoffs 2 of the last 3 years and have one of the best defenses in the league.

 

I really don't care. Say whatever you want. I just don't see the point in you coming here to defend the Patriots and discount the Bills. What are you hoping to achieve? Convert Bills fans into Patriots fans?

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1 minute ago, MJS said:

Went to the playoffs 2 of the last 3 years and have one of the best defenses in the league.

 

I really don't care. Say whatever you want. I just don't see the point in you coming here to defend the Patriots and discount the Bills. What are you hoping to achieve? Convert Bills fans into Patriots fans?

 

Maybe what he is hoping to achieve is a discussion? And the Bills do have to prove it. On paper we are now a better team than New England. But we haven't beaten them in the past 3 seasons and they have won the division 11 years straight. I am convinced we will finish ahead or them in 2020 (provided there is a season) but saying that they have to back it up.... that is fair. Indeed it is simply a fact. 

 

I am interested in whether he agrees with my assessment that with Hightower's opt out this is by my reckoning the least talented and certainly least proven defensive front 7 that Belichick has had his whole run in New England. 

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5 minutes ago, MJS said:

Went to the playoffs 2 of the last 3 years and have one of the best defenses in the league.

 

I really don't care. Say whatever you want. I just don't see the point in you coming here to defend the Patriots and discount the Bills. What are you hoping to achieve? Convert Bills fans into Patriots fans?

 

Didn't discount the bills..and i am participating in the thread..like I said before you do not have to reply to my post.

 

 

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11 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

 

Maybe what he is hoping to achieve is a discussion? And the Bills do have to prove it. On paper we are now a better team than New England. But we haven't beaten them in the past 3 seasons and they have won the division 11 years straight. I am convinced we will finish ahead or them in 2020 (provided there is a season) but saying that they have to back it up.... that is fair. Indeed it is simply a fact. 

 

I am interested in whether he agrees with my assessment that with Hightower's opt out this is by my reckoning the least talented and certainly least proven defensive front 7 that Belichick has had his whole run in New England. 

 

Hey..look because you seem to get it. Hightower is a big lost..he is the mic caller of that defensive..but its Aug..as I said before I'm not going to start acting like the sky is fallen...i will wait to see how it goes...gilmore is still there and both McCourty's twins are as well.

 

As i said before, Chung doesn't even affect me. Yes he is a vet can never have enough..but i feel they could do better at safety. Chung is on his last leg...BB plug n play with his oline all the time so its whatever plus I am sure post surgery Cam is more Mobile than brady ever was

 

And about your team i have never said anything bad about them. Like I have said outside this thread. They are a good defense, well coached and if Allen can become more accurate w his throws the league will have to start talking about the bills being in the SB conversation 

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12 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

 

Maybe what he is hoping to achieve is a discussion? And the Bills do have to prove it. On paper we are now a better team than New England. But we haven't beaten them in the past 3 seasons and they have won the division 11 years straight. I am convinced we will finish ahead or them in 2020 (provided there is a season) but saying that they have to back it up.... that is fair. Indeed it is simply a fact. 

 

I am interested in whether he agrees with my assessment that with Hightower's opt out this is by my reckoning the least talented and certainly least proven defensive front 7 that Belichick has had his whole run in New England. 

 

There is nothing to discuss at this point. No one is playing games yet. Everyone has an opinion. 

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Just now, Ghost_002! said:

 

Hey..look because you seem to get it. Hightower is a big lost..he is the mic caller of that defensive..but its Aug..as I said before I'm not going to start acting like the sky is fallen...i will wait to see how it goes...gilmore is still there and both McCourty's twins are as well.

 

As i said before, Chung doesn't even affect me. Yes he is a vet can never have enough..but i feel they could do better at safety. Chung is on his last leg...BB plug n play with his oline all the time so its whatever plus I am sure post surgery Cam is more Mobile than brady ever was

 

And about your team i have never said anything bad about l. Like I have said outside this thread. They are a good defense, well coached and if Allen can become more accurate w his throws the league will have to start talking about the bills being in the SB conversation 

 

The secondary is still going to be a top 5 or 6 unit. I am with you there. I am asking specifically about the front 7. I don't even know who starts there at this point.... but by my reckoning only Guy and Simon are back from last year's front 7 which means 5 new starters and while I like the two pass rushers you drafted in April I think it is a big ask for them to step right in. Especially with a limited camp. 

2 minutes ago, PromoTheRobot said:

 

There is nothing to discuss at this point. No one is playing games yet. Everyone has an opinion. 

 

So let's discuss those opinions. That is what we are here for. 

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17 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

 

The secondary is still going to be a top 5 or 6 unit. I am with you there. I am asking specifically about the front 7. I don't even know who starts there at this point.... but by my reckoning only Guy and Simon are back from last year's front 7 which means 5 new starters and while I like the two pass rushers you drafted in April I think it is a big ask for them to step right in. Especially with a limited camp. 

 

 

 

No as of right now..the front seven looks shakey as hell....and its always the least favorite positions i like to talk about..ha ha

 

But i hope their front seven  doesn't turns out like KCs from a few seasons ago where they got pushed around left and right from almost everyone.

 

Where they took the hit most was at LBers/probable pass rushers

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6 minutes ago, Ghost_002! said:

 @GunnerBill

Has Allen and Diggs started working out together yet?

 

I believe they worked out together some in the offseason but I haven't followed as much of that as other years given everything that has been going on. I don't think players have been on the field at camp yet. Tomorrow is the first opportunity I believe. 

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27 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

 

I believe they worked out together some in the offseason but I haven't followed as much of that as other years given everything that has been going on. I don't think players have been on the field at camp yet. Tomorrow is the first opportunity I believe. 

 

True..except if you are tom brady..apparently  only he can workout with his whole offense while everyone else have to practice social distances...

 

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6 hours ago, Ghost_002! said:

Ok...

 

You do realize your team hasn't done anything right? Absolutely nothing, right? Win first, then talk.

 

You do realize your team hasn't done anything right this year? Absolutely nothing except opt out, right? Do something and then go talk elsewhere. 

5 hours ago, Ghost_002! said:

Its called having a sport discussion. Every board in America has other opposing fans on it and its a free country. You do not have to respond to any of them or even me.

 

You have not discussed any sports.

 

And dree country has NOTHING to do with private boards. You know that or are you just smoking dung fumes?

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38 minutes ago, Limeaid said:

 

You do realize your team hasn't done anything right this year? Absolutely nothing except opt out, right? Do something and then go talk elsewhere. 

 

You have not discussed any sports.

 

And dree country has NOTHING to do with private boards. You know that or are you just smoking dung fumes?

 

 

Ahh ok.

 

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4 minutes ago, H2o said:

That's both of their starting Safeties now. 

 

 

H2o if the Pats end up going 2-14 and getting Lawrence there is a solid chance I am going to punch myself in the nuts as hard as I can until I pass out.

 

...and unfortunately that has been my go to punishment far too much lately.

 

 

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2 hours ago, dollars 2 donuts said:

 

 

H2o if the Pats end up going 2-14 and getting Lawrence there is a solid chance I am going to punch myself in the nuts as hard as I can until I pass out.

 

...and unfortunately that has been my go to punishment far too much lately.

 

 

I’d be shocked if a Belly coached team sucked so bad to get the #1 overall pick that it would take for Lawrence, but that defense of theirs has taken some serious body blows this offseason. 

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4 minutes ago, TheProcess said:

I’d be shocked if a Belly coached team sucked so bad to get the #1 overall pick that it would take for Lawrence, but that defense of theirs has taken some serious body blows this offseason. 


Yeah, been saying that coaching his team to the first overall pick would be a bad look for him. Even a top five pick.

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