ColoradoBills Posted August 19, 2020 Share Posted August 19, 2020 31 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: That is kind of the point. Di Marco doesn't do the same job as Taiwan Jones or Tyler Matakevich. Jones is a gunner. Matakevich is a tackling demon. That isn't what you put a full back out there to do. He is there to engage the return teams blockers to keep them off of guys like Matakevich so that they can get down field and make tackles. Think of him as the special team equivalent of someone like Star as a defensive lineman responsible for occupying opponents rather than making loads of plays himself. On punt return DiMarco protects the punt catcher, on kick returns he plays one of what they used to call the wedge positions but they don't call them that now because the pure "wedge block" is outlawed. On Bills punts he normally plays the left wing, but I think has done some personal protector in the past. Is he irreplaceable? No, he isn't. Would the rookie offer more on offense? Probably. Is he a potentially more athletic option on special teams? Yes. But some of those old veteran smarts and nuances to the position you only know you miss when they are gone. Having lost Zo who was one of their ST captains I suspect they will be loathed to lose another one in DiMarco. I agree about veteran presence and all but the evidence is starting to pile up as to his time in Buffalo coming to an end. His offensive snap count last year was the lowest since his rookie season. His special teams snap count went down from 233 to 156 last year. He accepted a 700k pay cut this year. He is 31 years old on the last year of his contract. If Gilliam beats him out in TC even with his 500k dead money the team saves 800k in cap. Taking the pay cut may keep him here for his last year (Gilliam to PS) but I don't think Pat is in any long term plans for the future. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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GunnerBill Posted August 19, 2020 Share Posted August 19, 2020 7 minutes ago, ColoradoBills said: I agree about veteran presence and all but the evidence is starting to pile up as to his time in Buffalo coming to an end. His offensive snap count last year was the lowest since his rookie season. His special teams snap count went down from 233 to 156 last year. He accepted a 700k pay cut this year. He is 31 years old on the last year of his contract. If Gilliam beats him out in TC even with his 500k dead money the team saves 800k in cap. Taking the pay cut may keep him here for his last year (Gilliam to PS) but I don't think Pat is in any long term plans for the future. Oh I absolutely think this is DiMarco's final season. I think they would like to sneak Gilliam on the PS and ease that transition into 2021. If Gilliam just flat beats him out they will cut DiMarco. But he would have to convincingly beat him out in all facets including special teams for that to happen IMO, and I am not convinced it will. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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ROCBillsBeliever Posted August 19, 2020 Share Posted August 19, 2020 14 hours ago, SlimShady'sSpaceForce said: A sign? They found the path that lake effect snowsqualls take into the stadium... Congratulations, Buffalo meteorologists! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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CSBill Posted August 19, 2020 Share Posted August 19, 2020 53 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: Oh I absolutely think this is DiMarco's final season. I think they would like to sneak Gilliam on the PS and ease that transition into 2021. If Gilliam just flat beats him out they will cut DiMarco. But he would have to convincingly beat him out in all facets including special teams for that to happen IMO, and I am not convinced it will. Called it in another thread, one undrafted rookie who makes the team: Gilliam. Surprise cut: DiMarco. I feel more confident in that now. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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BuffaLoko Posted August 19, 2020 Share Posted August 19, 2020 3 hours ago, No_Matter_What said: Me! I thought it has something to do with me not being native speaker but apparently not lol. @NMW... Happen to me as well... wtf did he say? ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted August 19, 2020 Share Posted August 19, 2020 1 hour ago, YoloinOhio said: Thought it was going take them like 3 days to ramp up to full speed so maybe this is an off day before they start to really hit the ground running? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted August 19, 2020 Share Posted August 19, 2020 1 minute ago, Warcodered said: Thought it was going take them like 3 days to ramp up to full speed so maybe this is an off day before they start to really hit the ground running? Full contact tomorrow. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted August 19, 2020 Share Posted August 19, 2020 19 minutes ago, eball said: Full contact tomorrow. 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comebackkid Posted August 19, 2020 Share Posted August 19, 2020 1 minute ago, Royale with Cheese said: Don Beebe years 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted August 19, 2020 Share Posted August 19, 2020 14 hours ago, That's No Moon said: Because he knows BB spends his time breaking down offenses and their verbiage. It's also possible that he's trying to simply verbiage so they can do no-huddle more easily I'm not saying it's likely 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atlbillsfan1975 Posted August 19, 2020 Share Posted August 19, 2020 7 hours ago, GunnerBill said: I disagree completely. I don't think a lot of people understand his role on special teams. My assertion is based on having watched the all 22 every week. People don't understand what they are looking at and I hear stuff like "oh he doesn't make many special teams tackles." That isn't his job. Certainly on punt formation they used him as the wing (normally the left wing). A lot of people tried to put the Patriots punt block on him but it wasn't. He motioned several times that he had two guys and the personal protector who was Kurt Coleman should have slid over, but didn't. If Joe actually got into detailed breakdown of where and when he thought DiMarco underperformed on STs last year then I will listen to his podcast and go back and re-look at those instances but if it was just a general "he graded out poorly" then I will stick with my own assessment. Don’t want to pick nits with you, since you brought it up, shouldn’t a Vet with plenty of experience called a timeout? That play was the game changer. Pat knew how deep the Bills were and that the Pats has been aggressive on ST’s. Leaders take a stand. That block could of been prevented by a timeout. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted August 19, 2020 Share Posted August 19, 2020 On 8/18/2020 at 10:26 AM, SWATeam said: It's definitely a position where we are lacking a little depth. It's nice that this scheme is CB friendly. Seems like we can find useful guys anywhere. Sure even McKenzie can play ironman if needed and be extra DB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted August 19, 2020 Share Posted August 19, 2020 10 minutes ago, atlbillsfan1975 said: Don’t want to pick nits with you, since you brought it up, shouldn’t a Vet with plenty of experience called a timeout? That play was the game changer. Pat knew how deep the Bills were and that the Pats has been aggressive on ST’s. Leaders take a stand. That block could of been prevented by a timeout. Possibly. We don't know what they are coached to do in that situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bills Survivor Posted August 19, 2020 Share Posted August 19, 2020 3 hours ago, ROCBillsBeliever said: They found the path that lake effect snowsqualls take into the stadium... Congratulations, Buffalo meteorologists! Is that a double rainbow?!? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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