Mike in Horseheads Posted June 16, 2020 Share Posted June 16, 2020 (edited) Buffalo Sabres @BuffaloSabres · 1m We have relieved Jason Botterill of his duties as General Manager. Senior Vice President of Business Administration Kevyn Adams has been named General Manager. Edited June 16, 2020 by Mike in Horseheads Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
May Day 10 Posted June 16, 2020 Share Posted June 16, 2020 Wow. Kevyn Adams.... that is a choice for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan4 Posted June 16, 2020 Share Posted June 16, 2020 https://wyrk.com/breaking-buffalo-sabres-fire-gm-jason-botterill/ Wonder what this means for Ralph Krueger? WTF?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rockpile233 Posted June 16, 2020 Share Posted June 16, 2020 (edited) WTF Kevyn Adams? Can someone who knows him better make me feel ok about that? Might just be interim, but he would be another first time GM right? Edited June 16, 2020 by Rockpile233 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shrader Posted June 16, 2020 Share Posted June 16, 2020 5 minutes ago, Rockpile233 said: WTF Kevyn Adams? Can someone who knows him better make me feel ok about that? Might just be interim, but he would be another first time GM right? They haven't used the interim label on this just yet, but it has to be a transitional thing. It makes me wonder if they're just playing out that one year left on Botterill's contract. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnC Posted June 16, 2020 Share Posted June 16, 2020 12 minutes ago, BillsFan4 said: https://wyrk.com/breaking-buffalo-sabres-fire-gm-jason-botterill/ Wonder what this means for Ralph Krueger? WTF?? I don't think it does anything harmful to Krueger's status. In fact it might make him more influential regarding personnel matters. I'm speculating like everyone else with what happened here. My guess is that Botterill was asked about what his strategy was to make this team more relevant in the league. If he said he was staying the course then he gave the owners an answer that they were not satisfied with. What I would like to know is if Kevyn Adams is the temporary acting GM or if another GM will be sought? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted June 16, 2020 Share Posted June 16, 2020 Going do be dare inderesding morning on dare 'Insdigadors' dare. ? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALF Posted June 16, 2020 Share Posted June 16, 2020 What the heck happened , I thought Botts was just given a vote of confidence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
May Day 10 Posted June 16, 2020 Share Posted June 16, 2020 what a circus organization. Really awful. I hate Botterill, but they need a seismic shift. Not promote the guy from the adjacent office they are comfortable with. This is the Ralph Wilson Bills from 2003-2013. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan4 Posted June 16, 2020 Share Posted June 16, 2020 (edited) 7 minutes ago, JohnC said: I don't think it does anything harmful to Krueger's status. In fact it might make him more influential regarding personnel matters. I'm speculating like everyone else with what happened here. My guess is that Botterill was asked about what his strategy was to make this team more relevant in the league. If he said he was staying the course then he gave the owners an answer that they were not satisfied with. What I would like to know is if Kevyn Adams is the temporary acting GM or if another GM will be sought? They named him full time GM. No interim. He and Ralph will be working together, it sounds like. 6 minutes ago, ALF said: What the heck happened , I thought Botts was just given a vote of confidence. ?♂️ Edited June 16, 2020 by BillsFan4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shrader Posted June 16, 2020 Share Posted June 16, 2020 Just now, JohnC said: What I would like to know is if Kevyn Adams is the temporary acting GM or if another GM will be sought? And then there's Greeley who was passed over for Adams. He was getting interviews over the last couple years and it sounded like he was and up and comer. Is he going to be out too? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Purplebulldog Posted June 16, 2020 Share Posted June 16, 2020 Let go this AM- Kevyn Adams new GM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
May Day 10 Posted June 16, 2020 Share Posted June 16, 2020 So how many years do we need to wait until we can lock in the fact that Adams is in over his head and terrible? 3 seasons? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jauronimo Posted June 16, 2020 Share Posted June 16, 2020 27 minutes ago, May Day 10 said: Wow. Kevyn Adams.... that is a choice for sure. Inspiring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan4 Posted June 16, 2020 Share Posted June 16, 2020 (edited) https://www.nhl.com/sabres/news/sabres-name-kevyn-adams-senior-vice-president-of-business-administration/c-309397640 I didnt know Adams was running the business administration side of the Sabres. I thought he just worked at harborcenter. It makes me feel a bit better that he does at least have some experience in an NHL front office. He also has NHL playing + coaching experience. Maybe he’ll end up being a well rounded candidate. I knew he was being groomed by the Sabres for years. I didn’t expect him to be named GM yet, though. Im shocked but I’m sure I’ll find reasons to get excited. I’ll be anxious to hear Adams address the media. On a positive, “it’s a situation where” His press conferences can’t be any worse and less inspiring than Botterill’s were... ? Edited June 16, 2020 by BillsFan4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangarang Posted June 16, 2020 Share Posted June 16, 2020 (edited) Kevyn Adams has never been a GM and was working on the business side of things prior to this. Someone can correct me if I'm wrong but Adams seems like a dumpster fire waiting to happen. Edited June 16, 2020 by Bangarang 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnC Posted June 16, 2020 Share Posted June 16, 2020 2 minutes ago, BillsFan4 said: They named him GM. He and Ralph will be working together, it sounds like. ?♂️ If Adams is the GM is it for one year or was he given a contract? This is just my quick reading/speculating of the situation is that Krueger and Adams were aligned while Botts had a different approach. My sense is that Krueger will have more influence with Adams than he did with Botts. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted June 16, 2020 Share Posted June 16, 2020 Who is going to be explaining away jersey faux pas now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnC Posted June 16, 2020 Share Posted June 16, 2020 6 minutes ago, shrader said: And then there's Greeley who was passed over for Adams. He was getting interviews over the last couple years and it sounded like he was and up and comer. Is he going to be out too? With confidence I can say: I know nothing! https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=catch+phrase+sgt+shultz+i+know+nothing&&view=detail&mid=FF75AB3BB69E4CF9B920FF75AB3BB69E4CF9B920&rvsmid=48EF9390F79269AAAF5848EF9390F79269AAAF58&FORM=VDQVAP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan4 Posted June 16, 2020 Share Posted June 16, 2020 1 minute ago, JohnC said: If Adams is the GM is it for one year or was he given a contract? This is just my quick reading/speculating of the situation is that Krueger and Adams were aligned while Botts had a different approach. My sense is that Krueger will have more influence with Adams than he did with Botts. I get the same sense. I’m always nervous giving a coach more influence over their rosters. But Krueger does have relevant experience. He’s been a team president and He helped put together the Swiss rosters for a decade +. Hey, Maybe they’ll end up being the Bills Beane/McDermott combo? I can tell I've been a Buffalo sports fan for too long when I’m already finding reasons to get excited about this.... ? 11 minutes ago, shrader said: And then there's Greeley who was passed over for Adams. He was getting interviews over the last couple years and it sounded like he was and up and comer. Is he going to be out too? Yes, both Greeley and Sexton fired too. Bummer about Greeley. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plenzmd1 Posted June 16, 2020 Share Posted June 16, 2020 22 minutes ago, Rockpile233 said: WTF Kevyn Adams? Can someone who knows him better make me feel ok about that? Might just be interim, but he would be another first time GM right? WNY native, long time NHL player..business admin side of Sabres now. BTW, won a Cup with the HUrricanes in 06, so maybe this is the Sabres cosmic offering to the hockey gods that finally gets this franchise back to that spot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
May Day 10 Posted June 16, 2020 Share Posted June 16, 2020 Adams played hockey and lives in Buffalo. Took a few college courses and worked at Harbor Center. Most importantly, Kim Pegula is comfortable challenging him with ideas. Perfect GM for this team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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plenzmd1 Posted June 16, 2020 Share Posted June 16, 2020 1 minute ago, May Day 10 said: Adams played hockey and lives in Buffalo. Took a few college courses and worked at Harbor Center. Most importantly, Kim Pegula is comfortable challenging him with ideas. Perfect GM for this team. and , maybe the heat from the @john wawrow interview dies down a bit now...placate the masses Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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May Day 10 Posted June 16, 2020 Share Posted June 16, 2020 Just now, plenzmd1 said: and , maybe the heat from the @john wawrow interview dies down a bit now...placate the masses This actually makes me more ill. Id take Botterill/Sexton/Greeley over Adams/Kruger. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan4 Posted June 16, 2020 Share Posted June 16, 2020 (edited) Edited June 16, 2020 by BillsFan4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shoshin Posted June 16, 2020 Share Posted June 16, 2020 Breaking news: Botterill out Me: I CAN'T WAIT TO SEE WHO THEY HIRE. HOPE IS ON THE WAY! SO EXCITED!!!!! Statement: Kevyn Adams is the new GM. Me: 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG Posted June 16, 2020 Share Posted June 16, 2020 15 minutes ago, ALF said: What the heck happened , I thought Botts was just given a vote of confidence. The proverbial kiss of death! I think the reaction from the press after Kim's support finally opened up the owners' eyes. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Tuesday Posted June 16, 2020 Share Posted June 16, 2020 16 minutes ago, Bangarang said: Kevyn Adams has never been a GM and was working on the business side of things prior to this. Someone can correct me if I'm wrong but Adams seems like a dumpster fire waiting to happen. Russ Brandon without the baggage. FFY 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plenzmd1 Posted June 16, 2020 Share Posted June 16, 2020 6 minutes ago, May Day 10 said: This actually makes me more ill. Id take Botterill/Sexton/Greeley over Adams/Kruger. I would not go that far...Botterill i know is bad...Adams i have no clue...but can he really take the Sabres lower in the standings than Botts did? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfanmiami(oh) Posted June 16, 2020 Share Posted June 16, 2020 13 minutes ago, plenzmd1 said: WNY native, long time NHL player..business admin side of Sabres now. BTW, won a Cup with the HUrricanes in 06, so maybe this is the Sabres cosmic offering to the hockey gods that finally gets this franchise back to that spot Played at my alma mater also! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanC883 Posted June 16, 2020 Share Posted June 16, 2020 just shocked. I'm a Pens fan, and he was supposed to take over for Rutherford. Then, suddenly, the Pens were okay with Rutherford sticking around and Botterill going to the Sabers. For any Sabers fans here, what was the issue? Bad trades? He always got a lot of credit for the Pens good trades, but it does seem the trades/scouting here got even better once he left. 26 minutes ago, Purplebulldog said: Let go this AM- Kevyn Adams new GM is Kervyn an interim GM? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted June 16, 2020 Share Posted June 16, 2020 8 minutes ago, shoshin said: I looked quickly at his avatar, and thought it was plenzmd1! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan4 Posted June 16, 2020 Share Posted June 16, 2020 Adams assistant GM hire(s) are going to be extremely important. I’m really hoping they can find someone with lots of experience. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shrader Posted June 16, 2020 Share Posted June 16, 2020 1 minute ago, BillsFan4 said: Adams assistant GM hire(s) are going to be extremely important. I’m really hoping they can find someone with lots of experience. Would anyone even recognize experience in the assistant GM role? I know I couldn't tell you anyone in that role anywhere along the league. Hell, I don't even know if we had anyone in that position prior to the current group. I only know of Greeley because I used to watch him play back in his college days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Tuesday Posted June 16, 2020 Share Posted June 16, 2020 3 minutes ago, RyanC883 said: just shocked. I'm a Pens fan, and he was supposed to take over for Rutherford. Then, suddenly, the Pens were okay with Rutherford sticking around and Botterill going to the Sabers. For any Sabers fans here, what was the issue? Bad trades? He always got a lot of credit for the Pens good trades, but it does seem the trades/scouting here got even better once he left. is Kervyn an interim GM? Horrible scouting program and no idea how to build a roster/allocate resources. At least Tim Murray could evaluate talent - he just pissed everyone off who worked with him and squandered draft picks too freely. Botterill couldn't even evaluate talent. He torched the roster and set the team back another 5 years. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsVet Posted June 16, 2020 Share Posted June 16, 2020 Well. That Pegula vote of confidence was essentially Michael Corleone kissing his brother Fredo (not a reference to a media member). 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan4 Posted June 16, 2020 Share Posted June 16, 2020 There it is. 1 minute ago, shrader said: Would anyone even recognize experience in the assistant GM role? I know I couldn't tell you anyone in that role anywhere along the league. Hell, I don't even know if we had anyone in that position prior to the current group. I only know of Greeley because I used to watch him play back in his college days. I am thinking along the lines of Lafontaine hiring Craig Patrick. Or Ron Hextall bringing in Dean Lombardi. Or even Botterill hiring Randy Sexton, who had experience as a GM (though I’m hoping for better than Sexton...). It doesn’t necessarily have to be in an asst. GM role. I just want him to hire someone experienced to help him. I have to imagine he will. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanC883 Posted June 16, 2020 Share Posted June 16, 2020 Just now, Coach Tuesday said: Horrible scouting program and no idea how to build a roster/allocate resources. At least Tim Murray could evaluate talent - he just pissed everyone off who worked with him and squandered draft picks too freely. Botterill couldn't even evaluate talent. He torched the roster and set the team back another 5 years. perhaps the Pens were fine with him leaving for that reason and saw it ahead of time. Wish he went to team besides the Sabers if he was that bad. Like the Capitals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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