2020 Election is officially Trump vs Biden

[bilzfancy]

1 hour ago, B-Man said:

 

Harris would be a terrible pick, in my opinion, his best bet, if he wants a female, is Warren. Any VP will probably be president in fairly short order, if, God forbid, he wins.

[Deranged Rhino]

 

[bilzfancy]

14 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said:

 

That was freaking awesome!

[B-Man]

 

 

 

[KRC]

16 hours ago, Joe Miner said:

Guile isn’t all that feminine.  
 

 

Looks like BG has been hitting the gym.

[Magox]

Just when Trump started to move things in the right direction he does what he does.

 

Ughhh

 

He can't help himself.

 

 

[Tiberius]

The side calling for our democracy to be put on hold is obviously losing 

[Magox]

This from a guy who was a big supporter of everything he did in the last election cycle.

 

[Buffalo_Gal]

47 minutes ago, Magox said:

This from a guy who was a big supporter of everything he did in the last election cycle.

 

Really? Because I see it as, "Trump wants to delay the election!! <heads spinning> We need to open up!"  

Also, note the question marks... he is not saying this as should, he is questioning it. ?  But, the results will be Trump says delay the election. It appears that is how you took it.

 

[Magox]

6 minutes ago, Buffalo_Gal said:

Really? Because I see it as, "Trump wants to delay the election!! <heads spinning> We need to open up!"  

Also, note the question marks... he is not saying this as should, he is questioning it. ?  But, the results will be Trump says delay the election. It appears that is how you took it.

 

 

I understand the English language Buffalo Gal.

 

It's stupid to ponder it.  It takes him off message.  You don't believe that he hardly ever does anything wrong, and that is fine, that is your view.

 

I happen to think that he does tons of things wrong and that he is narcissistic buffoon that just can't help himself.

 

He is what he is.   

 

 

 

 

[IDBillzFan]

4 minutes ago, Magox said:

 

I understand the English language Buffalo Gal.

 

It's stupid to ponder it.  It takes him off message.  You don't believe that he hardly ever does anything wrong, and that is fine, that is your view.

 

I happen to think that he does tons of things wrong and that he is narcissistic buffoon that just can't help himself.

 

He is what he is.   

 

I agree here. Another forced error on his part that gives the far-left megahorn...far and away the biggest megahorn out there...the ammo they need to continue pounding a message they've already started to share -- that Trump may not accept the results of the election.

 

Just ridiculously stupid, but like you said;  this is who he is. For better or worse...and this is absolutely for worse.

[Buffalo_Gal]

5 minutes ago, Magox said:

 

I understand the English language Buffalo Gal.

 

It's stupid to ponder it.  It takes him off message.  You don't believe that he hardly ever does anything wrong, and that is fine, that is your view.

 

I happen to think that he does tons of things wrong and that he is narcissistic buffoon that just can't help himself.

 

He is what he is.  

We shall see. You could be correct. I look at it as he usually has a purpose behind his tweets. They may not be the most artfully expressed to some people, they may even be poorly expressed. But, there is usually a reason.

[Magox]

4 minutes ago, IDBillzFan said:

 

I agree here. Another forced error on his part that gives the far-left megahorn...far and away the biggest megahorn out there...the ammo they need to continue pounding a message they've already started to share -- that Trump may not accept the results of the election.

 

Just ridiculously stupid, but like you said;  this is who he is. For better or worse...and this is absolutely for worse.

 

He’s the only real option available to slow down this radical leftward lurch.  He was doing so well (by his standards), staying on message.  I noticed that over the past couple of days his tweeting activity was going up and I knew that was a harbinger of stupidity to come.  Sure enough.  
 

Bingo!  Stupidity.

 

Now Pompeo is saying the federal government has the authority to delay the elections.   GOP politicians who are up for tough elections are hiding from journalists so they don’t have to answer to the pack of rabid journalists on if they agree with Trump.  
 

It’s like pulling for your football team who is on a losing streak and just shaking your head of all the turnovers and penalties that they are committing.

 

Whatever.  

[Taro T]

5 minutes ago, Buffalo_Gal said:

We shall see. You could be correct. I look at it as he usually has a purpose behind his tweets. They may not be the most artfully expressed to some people, they may even be poorly expressed. But, there is usually a reason.

 

My 2 cents.  This, on 1st glance appears to be a very dumb thing to say and looks like an unforced error.  But, am wondering what we'll hear / see come out in the next couple of days that will make it look not nearly as dumb.

 

Probably 80% of the things that he tweets that are beyond cringeworthy when 1st sent end up being a way for him to get a lot of his enemies to go railing about something THEY end up on the wrong side of once more info comes to light.

 

But, unless it was a gambit, as you suggested, to get the D's to want to open stuff back up; really not sure what wondering whether elections should be delayed gets him.  Not seeing where "the rest of the story" jujitsu's this back onto the TDSers/NTers.  But we shall see.

 

 

[Magox]

15 minutes ago, Buffalo_Gal said:

We shall see. You could be correct. I look at it as he usually has a purpose behind his tweets. They may not be the most artfully expressed to some people, they may even be poorly expressed. But, there is usually a reason.

Im pulling for him because I love our country.

 

The other side Doesn’t love what made us great and wants to turn us into something I deeply loathe.  
 

This is where my frustration lies.

Edited July 30, 2020 by Magox

[Buffalo_Gal]

Just now, Magox said:

Im pulling for him because I love of our country.

 

The other side Doesn’t love what made us great and wants to turn us into something I deeply loathe.  
 

This is where my frustration lies.

I am not saying he cannot be frustrating. LOL I get that. Boy, do I get that. I am saying 48-72 hour rule.

 

[IDBillzFan]

1 minute ago, Magox said:

 

He’s the only real option available to slow down this radical leftward lurch.  He was doing so well (by his standards), staying on message.  I noticed that over the past couple of days his tweeting activity was going up and I knew that was a harbinger of stupidity to come.  Sure enough.  
 

Bingo!  Stupidity.

 

What he needs to do, at least in my eyes, is use Twitter to do one thing: hammer Biden. It's the easiest thing to do because the whole world knows Biden is mentally done. Just pound him on his 40 years of nothingness, and even go so far as to tell everyone you think the left is just using them for their shadow government, so be careful who he picks for VP.

 

Hell, if I can give sound campaign advice, you know he's screwing this up.

[BuffaloHokie13]

9 minutes ago, Magox said:

 

He’s the only real option available to slow down this radical leftward lurch.  He was doing so well (by his standards), staying on message.  I noticed that over the past couple of days his tweeting activity was going up and I knew that was a harbinger of stupidity to come.  Sure enough.  
 

Bingo!  Stupidity.

 

Now Pompeo is saying the federal government has the authority to delay the elections.   GOP politicians who are up for tough elections are hiding from journalists so they don’t have to answer to the pack of rabid journalists on if they agree with Trump.  
 

It’s like pulling for your football team who is on a losing streak and just shaking your head of all the turnovers and penalties that they are committing.

 

Whatever.  

I think the affordable housing tweets were even worse, but that's my field so maybe it's more personal. 

[Taro T]

2 minutes ago, IDBillzFan said:

 

What he needs to do, at least in my eyes, is use Twitter to do one thing: hammer Biden. It's the easiest thing to do because the whole world knows Biden is mentally done. Just pound him on his 40 years of nothingness, and even go so far as to tell everyone you think the left is just using them for their shadow government, so be careful who he picks for VP.

 

Hell, if I can give sound campaign advice, you know he's screwing this up.

 

Until after the D's convention when they are locked into Biden as the nominee, IMHO 45 should not go all out on showing how unqualified Biden in his current state is.  If he scores some significant body blows now we could end up with either Sanders or Cuomo (or possibly even somebody else that is even worse) that D's might have enthusiasm for.

 

And if D voters are enthusiastic AND we have mail in voting, we could see a 2009 like supermajority.  Which is extremely troubling given the direction D-led places seem to be heading.

[Magox]

2 minutes ago, BuffaloHokie13 said:

I think the affordable housing tweets were even worse, but that's my field so maybe it's more personal. 

That was another stupid tweet.

 

Totally forgot about that and when I saw it yesterday I just shook my head.

[sabrecrazed]

I find it funny that everyone's hair is on fire over this tweet, but nobody cares that the Democrats want to change our entire system of voting. 

[Buffalo_Gal]

2 minutes ago, sabrecrazed said:

I find it funny that everyone's hair is on fire over this tweet, but nobody cares that the Democrats want to change our entire system of voting. 

Hopefully this will make the left defend in-person voting so the election can be on time and in person.

[B-Man]

 

 

Don't pretend otherwise..............

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Deranged Rhino]

 

[sabrecrazed]

48 minutes ago, Buffalo_Gal said:

Hopefully this will make the left defend in-person voting so the election can be on time and in person.

I hope you are right. 

[IDBillzFan]

[bilzfancy]

17 minutes ago, IDBillzFan said:

A witch, the Ayatollah, senile old man and a criminal, the Dems must be so proud

[Deranged Rhino]

 

[Deranged Rhino]

 

[Koko78]

53 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said:

 

 

Uh oh. If Biden's numbers in the suppression polls are dropping this much, imagine what the actual numbers look like.

[B-Man]

 

 

 

 

 

[3rdnlng]

4 hours ago, Koko78 said:

 

Uh oh. If Biden's numbers in the suppression polls are dropping this much, imagine what the actual numbers look like.

Exactly.

[transplantbillsfan]

 

I hope everyone who resides here is prepared to see something similar to the image below A LOT!!!

 

[Rob's House]

Copied and pasted

 

Why Republicans eventually lose, every time...

 

Conservative values are based on freedom and opportunity, and it takes a certain level of logic and reason to understand the mechanisms that allow freedom to breed opportunity, such that lives improve.

It is, in the meantime, very easy to say things like, “I believe in PEOPLE and will NOT let your desire for FREEDUMB exclude people from access to HEALTHCARE and FOOD!!!!!”

 

The second quote is clever in many ways, even as it is misleading.  First, it ridicules freedom, and personalizes freedom in a way that makes it about greed and excess - those who want freedom are portrayed as the ‘I have mine and screw the rest of you’ crowd.

 

Second, it conflates freedom, and conservative values in general, with pain, suffering, and starvation.  It essentially says, “People are sick, injured, and hungry because YOU DO NOT CARE!!!”

 

Third, it is purely moralistic.  It offers no mechanisms, and requires no sense of logic or reason.  It, rather, creates a false binary between freedom and survival, without any indication for how those things may, or may not be, related.  It implies a simple choice:  if you are for freedom, you must be against survival.

 

Fourth, it implies, without stating, that being against government providing things, is the same as being against those things being provided.  It implies that being against a government takeover of medical care is the same as being against having medical care provided, and that being against a government takeover of the food industry is the same as being against having food.

 

Most importantly...  It encourages conservatives to use logic and reason to deconstruct the statement, such that we can rip it apart (exactly as I just did).

Ronald Reagan once said, “If you are explaining, you are losing.”  When we focus solely on logic and reason, without pivoting to morality, we cede the moral high ground and turn off the electorate.  

 

Much of the electorate does not have the time, nor the patience, to listen to logic and reason.  They just want to do the right thing.  In this way, the Democrats are better at messaging.

 

Getting better at our moral communication is not difficult.  We just have to learn to pack our logical, well reasoned arguments, in a moral sandwich.  Start with a moral claim, back it with reason and logic, and then restate it at the end.

 

Instead of ‘socialism would be great if it worked,’ followed by a bunch of arguments about how socialism cannot work, say, ‘socialism has killed more people than has smallpox, and it makes people no more important than farm animals,” followed by all of the logical arguments making THAT statement true.  Finally, restate the fact that socialism is evil, as it treats people like farm animals, and kills more effectively than do plagues.

 

We win the occasional election, but very little if anything gets rolled back when we do.  Democrats, in the meantime, bide their time, and then come back with new ways to grow government.

 

If we want to win in the long term, we need to convince people that growing government is morally wrong.

[RiotAct]

^^^^^Good post.

 

I’ve cringed  every time I heard someone trotting out the sarcastic “MUH RIGHTS!!!” trope in the last 4 months, totally dismissing peoples’ valid concerns about an eventual return to normalcy.  Lazy thinking.

 

Of course, ironically enough, these are probably the same people who laid into Bush and company back in 2001/2002 when we started having to remove our belts and shoes at the airports.

[B-Man]

 

 

 

 

[B-Man]

 

 

  Clouds of Summer Obscure the Coming Thunder of November.

 

 

 

 

 

[B-Man]

 

 

An effective presentation of what Trump got right and Biden got wrong about the coronavirus.

 

 

 

[B-Man]

Joe Biden Will Choose His Running Mate Tomorrow, and Here Are His Options

 

 

 

 

 

[BillStime]

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