Irv Posted May 29, 2020 Share Posted May 29, 2020 (edited) Got done watching Shawshank for the 100th time. If Andy was such a damn genius, why did he go straight to the Warden when he found out that Tommy knew the truth about his wife’s and her tennis coach’s death? What an idiot. Edited June 1, 2020 by Irv Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4merper4mer Posted May 29, 2020 Share Posted May 29, 2020 7 hours ago, Irv said: Got done watching Shawshank for the 100th time. If Andy was such a damn genius, why did he go straight to the Warden when he found out that Tommy knew the truth about his wife’s and her tennis coach’s death? What an idiot? Also, why not enter the sewage line as close as possible to the building's edge. Did he have a desire to crawl through extra poop? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thenorthremembers Posted May 29, 2020 Share Posted May 29, 2020 Say what you want but he is living a millionaires life on the beach and we are typing on a message board. I'd switch results with that guy in a second, minus living with an old Irish convict. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted May 29, 2020 Share Posted May 29, 2020 9 hours ago, Irv said: Got done watching Shawshank for the 100th time. If Andy was such a damn genius, why did he go straight to the Warden when he found out that Tommy knew the truth about his wife’s and her tennis coach’s death? What an idiot? He trusted the Warden being an honorable man. He knows Bible verses. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted May 29, 2020 Share Posted May 29, 2020 Who else was he going to tell, that would have helped him? I usually look for plot holes in movies but that wasn't one IMHO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seasons1992 Posted May 29, 2020 Share Posted May 29, 2020 Irv, What the hell are you doing asking these type of questions about the best movie ever made? Stop thinking, and just enjoy! He got out, he put the bad guys to sleep, and the sisters never laid a finger on Andy again. As far as we know, Boggs lived out his days eating his meals through a straw. LET IT GO. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RochesterRob Posted May 29, 2020 Share Posted May 29, 2020 2 hours ago, Royale with Cheese said: He trusted the Warden being an honorable man. He knows Bible verses. The warden could not appear too honorable as he was using prison labor to line his pockets. It was just a way to make Andy's suffering appear more Biblical in nature plus get the movie to the desired run time. Anyways, most fictional works including television have plot holes and this was a far less offensive example in the scheme of things. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irv Posted May 29, 2020 Author Share Posted May 29, 2020 (edited) 2 hours ago, Doc said: Who else was he going to tell, that would have helped him? I usually look for plot holes in movies but that wasn't one IMHO. I bet you don’t trust your wife. She’d probably go behind your back. Hamstring you. Edited May 29, 2020 by Irv 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted May 29, 2020 Share Posted May 29, 2020 32 minutes ago, RochesterRob said: The warden could not appear too honorable as he was using prison labor to line his pockets. It was just a way to make Andy's suffering appear more Biblical in nature plus get the movie to the desired run time. Anyways, most fictional works including television have plot holes and this was a far less offensive example in the scheme of things. People who quote the Bible, like all the time....are always honorable people. Thats why Im a huge Jim Baker fan....he’s the bees knees when it comes to honorable. Steve Martin did a good job playing the Warden huh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RochesterRob Posted May 29, 2020 Share Posted May 29, 2020 11 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said: People who quote the Bible, like all the time....are always honorable people. Thats why Im a huge Jim Baker fan....he’s the bees knees when it comes to honorable. Steve Martin did a good job playing the Warden huh? I don't understand the Steve Martin reference. I thought Bob Gunton was very good as the warden. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted May 29, 2020 Share Posted May 29, 2020 2 minutes ago, RochesterRob said: I don't understand the Steve Martin reference. I thought Bob Gunton was very good as the warden. Who is Bob Gunton? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RochesterRob Posted May 29, 2020 Share Posted May 29, 2020 (edited) 10 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said: Who is Bob Gunton? Still not getting you. As to Biblical I was not trying to say knowing the Bible automatically makes one a better person. As a matter of fact one of the most crooked people I ever knew personally went to church every Sunday. I was just saying that the producers of Shawshank wanted Andy's "persecution" to be on par with somebody like John who was imprisoned by the Romans for not renouncing his beliefs. Edited May 29, 2020 by RochesterRob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KD in CA Posted May 29, 2020 Share Posted May 29, 2020 Hiding the rock hammer in the book of Exodus was a nice touch. 6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted May 29, 2020 Share Posted May 29, 2020 12 minutes ago, RochesterRob said: Still not getting you. As to Biblical I was not trying to say knowing the Bible automatically makes one a better person. As a matter of fact one of the most crooked people I ever knew personally went to church every Sunday. I was just saying that the producers of Shawshank wanted Andy's "persecution" to be on par with somebody like John who was imprisoned by the Romans for not renouncing his beliefs. I think you’re getting John mixed up with Marcus Aerilius, father to a murdered son and husband to a murdered wife. He will get his vengeance in this life or next. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UConn James Posted May 29, 2020 Share Posted May 29, 2020 (edited) This is a film dear to my heart, same-name-wise. I chalk it up to Andy being over-exuberant about the news/info. He’s been in there 20 years at that point, yes? Iirc, as soon as Tommy tells him about it, Andy leaves his seat and hauls butt to the warden’s office. He just didn’t stop to consider things. ??♂️ It’s just how Stephen King wrote the original story in “Different Seasons” which was a break from his supernatural horror and on to just regular human horror & evil. Edited May 29, 2020 by UConn James Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seasons1992 Posted May 29, 2020 Share Posted May 29, 2020 2 hours ago, RochesterRob said: I don't understand the Steve Martin reference. You've done nothing wrong, Rob. You've run into Royale in his full glory. It takes a lot to understand his "humor" and "lifestyle." @Royale with Cheese Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-9 Posted May 29, 2020 Share Posted May 29, 2020 3 hours ago, Royale with Cheese said: Who is Bob Gunton? Now you’re just being obtuse. 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted May 29, 2020 Share Posted May 29, 2020 1 minute ago, K-9 said: Now you’re just being obtuse. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted May 29, 2020 Share Posted May 29, 2020 3 hours ago, Irv said: I bet you don’t trust your wife. She’d probably go behind your back. Hamstring you. I do. She wouldn't. Your theory up and vanished...like a fart in the wind. 1 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Hammersticks Posted May 29, 2020 Share Posted May 29, 2020 Get busy livin, or get busy dying ??♂️ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebandit27 Posted May 29, 2020 Share Posted May 29, 2020 Wait, am I misremembering? Didn’t Tommy go to the warden and not Andy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-9 Posted May 29, 2020 Share Posted May 29, 2020 13 minutes ago, thebandit27 said: Wait, am I misremembering? Didn’t Tommy go to the warden and not Andy? Andy went first. Then the warden met with Tommy, questioned him, made sure Tommy’s story was credible, and then had Tommy shot. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snafu Posted May 30, 2020 Share Posted May 30, 2020 Lots of spoilers in here, I wish I hadn’t opened this thread! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jburt2625 Posted May 30, 2020 Share Posted May 30, 2020 ***** now I have the urge to watch it again. Definitely one of my top 10 movies. Great thread IMO 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted May 30, 2020 Share Posted May 30, 2020 2 hours ago, snafu said: Lots of spoilers in here, I wish I hadn’t opened this thread! The ending is insane. Andy finds out the Warden is his father. 1 5 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted May 30, 2020 Share Posted May 30, 2020 7 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said: The ending is insane. Andy finds out the Warden is his father. And that he was dead all along. 1 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KD in CA Posted May 30, 2020 Share Posted May 30, 2020 2 hours ago, snafu said: Lots of spoilers in here, I wish I hadn’t opened this thread! Andy's wife was hot. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-9 Posted May 30, 2020 Share Posted May 30, 2020 2 hours ago, snafu said: Lots of spoilers in here, I wish I hadn’t opened this thread! All I know is, I just miss my friend, Andy. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted May 30, 2020 Share Posted May 30, 2020 40 minutes ago, Doc said: And that he was dead all along. And then he will walk the earth until God puts him where he wants him to be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koko78 Posted May 30, 2020 Share Posted May 30, 2020 9 hours ago, K-9 said: Now you’re just being obtuse. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeF Posted May 30, 2020 Share Posted May 30, 2020 (edited) Favorite Line of the Movie... "What say there fuzzy britches?" Edited May 30, 2020 by JoeF 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted May 30, 2020 Share Posted May 30, 2020 Just now, JoeF said: Favorite Line of the Movie... "What say there fussy britches?" Fuzzy. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeF Posted May 30, 2020 Share Posted May 30, 2020 1 minute ago, Doc said: Fuzzy. Old man hearing....damn -- all these years 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted May 30, 2020 Share Posted May 30, 2020 1 minute ago, JoeF said: Old man hearing....damn -- all these years The first time I saw it I wasn't sure if he said "fussy" or "fuzzy" but she was wearing animal skins so "fuzzy" made sense. But I hear you on the hearing. I watch everything these days with subtitles. My wife likes to watch a lot of British shows and it's essential for them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leh-nerd skin-erd Posted May 30, 2020 Share Posted May 30, 2020 On 5/29/2020 at 6:41 AM, 4merper4mer said: Also, why not enter the sewage line as close as possible to the building's edge. Did he have a desire to crawl through extra poop? I was thinking that the other night. 480 yards of foul smelling stench doesn't sound as bad as 500 yards, and then Red has to say 4.8 football fields, or 4 kickoff returns and one where the return man got it back to the 20. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4merper4mer Posted May 30, 2020 Share Posted May 30, 2020 1 hour ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said: I was thinking that the other night. 480 yards of foul smelling stench doesn't sound as bad as 500 yards, and then Red has to say 4.8 football fields, or 4 kickoff returns and one where the return man got it back to the 20. And the desire to travel through more poop than necessary leads me to believe he was feeling guilty about something and self assigning penance. Maybe he killed his wife after all. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seasons1992 Posted May 30, 2020 Share Posted May 30, 2020 19 hours ago, snafu said: Lots of spoilers in here, I wish I hadn’t opened this thread! There's a hard and fast rule, 26 years and we can spoil it for you. This is on you at this point! 2 hours ago, JoeF said: Favorite Line of the Movie... "What say there fuzzy britches?" 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Jack Posted May 30, 2020 Share Posted May 30, 2020 On 5/29/2020 at 12:49 PM, Royale with Cheese said: People who quote the Bible, like all the time....are always honorable people. Thats why Im a huge Jim Baker fan....he’s the bees knees when it comes to honorable. Steve Martin did a good job playing the Warden huh? Is that a Leap Of Faith reference? Which is a good movie also. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted May 30, 2020 Share Posted May 30, 2020 My favorite line: RED: I have to remind myself that some birds aren't meant to be caged. Their feathers are just too bright. And when they fly away, the part of you that knows it was a sin to lock them up does rejoice. Still, the place you live in is that much more drab and empty that they're gone. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted May 30, 2020 Share Posted May 30, 2020 1 hour ago, Just Jack said: Is that a Leap Of Faith reference? Which is a good movie also. Leap of Faith was great! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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