BillsNutHawaii Posted May 3, 2020 Share Posted May 3, 2020 1 hour ago, Richard Noggin said: Criticizing Brady and Belichick for repeated, documented cheating is NOT some fringe perspective. It is our evidence-based reality. Doesn't make us obsessed or deranged to point that out. I see no reason for a sports fan (or anyone, really) of any allegiance to whitewash history. Using names like “Tommy Boy” and “Belicheat” and “Cheatriots” do not whitewash history and just show contempt....the lingering name calling just seems amateurish to me, over the top and in my opinion diminishes any wrong doing. Even more awkward, some Bills fans (who have absolutely nothing to do with the game on the field) are angrier than the actual Bills players who may have been adversely affected by any so called cheating. Very strange. It’s just football ....I wonder if those individuals who get so upset about football/Patriots (using the name calling with genuine hate and contempt) actually get just as upset when for example their local school district (or any other form of local govt) is underperforming? Now that’s something worth being truly concerned about. Oh, and let me add more fuel to the fire ..... the Patriots weren’t cheating, they were just “FINDING A WAY” 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Noggin Posted May 3, 2020 Share Posted May 3, 2020 3 minutes ago, BillsNutHawaii said: Oh, and let me add more fuel to the fire ..... the Patriots weren’t cheating, they were just “FINDING A WAY” I see what you did there. However, in McDermott's new 2020 mantra, "Find a way," the "within established ethical/legal boundaries" is silent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsNutHawaii Posted May 3, 2020 Share Posted May 3, 2020 5 minutes ago, Richard Noggin said: I see what you did there. However, in McDermott's new 2020 mantra, "Find a way," the "within established ethical/legal boundaries" is silent. You’re assuming ethics are part of the mantra.... and even if you’re right that ethics are part of the HC’s mantra, the players will ultimately play within the rules or not..... it has to trickle down ..... and I’ll add even more fuel now.... I don’t think the Patriots cheated, they pushed the limits but didn’t cheat (that’s my personal assessment) and if Bills fans are going to point fingers at the Patriots, then we need to revisit our own history- Fred Smerlas, Conrad Dobler, and others also pushed the limits and then some. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBills1998 Posted May 3, 2020 Share Posted May 3, 2020 12 hours ago, CapeBreton said: I expect them to run the ball a lot next year, that was the plan the last two seasons too. Yeah looks like he’s going back to his Cleveland game plan when he a had an over the hill QB in Kosar and a draft bust ( at that time) in Testaverde Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Noggin Posted May 3, 2020 Share Posted May 3, 2020 3 minutes ago, BillsNutHawaii said: You’re assuming ethics are part of the mantra.... and even if you’re right that ethics are part of the HC’s mantra, the players will ultimately play within the rules or not..... it has to trickle down ..... and I’ll add even more fuel now.... I don’t think the Patriots cheated, they pushed the limits but didn’t cheat (that’s my personal assessment) and if Bills fans are going to point fingers at the Patriots, then we need to revisit our own history- Fred Smerlas, Conrad Dobler, and others also pushed the limits and then some. They cheated. It's been documented, punished, and covered-up. That's the established science here. Like global warming. It's just a fact. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
batmanfreek Posted May 3, 2020 Share Posted May 3, 2020 Or BB is going to tank for Trevor Lawrence Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsNutHawaii Posted May 3, 2020 Share Posted May 3, 2020 31 minutes ago, Richard Noggin said: They cheated. It's been documented, punished, and covered-up. That's the established science here. Like global warming. It's just a fact. And the schools in your area also seem to be cheating too. Don’t ask me where I get my proof ... it may hurt someone’s feelings. On another note, Kim Jung Un has also said the American student he held captive a few years ago was a spy and he also had proof (about as much as the NFL had) with due process in his court. Does that make KJU right ? Global warming (u bought it up - not me ).... beware, scientists have about as much bias as football fans ... maybe more ..... I studied science and scientists have about as much integrity as your local city prosecutor (it’s all about what they want to find) btw - Donald trump told me there is no such thing global warming ... just kidding (maybe).... ok I added that last part to incite you (sorry). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zerovoltz Posted May 3, 2020 Share Posted May 3, 2020 I am bored at work and saw the thread here about that reporter in Boston proclaiming the Pats would still win the division, the Jets, Bills, and Phins were all inept bla bla bla. It compelled me to give Stidham a deeper look, so I watch all of his preseason work from 2019....these are my thoughts. ****MODS**** if this is deemed to not add anything of value here etc.....feel free to discard etc.....again...I'm bored at work....I did some office chair film review. Here are my thoughts. Right away you notice that Stidham is very good at climbing the pocket...this is one of Tom Bradys hallmarks, and Stidham is feerless in traffic, as he steps straight forward into the middle of relatively small pockets, keeping his eyes downfield and delivering alot of good passes. It's quite impressive. Of note....stidham, when climbing, usually does throw the ball, but when he feels the heat, this is also BY FAR his prefferred escape route....running straight ahead. in all the games he played, each opponent threw a middle blitz right at him, and all 3 of those times he just crumples to the ground.....or has no chance to escape. He's helpless against a free rusher coming up the middle right at him. Stidham, when taking snaps from the gun, does go through his progressions fairly well, but he did tend to hold the ball for a while. In the games I watched, he was mostly playing scrubs....some of the better pass rushers in the leauge are going to get to this guy when he doens't make up his mind quickly to throw. When stidham is flushed and tries to throw, he doesn't have the arm to get mustard on his passes....especially rolling to his left....throwing on the move to his left, he throws a VERY weak ball, and it isn't much better rolling right. He doesn't have the speed to create enough space to stop and reset once he starts to roll...so getting him moving out of hte pocket is advantage defense. It's also very apparent in every game, ANYTIME Stidham ran play action, once he turns back around after the fake handoff, he is QUICK to throw...he already has in mind where the open man should be and often is correct and wastes no time at all getting the ball out...often to an open target. Its a sharp contrast watching how quick stidham gets the ball out on play action vs just taking a shotgun snap and standing around scanning the field and taking his time. Given time in the pocket...or even when he is compelled to climb the pocket and throw, stidham was good at recognizing man coverage on the outside and throwing to that target. He rarely chose outside targets who were doubled up. He did go to some tightly covered targets in the middle of the field but had success on alot of that as he does well stepping into those throws as he is climbing up in the pocket and is able to get enough zip on the ball to get it through those tight windows. In general Stidham had good pocket pressence and was good about feeling the pressure coming....but he lacks the athleticsm to do much about it once the rush hits home...even when he makes the effort to escape or sidestep, he's slow....and throwing under durress reveals the weakness of his arm when he can't step into the throw and drive the ball. Only in the FINAL preseason game did i note ONE anticipation throw....a 7 yard out that he began the windup before the target made the cut. It was the only one I saw....could be due to playing with the scrubs... Not the most graceful screen thrower...seems rushed and antsy trying to execute those. Overall....I can see why Belichick might feel good enough to give this kid a real chance in 2020....I would want to see more work on timing routes with the 1's before I'd feel real good about this kid, but he seems capable and well suited to run the Patriot short passing game they prefer along with his fast execution of playaction...and they might just have something viable there. You run some double tights and pound the rock setting up playaction.....I can see it working out. Need to see A LOT more in the timing/anticipation area. 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChans Posted May 3, 2020 Share Posted May 3, 2020 Bills fans in March - “the division is ours, Brady is gone!” Bills fans in May - “man, anyone watched this Jarrett Stidham guy before??” The fear is palpable. 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kmart128 Posted May 3, 2020 Share Posted May 3, 2020 Guy is so overrated. He was crap in college. Every year his completion percentage dropped considerably. His yard an attempt dropped. He never had more than 18 TDs passing. His average passing yards a game dropped considerably from sophmore to junior. He has always just been potential and has gotten worse every single year. Didnt like him coming out of college and still dont. If i was Patriots i would prefer Fromm over Stidham. Oh and Brady backups almost always fail. Mallett, Hoyer, Cassell, Brissett... list goes on and on. Patriots are famous for trading crappy QBs for draft picks just because teams think they are good cause they learned from Brady. Only QB with any success was Jimmy G. And honestly if that defense and running game wasnt so good im not sure he would have success either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teddy KGB Posted May 3, 2020 Share Posted May 3, 2020 He stinks. Who cares about the pats anymore. The man has left that building. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CSBill Posted May 3, 2020 Share Posted May 3, 2020 Well, he does have the Witch Doctor as a Coach, that is the bigger concern. Also, while I have no evidence to back this up, I think Cam Newton ends up in NE some time before September. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted May 3, 2020 Share Posted May 3, 2020 2 hours ago, FireChans said: Bills fans in March - “the division is ours, Brady is gone!” Bills fans in May - “man, anyone watched this Jarrett Stidham guy before??” The fear is palpable. Fear. LOL! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cripple Creek Posted May 3, 2020 Share Posted May 3, 2020 2 hours ago, FireChans said: Bills fans in March - “the division is ours, Brady is gone!” Bills fans in May - “man, anyone watched this Jarrett Stidham guy before??” The fear is palpable. Good morning Sunshine! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted May 3, 2020 Share Posted May 3, 2020 Does zero know that zero has gone full third person? 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troll Toll Posted May 3, 2020 Share Posted May 3, 2020 Early in Brady’s career he was basically a game manager playing with a great defense and running game. I think the question it boils down to is: Is that enough to win Super Bowls in today’s NFL? They have pretty much transformed back into that team from 2001-2003. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hardhatharry Posted May 3, 2020 Share Posted May 3, 2020 All that for some QB who will suck... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted May 3, 2020 Share Posted May 3, 2020 7 hours ago, BillsMafia13 said: This has me terrified he’s gonna trade for Dak or Stafford or rodgers or something. I know the cap doesn’t help but I don’t like it They can’t afford them. And I doubt Belicheat wants to pay Dak $40M/year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted May 3, 2020 Share Posted May 3, 2020 6 hours ago, batmanfreek said: Or BB is going to tank for Trevor Lawrence No way. That gives Brady most of the credit for the Cheaters' success. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4BillsintheBurgh Posted May 3, 2020 Share Posted May 3, 2020 1 hour ago, Troll Toll said: Early in Brady’s career he was basically a game manager playing with a great defense and running game. I think the question it boils down to is: Is that enough to win Super Bowls in today’s NFL? They have pretty much transformed back into that team from 2001-2003. Agree, although seems like Hoyer will start the year. Either way looks like a lot of running the ball for them. Their qb situation reminds me of Kolb and ej, anyone with boots on the ground able to lay some strategic mats when training camp starts? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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