Shaw66 Posted April 13, 2020 Share Posted April 13, 2020 3 hours ago, GunnerBill said: To say he can be better than Big Ben is a big call. I am not willing to go that far. I don't know that he will be, but he can be. He's one of the most physically gifted qbs I've seen. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lieutenant Aldo Raine Posted April 13, 2020 Share Posted April 13, 2020 4 hours ago, C.Biscuit97 said: I think it’s more evidence of his not being the most accurate passer. And it was in the MWC not the SEC. I just don’t why some of you are so quick to dismiss all the statistics that show he isn’t the most accurate passer. I would love to see this board would judge him and Darnold if they switched teams. So what you’re saying about him on the Bills board is “nice” compared to if he wasn’t. So then tell us what you really think because obviously you haven’t been fully honest (which some of us already knew anyway). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted April 13, 2020 Share Posted April 13, 2020 3 hours ago, Shaw66 said: I don't know that he will be, but he can be. He's one of the most physically gifted qbs I've seen. Still too rich for me at this stage. Before I say he can be better than a sure fire first ballot hall of famer I still need to see more evidence on the field. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigBillsFan Posted April 13, 2020 Share Posted April 13, 2020 (edited) 12 hours ago, C.Biscuit97 said: I think it’s more evidence of his not being the most accurate passer. And it was in the MWC not the SEC. I just don’t why some of you are so quick to dismiss all the statistics that show he isn’t the most accurate passer. I would love to see this board would judge him and Darnold if they switched teams. Because in the absence of facts and history they can only use ridicule. No one is saying Allen can't improve, but you are right there are historical elements which point to issues. Fixable? Let's find out. I think a lot can be fixed if you make him a 2 read QB so his mechanics are simplified for 2 throws per snap. My reasoning is simple: his athleticism would make it so he's more of a runner and uses that dimension to force a spy on him and with the right running game the field opens up like it does for Jackson. He's not Jackson, but he has the same benefits he could utilize. I think his last game in 2018 in Miami was the perfect combo for him. Edited April 13, 2020 by BigBillsFan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay_Fixit Posted April 13, 2020 Share Posted April 13, 2020 On 4/10/2020 at 10:32 PM, Bangarang said: Cian Fahey is literally the last person I would listen to when it comes to any kind of player evaluation. He’s simply the worst. If he could block you on here he would. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted April 13, 2020 Share Posted April 13, 2020 2 minutes ago, Jay_Fixit said: If he could block you on here he would. How's it feel knowing that I have a better arm than you....both with the football and baseball? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T master Posted April 13, 2020 Share Posted April 13, 2020 WOW !! Diggs ain't gonna help that any he's gonna have to have 1 hell of a catch radius to help Josh on some of those throws !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted April 13, 2020 Share Posted April 13, 2020 I watched the whole season, i don't need to re-watch a worst of compilation. Here's my thoughts on causes He widens his base sometimes (especially on touch throws) and balls sail. Just an uncomfortable way of throwing, and some of those little flare and swing passes to TEs and RBs have been out of reach. Timing on deep balls is an issue as he always seemed to hesitate a little at the last second. I also watched something that indicated that he was tilting his shoulders on throws which would cause trajectory issues. Timing is also an issue on short stuff, he'll whip it over on the hitch and the balls not where it needs to be. Usually its low or out of bounds - like him and the receiver had a different thought on the leverage. He also has shown slower eyes on stuff over the middle and either pats the ball or hesitates and then tries to rifle it into a small window. These will also be short sometimes. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JESSEFEFFER Posted April 18, 2020 Author Share Posted April 18, 2020 At 1:49 Cody loses leverage and is waltzed backward to step on Josh's plant foot. Errant due to inaccuracy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JESSEFEFFER Posted April 18, 2020 Author Share Posted April 18, 2020 (edited) At :25 seconds arms of Chad Thomas #92 (I think) and Josh Allen have a meeting. Evidence of bad Josh accuracy? Edited April 18, 2020 by JESSEFEFFER Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheyCallMeAndy Posted April 18, 2020 Share Posted April 18, 2020 You could make this video for every single QB in the NFL. Brady had plenty, and I mean plenty, of "bad throws" this year. He didn't have 30 dropped passes either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JESSEFEFFER Posted April 18, 2020 Author Share Posted April 18, 2020 Someone compiled this video as evidence of how horribly inaccurate Josh is. Many of these are not what he said they are. 16 minutes ago, TheyCallMeAndy said: You could make this video for every single QB in the NFL. Brady had plenty, and I mean plenty, of "bad throws" this year. He didn't have 30 dropped passes either. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted April 18, 2020 Share Posted April 18, 2020 Several of those were passes that were on-target but defensed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheyCallMeAndy Posted April 18, 2020 Share Posted April 18, 2020 5 minutes ago, JESSEFEFFER said: Someone compiled this video as evidence of how horribly inaccurate Josh is. Many of these are not what he said they are. Just a moron pushing an agenda. Allen put some passes on the money this year. Pro football reference counted 36 dropped passes in total. Insane. Knox had 10, Cole 5, Brown 4, Singletary 6. Just to name a few. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted April 18, 2020 Share Posted April 18, 2020 Looks like someone needs a real hobby during the lockdown Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JESSEFEFFER Posted April 18, 2020 Author Share Posted April 18, 2020 29 minutes ago, SlimShady'sSpaceForce said: Looks like someone needs a real hobby during the lockdown Other than wasting time here? What's your real hobby? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JESSEFEFFER Posted April 18, 2020 Author Share Posted April 18, 2020 34 minutes ago, TheyCallMeAndy said: Just a moron pushing an agenda. Allen put some passes on the money this year. Pro football reference counted 36 dropped passes in total. Insane. Knox had 10, Cole 5, Brown 4, Singletary 6. Just to name a few. This person makes a statement that, for the second year in a row, Josh Allen is the least accurate QB in the NFL and its not close. Then, in a supposed attempt to bolster his conclusion, he posts a hand picked (?) compilation of horribly errant Josh throws. And when you watch them they might seem to be as he claimed and as some here in this thread agreed. But, if you look closer at them, many are like these two above. Cian Fahey is less accurate than Josh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billl Posted April 18, 2020 Share Posted April 18, 2020 2 hours ago, JESSEFEFFER said: At 1:49 Cody loses leverage and is waltzed backward to step on Josh's plant foot. Errant due to inaccuracy? So we should chalk that one up to poor protection? OL let him down? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beerme1 Posted April 18, 2020 Share Posted April 18, 2020 I'm not going through all the pages on this thread but just want to say the op showed only bad. Josh is good. Mojo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JESSEFEFFER Posted April 18, 2020 Author Share Posted April 18, 2020 (edited) 4 hours ago, Billl said: So we should chalk that one up to poor protection? OL let him down? Good question. Cody's footwork is terrible on the play. After the initial punch by the defender, Cody is knocked off balance, looses leverage and is bullrushed right into Josh. The red shoes really help to highlight their placement. At one point they are both at hash mark, perpendicular to the line of scrimmage. That is a losing position and he never anchors. Why all this happened I dont know. Ford is a rookie? Ford is not a RT? The defender made a nice play? Maybe the result an illegal headslap? I can't tell on my phone"s screen. Anyways, the only thing that slows the rush is when Cody collides with Josh. Edited April 18, 2020 by JESSEFEFFER Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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