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Here's the HCQ white paper from the front line doctors summit. 

 

https://americasfrontlinedoctorsummit.com/references/

 

One of the docs was just on Tucker Carlson, a board certified 20 year plus ER doc. She's of course been fired due to the viral video.....and she's hired attorney Lin Wood.

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6 hours ago, Gene Frenkle said:

 

Thoughts?  It has dangerous side effects, doesn't work and people are taking it politically.  Good move.

 

Now how an actual scientist or doctor would answer.

 

HCQ been used for decades with no dangerous side effects. For covid-19, its efficacy is still unclear, although there is data suggesting that when taken early enough in conjunction with zinc that patient outcomes are improved. This action taken by the Ohio board of pharmacists is at best premature and ill advised, and at worst politically motivated and removes a potentially life saving treatment option for patients..

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10 minutes ago, BillsFanNC said:

Now how an actual scientist or doctor would answer.

 

HCQ been used for decades with no dangerous side effects. For covid-19, its efficacy is still unclear, although there is data suggesting that when taken early enough in conjunction with zinc that patient outcomes are improved. This action taken by the Ohio board of pharmacists is at best premature and ill advised, and at worst politically motivated and removes a potentially life saving treatment option for patients..

 

Don't waste your time.  Either they know and don't care that HCQ has been around for decades and never was considered dangerous...until now, or they can't get it through their skulls.  Neither of which is a good look for them.  

 

7 minutes ago, SlimShady'sSpaceForce said:

Like the Trump collective?   

 

OH has banned the sale of Don's Snake oil (unless it is for malaria) 

 

Thank goodness they're saving OH from all that malaria!  But why are they still allowing it to be used at all if it's so dangerous?  

 

Always good to talk to the TDS'ers.

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There are tons of these studies that show that it helps with the right combination and stages of sickness of the Virus. And many that show it doesn’t work.
 

Definitely enough to clearly suggest that it’s not conclusive one way or the other  
 

This is another new study

 

 

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It truly does amaze me how far the NPCs ignorance will go. 
 

to dismiss even the potential benefits of a therapeutic is just astonishing to me. Dismiss it right out of hand. It makes no sense. 
 

you’ve got Tibs citing studies that have been retracted, you got Shady pretending he’s a doctor, and god knows what Billstime is doing in between eating paint chips and playing blocks. 

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2 hours ago, Doc said:

 

Thank goodness they're saving OH from all that malaria!  But why are they still allowing it to be used at all if it's so dangerous?  

 

Always good to talk to the TDS'ers.

 

For an anesthesiologist --   you seem unaware that that drug can cause death. 

 

It's a FAKE cure.

 

What do they call them again placebos?     Oh wait placebos are supposed to be harmless.

 

So which line are you on Alien DNA or Demon sperm?  

 

 

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1 hour ago, SlimShady'sSpaceForce said:

For an anesthesiologist --   you seem unaware that that drug can cause death. 

 

It's a FAKE cure.

 

What do they call them again placebos?     Oh wait placebos are supposed to be harmless.

 

So which line are you on Alien DNA or Demon sperm?  

 

Yes, so can Tylenol (acetaminophen).  What's your point?  That incredibly rare instances of death...when the/a drug is used properly...mean it shouldn't be used at all?  If that's the case, why are hundreds of millions of people on HCQ daily for one disease or another?  When/why did it suddenly become so dangerous and why hasn't it been pulled from the shelves?  You know the answer.      

 

As for the last line, do you believe in God?

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9 hours ago, SlimShady'sSpaceForce said:

 

For an anesthesiologist --   you seem unaware that that drug can cause death. 

 

It's a FAKE cure.

 

What do they call them again placebos?     Oh wait placebos are supposed to be harmless.

 

So which line are you on Alien DNA or Demon sperm?  

 

 

What are you worried about?  Nobody will force you to take it.  Put your mask on and cross your fingers.

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Huge Development: 51 Global Studies Find HCQ Effective in Treating COVID-19 — 16 Find HCQ Not Effective — But 10 of Those Are Late Treatment Studies!

by Jim Hoft

 

Original Article

 

How many tens of thousands of Americans must die because of Dr. Fauci’s mistakes? It is becoming more and more apparent with each new day and as more information is accumulated that Dr. Fauci and Dr. Birx, the CDC and the FDA failed in their response to the China Coronavirus. Dr. Fauci and Dr. Birx pushed a completely fraudulent Imperial College study to lockdown and destroy the greatest economy in US history. Dr. Anthony Fauci has made at least 15 critical mistakes and contradictions since the start of the pandemic in March. Perhaps Dr. Fauci’s most deadly mistake is his response to hydroxychloroquine (HCQ) treatments for the disease.

 

 

 

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1 minute ago, B-Man said:

Huge Development: 51 Global Studies Find HCQ Effective in Treating COVID-19 — 16 Find HCQ Not Effective — But 10 of Those Are Late Treatment Studies!

by Jim Hoft

 

Original Article

 

How many tens of thousands of Americans must die because of Dr. Fauci’s mistakes? It is becoming more and more apparent with each new day and as more information is accumulated that Dr. Fauci and Dr. Birx, the CDC and the FDA failed in their response to the China Coronavirus. Dr. Fauci and Dr. Birx pushed a completely fraudulent Imperial College study to lockdown and destroy the greatest economy in US history. Dr. Anthony Fauci has made at least 15 critical mistakes and contradictions since the start of the pandemic in March. Perhaps Dr. Fauci’s most deadly mistake is his response to hydroxychloroquine (HCQ) treatments for the disease.

 

You don't say...

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On 7/31/2020 at 10:35 AM, Doc said:

 

Yes, so can Tylenol (acetaminophen).  What's your point?  That incredibly rare instances of death...when the/a drug is used properly...mean it shouldn't be used at all?  If that's the case, why are hundreds of millions of people on HCQ daily for one disease or another?  When/why did it suddenly become so dangerous and why hasn't it been pulled from the shelves?  You know the answer.      

 

As for the last line, do you believe in God?


I’ve taken malaria medicine when I went to Africa and India. 
 

for a specific reason not to mention the other host of preventative meds

 

You stick with the Snake Oil Salesmen. 
 

me I will be responsible and respectful of other people’s right to live a healthy life 

 

Talk about death panels. 
 

hypocrites 

Oops I meant 

The Hippocratic Oath is an oath of ethics historically taken by physicians. It is one of the most widely known of Greek medical texts. In its original form, it requires a new physician to swear, by a number of healing gods, to uphold specific ethical standards.

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On 7/31/2020 at 9:58 AM, SlimShady'sSpaceForce said:

 

For an anesthesiologist --   you seem unaware that that drug can cause death. 

 

It's a FAKE cure.

 

What do they call them again placebos?     Oh wait placebos are supposed to be harmless.

 

So which line are you on Alien DNA or Demon sperm?  

 

 

 

 

....oh boy....Dr Ruth pontificates.....ANY OTHER President advocating hydro would get high marks......but Trump did so and it's an epic fail......SMH......another gem offering.....shades of BBMB........

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2 hours ago, SlimShady'sSpaceForce said:

I’ve taken malaria medicine when I went to Africa and India. 
 

for a specific reason not to mention the other host of preventative meds

 

You stick with the Snake Oil Salesmen. 
 

me I will be responsible and respectful of other people’s right to live a healthy life 

 

Talk about death panels. 
 

hypocrites 

Oops I meant 

The Hippocratic Oath is an oath of ethics historically taken by physicians. It is one of the most widely known of Greek medical texts. In its original form, it requires a new physician to swear, by a number of healing gods, to uphold specific ethical standards.

 

Stick with what you know, whatever that may be.  It's not medicine.

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And again, as a PSA to everyone on this board, ask your doctors if they would prescribe HCQ (if they could) if you got COVID.  If they say "it's snake oil" or something similar, go to another doctor.  They don't have your best interest at heart.

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5 hours ago, Doc said:

And again, as a PSA to everyone on this board, ask your doctors if they would prescribe HCQ (if they could) if you got COVID.  If they say "it's snake oil" or something similar, go to another doctor.  They don't have your best interest at heart.

I usually ask my doctors if they base their medical decisions on what a game show host says on twitter.

 

Hydroxychloroquine flunks Phase III trial in mild-to-moderate Covid-19

The study adds to the growing body of evidence that the drug, promoted early in the pandemic by President Trump, is ineffective, despite its getting a briefly renewed lease on life earlier this month thanks to a retrospective analysis.


https://medcitynews.com/2020/07/hydroxychloroquine-flunks-phase-iii-trial-in-mild-to-moderate-covid-19/

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9 hours ago, B-Man said:

Huge Development: 51 Global Studies Find HCQ Effective in Treating COVID-19 — 16 Find HCQ Not Effective — But 10 of Those Are Late Treatment Studies!

by Jim Hoft

 

Original Article

 

How many tens of thousands of Americans must die because of Dr. Fauci’s mistakes? It is becoming more and more apparent with each new day and as more information is accumulated that Dr. Fauci and Dr. Birx, the CDC and the FDA failed in their response to the China Coronavirus. Dr. Fauci and Dr. Birx pushed a completely fraudulent Imperial College study to lockdown and destroy the greatest economy in US history. Dr. Anthony Fauci has made at least 15 critical mistakes and contradictions since the start of the pandemic in March. Perhaps Dr. Fauci’s most deadly mistake is his response to hydroxychloroquine (HCQ) treatments for the disease.

 

 

 

 

34 minutes ago, BullBuchanan said:

I usually ask my doctors if they base their medical decisions on what a game show host says on twitter.

 

Hydroxychloroquine flunks Phase III trial in mild-to-moderate Covid-19

The study adds to the growing body of evidence that the drug, promoted early in the pandemic by President Trump, is ineffective, despite its getting a briefly renewed lease on life earlier this month thanks to a retrospective analysis.


https://medcitynews.com/2020/07/hydroxychloroquine-flunks-phase-iii-trial-in-mild-to-moderate-covid-19/

Anyone can pick and chose on the internet and find stuff to support their bias. But what's more telling is you never looked at the post a little above yours by @B-Man, and now copied here just for you, that shows overwhelmingly that HCQ works

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3 minutes ago, Cinga said:

 

Anyone can pick and chose on the internet and find stuff to support their bias. But what's more telling is you never looked at the post a little above yours, and now copied here just for you, that shows overwhelmingly that HCQ works

Promising start to this "truthful" website
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Aaaand I'm done. What a load of propaganda
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It's good to know I can still count on people who parade "the truth" to be falling off the right side of the political bias scale

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8 minutes ago, BullBuchanan said:

Promising start to this "truthful" website
image.thumb.png.895fbbdb7045b15d5f3a3f41c83a9ee5.png

Aaaand I'm done. What a load of propaganda
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It's good to know I can still count on people who parade "the truth" to be falling off the right side of the political bias scale

 

3 minutes ago, BullBuchanan said:

Then link the studies and keep your far right propaganda out of it.

 

 

Edify yourself, it might help your own bias

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1 hour ago, BullBuchanan said:

Then link the studies and keep your far right propaganda out of it.

Why do politics need to be brought into a medical discussion?

 

What's up with that avatar? Makes a person think that you have a problem with our country.

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12 minutes ago, 3rdnlng said:

Why do politics need to be brought into a medical discussion?

 

What's up with that avatar? Makes a person think that you have a problem with our country.

Ask the website who makes claims about the Russia-Collusion hoax in its header.

 

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