B-Man Posted May 19, 2020 Share Posted May 19, 2020 #JOURNALISM: 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Miner Posted May 19, 2020 Share Posted May 19, 2020 Just now, B-Man said: #JOURNALISM: When did CNN get talent? 1 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Koko78 Posted May 19, 2020 Share Posted May 19, 2020 12 minutes ago, Tiberius said: The comments are great. Liberals are all now medical experts. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted May 19, 2020 Share Posted May 19, 2020 Just now, Koko78 said: The comments are great. Liberals are all now medical experts. And it's hilarious after decades of railing against big pharma for being "greedy", they're embracing the narrative pushed by big pharma shills (which Neil is) designed to move focus off the cheapest drug on the market and towards the more profitable (and still unproven) vaccines. TDS is a fatal syndrome if left untreated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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meazza Posted May 19, 2020 Share Posted May 19, 2020 14 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said: And it's hilarious after decades of railing against big pharma for being "greedy", they're embracing the narrative pushed by big pharma shills (which Neil is) designed to move focus off the cheapest drug on the market and towards the more profitable (and still unproven) vaccines. TDS is a fatal syndrome if left untreated. If HCQ was so effective, then France and Italy would be using it exclusively. I'm sure it has some benefit in certain cicrumstances but to label this a conspiracy is why I can't take any of these discussions seriously. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted May 19, 2020 Share Posted May 19, 2020 Just now, meazza said: If HCQ was so effective, then France and Italy would be using it exclusively. I'm sure it has some benefit in certain cicrumstances but to label this a conspiracy is why I can't take any of these discussions seriously. If it wasn't so effective, why would nations be buying it up by the pallet? Why are front line workers taking it in droves, not just here but across the globe? My sibling, who's a first responder, has been on it (mandated by his boss) since February and has been free and clear of it despite working with patients everyday. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warren Zevon Posted May 19, 2020 Share Posted May 19, 2020 Just now, Deranged Rhino said: Why are front line workers taking it in droves Cite this or bite dust, cockroach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted May 19, 2020 Share Posted May 19, 2020 (edited) https://aapsonline.org/hcq-90-percent-chance/] As the letter to Gov. Ducey notes, “Many nations, including Turkey and India, are protecting medical workers and contacts of infected persons prophylactically. According to worldometers.info, deaths per million persons from COVID-19 as of Apr 27 are 167 in the U.S., 33 in Turkey, and 0.6 in India.” Edited May 19, 2020 by Deranged Rhino Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meazza Posted May 19, 2020 Share Posted May 19, 2020 Just now, Deranged Rhino said: If it wasn't so effective, why would nations be buying it up by the pallet? Why are front line workers taking it in droves, not just here but across the globe? My sibling, who's a first responder, has been on it (mandated by his boss) since February and has been free and clear of it despite working with patients everyday. As I said, it might have some benefits but has been shown not to in later stages of the infection. They have also been buying it up by the pallet because if it does turn out to work, then just as any other medication, they want to be ready to distribute it. New York has been giving HCQ for a while and yet people are still dying so perhaps, it's correlction rather than causation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plenzmd1 Posted May 19, 2020 Share Posted May 19, 2020 19 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said: And it's hilarious after decades of railing against big pharma for being "greedy", they're embracing the narrative pushed by big pharma shills (which Neil is) designed to move focus off the cheapest drug on the market and towards the more profitable (and still unproven) vaccines. TDS is a fatal syndrome if left untreated. Te be fair, a therapeutic and a vaccine two completely different things. And Gilead has given away over 1.5 million doses or Remisvider...i know, i am a stock holder and not exactly happy with that decsion. 2 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said: If it wasn't so effective, why would nations be buying it up by the pallet? Why are front line workers taking it in droves, not just here but across the globe? My sibling, who's a first responder, has been on it (mandated by his boss) since February and has been free and clear of it despite working with patients everyday. i have not seen that anywhere Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted May 19, 2020 Share Posted May 19, 2020 Just now, meazza said: As I said, it might have some benefits but has been shown not to in later stages of the infection. They have also been buying it up by the pallet because if it does turn out to work, then just as any other medication, they want to be ready to distribute it. New York has been giving HCQ for a while and yet people are still dying so perhaps, it's correlction rather than causation. Think it through... If it works as a preventative, then the bolded is moot. More than the bolded, the entire lock down ceases to be needed. Think of who's benefiting from this lock down, and their track record of honesty with the American people. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meazza Posted May 19, 2020 Share Posted May 19, 2020 Just now, Deranged Rhino said: As the letter to Gov. Ducey notes, “Many nations, including Turkey and India, are protecting medical workers and contacts of infected persons prophylactically. According to worldometers.info, deaths per million persons from COVID-19 as of Apr 27 are 167 in the U.S., 33 in Turkey, and 0.6 in India.” Not sure about Turkey but India has extremely hot and humid weather which has shown to reduce the spread of the virus. Let's be real here. The parts of the world that have been badly hit all have colder weather. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orlando Tim Posted May 19, 2020 Share Posted May 19, 2020 34 minutes ago, Tiberius said: Isn't HCQ a prescription medication? If your doctor gives it to you to take then use it, but do not get your medical advice from Neil Cavuto. I like Neil normally but he is being dramatic. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meazza Posted May 19, 2020 Share Posted May 19, 2020 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said: Think it through... If it works as a preventative, then the bolded is moot. More than the bolded, the entire lock down ceases to be needed. Think of who's benefiting from this lock down, and their track record of honesty with the American people. Have you ever taken HCQ? I have plenty of African friends who took the drug for preventative treatment with malaria in their youth and yet most developed countries suggest the malaria vaccination as HCQ is extremely painful to take that it is practically a form of child abuse. Edited May 19, 2020 by meazza Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted May 19, 2020 Share Posted May 19, 2020 Just now, meazza said: Not sure about Turkey but India has extremely hot and humid weather which has shown to reduce the spread of the virus. Let's be real here. The parts of the world that have been badly hit all have colder weather. It's hard to see why they'd lie about this, I get it. My sibling works between Flagstaff and Phoenix, in the mountains largely with the tribal populations (who have been hit hard). It's not hot there in the winter. He's been on it since February, as has his whole staff, and they've had 0 infections. That's anecdotal, I grant you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orlando Tim Posted May 19, 2020 Share Posted May 19, 2020 1 hour ago, Tiberius said: Trump was probably lying about taking the drug. We will never hear from the supposed doctor that said he could take it. Liar Tibs please listen to your doctor about prescription meds- if you are getting your meds based on politicians advice I think I might have pinpointed your real problem. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meazza Posted May 19, 2020 Share Posted May 19, 2020 Just now, Deranged Rhino said: It's hard to see why they'd lie about this, I get it. My sibling works between Flagstaff and Phoenix, in the mountains largely with the tribal populations (who have been hit hard). It's not hot there in the winter. He's been on it since February, as has his whole staff, and they've had 0 infections. Even if this is true and I'm not completely discounting it, it is a medication that can have some side effects, specifically to those that have heart issues which are most likely the people to have issues with COVID 19. It still hasn't been shown in clinical trials to help in later stages so other therapeutics and a vaccine are necessary at really combating this virus. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted May 19, 2020 Share Posted May 19, 2020 1 minute ago, meazza said: Even if this is true and I'm not completely discounting it, it is a medication that can have some side effects, specifically to those that have heart issues which are most likely the people to have issues with COVID 19. It still hasn't been shown in clinical trials to help in later stages so other therapeutics and a vaccine are necessary at really combating this virus. I'm not advocating stopping research on other methods. But what HCQ does is allow the world to open, safely, while those better treatments are developed. If HCQ is as effective as it appears, there would not have been a need for a lock down in the first place. Hence why the media MUST lie about it now. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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