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Using the tag on QB Dak Prescott could end up being the worst move for the Cowboys

 

That’s what makes his contract situation surprising to me. When a franchise LOVES a quarterback, it makes a deal happen. The Cowboys have clearly set their price and years on a contract and have not budged. Prescott’s camp has their number in mind and they aren’t moving either. We have a good old-fashioned contract standoff, with neither side “winning” at the moment.

 

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you can't just keep giving the qb's the new higher and biggest deal. dak isn't the best in the game so shouldn't be paid as much. 

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4 minutes ago, aristocrat said:

you can't just keep giving the qb's the new higher and biggest deal. dak isn't the best in the game so shouldn't be paid as much. 

You only need to be the best in free agency that year.  Big $$$$ coming his way

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I'm more than happy to watch Jerrah overpay this guy.  Dak's OK but I don't see him as a championship QB.  

 

Anyone think that he'll really get any better than he already is?  

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Lots of options at QB this year.

 

Teddy did a decent job in relief at NOLA.

 

Cowgirls could have a cheaper option available. 

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Dak's a quality QB, but not upper echelon. I have many friends that are Cowboys fans. The knock on him according to those friends is missing the open man on the intermediate to deep throws, especially in crunch time, and seemingly disappearing when the team needs him to throw them on his back. He's not a bad QB, but he's not a $35,000,000-$40,000,000 a year QB either. 

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He was underpaid for 4 years this is where he makes up for that. 

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If there’s one QB in the league that I’d love to see a lot more of before forming my full opinion on, its Dak.  His stats and advanced metrics are elite, but I’ve seen a notch below that on the rare instances I’ve seen him play.  I’d wager that’s the difference between the two sides now.  Also there is plenty of time on the clock for negotiation so neither side has to make a move yet.  This will drag out.

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12 minutes ago, ALF said:

He was under payed for 4 years this is where he makes up for that. 


It’s not like Dallas couldn’t have gotten a discount last year.  Now it’s pay market value (or very close to it) or tag him and go down that road. 

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11 minutes ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said:

Kirk cousins is a great comparison for Dak. Almost literally the same guy. 
 

great passer rating. Not a clutch winner. 

 

 

I'd take Cousins in a micro-second.

 

His playoff losses absolutely have not been mostly his fault. He's not a top five guy and looks like he never will be, but he's better than Dak.

 

I'm so happy that the Bills don't have to deal with the Prescott situation. He clearly isn't a $35M guy, but at the same time, Dallas can't let him go, and he looks like he's not coming for less. I think they end up paying him too much. Couldn't happen to a nicer team and owner.

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If I'm Jerry & Dak's holding out for $40m/yr, I'd be inclined to let him walk, draft his replacement, and sign a veteran stopgap. Brady, Brees, Bridgewater, Rivers, & Winston are all free agents, and I'd feel pretty good about my chances of getting one of them for a hell of a lot less than $40m, and feel just as good, if not better, about my chances this year.

 

Dak's Scottie Pippin demanding to be paid like he's Michael Jordan.

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22 minutes ago, Thurman#1 said:

 

 

I'd take Cousins in a micro-second.

 

His playoff losses absolutely have not been mostly his fault. He's not a top five guy and looks like he never will be, but he's better than Dak.

 

I'm so happy that the Bills don't have to deal with the Prescott situation. He clearly isn't a $35M guy, but at the same time, Dallas can't let him go, and he looks like he's not coming for less. I think they end up paying him too much. Couldn't happen to a nicer team and owner.

 

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58 minutes ago, aristocrat said:

you can't just keep giving the qb's the new higher and biggest deal. dak isn't the best in the game so shouldn't be paid as much. 

 

It's all about the market.  Supply and demand.

Your value isn't related solely to how you rank against your peers, but what teams are willing to pay you.

 

Everyone knows you can't win without a QB.  And think about how many teams are unsettled at the QB position going into the offseason.

By my count, about 13 teams (just over 40 percent of the teams in the league) can't be 100% sure who will be under center next season.

 

If Dallas is unwilling to pay Prescott, I could definitely see Miami, Indianapolis, Las Vegas, Los Angeles (Chargers), Chicago, Carolina or Tampa Bay being willing to do it.  Depending on how negotiations work out with their free agents, New England and Tennessee could jump into that market.  New Orleans could be in the market if Drew Brees retires.  Pittsburgh must be contemplating life without Big Ben.  Jacksonville would probably be interested if they didn't already have that terrible Nick Foles contract on the books.  And it's not totally unfathomable that Cincinnati could throw money at Prescott, and then mortgage the #1 Pick (especially if Joe Burrow is balking at playing for them). 

 

 

 

 

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29 minutes ago, Thurman#1 said:

I'd take Cousins in a micro-second.

 

His playoff losses absolutely have not been mostly his fault. He's not a top five guy and looks like he never will be, but he's better than Dak.

 

I'm so happy that the Bills don't have to deal with the Prescott situation. He clearly isn't a $35M guy, but at the same time, Dallas can't let him go, and he looks like he's not coming for less. I think they end up paying him too much. Couldn't happen to a nicer team and owner.

 

My definition of "Franchise QB" is a guy who can put lesser talent on his back, and pretty much carry the team by himself.

 

The nightmare situation for every GM is having a guy who wants a long-term/$30-35 million per year contract, but isn't clearly at the "Franchise" level.

 

Cousins is the very definition of borderline.  Prescott is just a notch below him, but may still have room for improvement.

I also wouldn't want to be making the call on Ryan Tannehill (fluke season?) or Jameis Winston (can be elite if he cuts down turnovers).

 

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After a bit of thought on this matter, I can only hope that the cowboys absolutely Fuh K this situation up as much as humanly possible, but that’s just me I guess...

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1 hour ago, mushypeaches said:

I'm more than happy to watch Jerrah overpay this guy.  Dak's OK but I don't see him as a championship QB.  

 

Anyone think that he'll really get any better than he already is?  

Do you think Allen is championship caliber?  Jimmy G almost won the SB.  
 

I don’t see Dak as elite but people go to far to bash him.  He is 40-24, completed nearly 66% of his passes, 97 td to 36 int, a 97 qb rating, along with 21 rushing tds.  We would be over the moon if Allen has a start like that to his career.  

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1 hour ago, Thurman#1 said:

 

 

I'd take Cousins in a micro-second.

 

His playoff losses absolutely have not been mostly his fault. He's not a top five guy and looks like he never will be, but he's better than Dak.

 

I'm so happy that the Bills don't have to deal with the Prescott situation. He clearly isn't a $35M guy, but at the same time, Dallas can't let him go, and he looks like he's not coming for less. I think they end up paying him too much. Couldn't happen to a nicer team and owner.

The team is 40-24 when he's the starter and has a lifetime rating of near 100. As for playoff losses that aren't the QB's fault, Prescott has played in 3 postseason games. The Cowboys won once and lost one in which Aaron Rodgers was absolutely out of his mind at the end of the game. The Cowboys' offense certainly played well enough to win that game. Their other loss was to a Rams team that made the SB. The Cowboys defense gave up 273 rushing yards and 459 total yards in that game.

 

Lots of mythology in this thread ... 

11 minutes ago, C.Biscuit97 said:

Do you think Allen is championship caliber?  Jimmy G almost won the SB.  
 

I don’t see Dak as elite but people go to far to bash him.  He is 40-24, completed nearly 66% of his passes, 97 td to 36 int, a 97 qb rating, along with 21 rushing tds.  We would be over the moon if Allen has a start like that to his career.  

Lots of uninformed fans, it seems ...

1 hour ago, H2o said:

Dak's a quality QB, but not upper echelon. I have many friends that are Cowboys fans. The knock on him according to those friends is missing the open man on the intermediate to deep throws, especially in crunch time, and seemingly disappearing when the team needs him to throw them on his back. He's not a bad QB, but he's not a $35,000,000-$40,000,000 a year QB either. 

The salary number is irrelevant - what matters is the percentage of the cap room that the player takes up. Salaries go up ever year in a multi-billion dollar league whose revenue grows every year. Don't get hung up on salary numbers. 

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2 hours ago, ALF said:

He was underpaid for 4 years this is where he makes up for that. 

Unfortunately for him, that's not how owners look at it.  Some would also argue that Dallas was carried by Zeke (pun intended) and Dak just managed the game.  I think he was more than that but certainly not an elite player.  I always enjoy seeing turmoil in big D.

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Dak is nothing without Zeke and the numbers show that.  Zeke makes Dak look way better than he actually is.  Don't get me wrong, he's a decent QB, but take Zeke out of the game and Dak is comparable to the lower echelon of QBs in the league.  He should not be paid like a top tier QB.

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3 hours ago, BarleyNY said:


It’s not like Dallas couldn’t have gotten a discount last year.  Now it’s pay market value (or very close to it) or tag him and go down that road. 

 

They offered him $33 mil/yr last year and he turned it down. Was that a discount?

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I look at Prescott and see Steve McNair type talent but it's hard to know how good he is on such an inept franchise

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