Royale with Cheese Posted February 4, 2020 Share Posted February 4, 2020 Since I work mostly from home now, I just play a documentaries in the background as I'm on my computer. I've been bing watching the 30 for 30's. Obviously I love the 4 Falls of Buffalo because it relates to me/us the most but there's been a few that were really well done. Right now my two favorites are "The Two Escobars" and "Tommy". Tommy Morrison....man it was sad to see his final days. The dude liked women....that's for sure. Pablo Escobar destroyed Colombian soccer...that dude definitely left a trail. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ned Flanders Posted February 4, 2020 Share Posted February 4, 2020 I liked "Survive and Advance" about the NC State, Jimmy V championship team, and the one on the Baltimore Colts band. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KD in CA Posted February 4, 2020 Share Posted February 4, 2020 (edited) 50 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said: Pablo Escobar destroyed Colombian soccer...that dude definitely left a trail. My takeaway is that it went much deeper than just Escobar. The drug money built it, and when that collapsed so did the soccer. But yes, that is easily one of the top two or three installments in the series. The U was also fantastic, a retrospective on one of the great decades of college football and one of the great (and most controversial) dynasties. Pony Excess and Requiem for the Big East are also high on my list. Edited February 4, 2020 by KD in CA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted February 4, 2020 Share Posted February 4, 2020 "Broke" is a great one. "Requiem for the Big East" "Once Brothers" "Small Potatoes: Who Killed the USFL" (Trigger warning for all our Trump worshipers though. Spoiler Alert: It was another bad Trump business deal that killed it) "The U" "Pony Excess" "Catching Hell" Those are probably my favorites. But they really are ALL good. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KD in CA Posted February 4, 2020 Share Posted February 4, 2020 Just now, DrDawkinstein said: "Broke" is a great one. "Requiem for the Big East" "Once Brothers" "Small Potatoes: Who Killed the USFL" (Trigger warning for all our Trump worshipers though. Spoiler Alert: It was another bad Trump business deal that killed it) "The U" "Pony Excess" "Catching Hell" Those are probably my favorites. But they really are ALL good. Good call on USFL (Trump totally killed it) and Catching Hell, which was a jarring look into the mind of an angry mob. Pretty frightening actually. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted February 4, 2020 Author Share Posted February 4, 2020 7 minutes ago, KD in CA said: My takeaway is that it went much deeper than just Escobar. The drug money built it, and when that collapsed so did the soccer. But yes, that is easily one of the top two or three installments in the series. The U was also fantastic, a retrospective on one of the great decades of college football and one of the great (and most controversial) dynasties. Pony Excess and Requiem for the Big East are also high on my list. It it definitely went much deeper. I just wanted to put a one liner down for it. 4 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said: "Broke" is a great one. "Requiem for the Big East" "Once Brothers" "Small Potatoes: Who Killed the USFL" (Trigger warning for all our Trump worshipers though. Spoiler Alert: It was another bad Trump business deal that killed it) "The U" "Pony Excess" "Catching Hell" Those are probably my favorites. But they really are ALL good. I watched Catching Hell yesterday. I think I'm going as Bartman for Halloween next year. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted February 4, 2020 Share Posted February 4, 2020 1 minute ago, Royale with Cheese said: I watched Catching Hell yesterday. I think I'm going as Bartman for Halloween next year. I thought you were already just permanently cosplaying as him ? ? ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LewPort71 Posted February 4, 2020 Share Posted February 4, 2020 IMHO all the 30 for 30 films are great. Picking 2 ( Four Falls of Buffalo is a given) The Two Escobars Survive and Advance Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted February 4, 2020 Share Posted February 4, 2020 After living through it as an impressionable adolescent, I cant bring myself to watch The Four Falls of Buffalo and probably never will. I dont need to re-live that. I'm sure it's good. But I just can't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted February 4, 2020 Author Share Posted February 4, 2020 2 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said: After living through it as an impressionable adolescent, I cant bring myself to watch The Four Falls of Buffalo and probably never will. I dont need to re-live that. I'm sure it's good. But I just can't. There's tough moments that you have to re-live but it's worth a watch because the Bills win it all at the end. Don't you love a happy ending? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Another Fan Posted February 4, 2020 Share Posted February 4, 2020 They did one years back on The Bad Boys of the late 80s/early 90s Detroit Pistons teams I thought was pretty good 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbb Posted February 4, 2020 Share Posted February 4, 2020 20 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said: There's tough moments that you have to re-live but it's worth a watch because the Bills win it all at the end. Don't you love a happy ending? I hated it. The whole thing was about how these Bills never quit - and then they quit in the second half - with the scored tied - of Super Bowl 28. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted February 4, 2020 Share Posted February 4, 2020 3 minutes ago, bbb said: I hated it. The whole thing was about how these Bills never quit - and then they quit in the second half - with the scored tied - of Super Bowl 28. Big oof. Yeah, cant do it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plenzmd1 Posted February 4, 2020 Share Posted February 4, 2020 Funny my college aged daughter had a class that discussed “ Broke” last week and she asked for our ESPN+ login so she could watch. This child has never watched a damn game of any sport start to finish. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ned Flanders Posted February 4, 2020 Share Posted February 4, 2020 53 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said: After living through it as an impressionable adolescent, I cant bring myself to watch The Four Falls of Buffalo and probably never will. I dont need to re-live that. I'm sure it's good. But I just can't. I feel the same way. "Requiem for the Big East" is a great one and I really liked "Catholics vs. Convicts"...the whole story on how that guy hustled the t-shirts was very entertaining. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted February 4, 2020 Share Posted February 4, 2020 27 minutes ago, plenzmd1 said: Funny my college aged daughter had a class that discussed “ Broke” last week and she asked for our ESPN+ login so she could watch. This child has never watched a damn game of any sport start to finish. It really is a great lesson and a lot of good advice for everyone to hear. Not just young athletes with tons of cash. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seasons1992 Posted February 4, 2020 Share Posted February 4, 2020 1 hour ago, DrDawkinstein said: After living through it as an impressionable adolescent, I cant bring myself to watch The Four Falls of Buffalo and probably never will. I dont need to re-live that. I'm sure it's good. But I just can't. You should watch it, it's well done. Hard to watch but still with a lot of grace towards the players and city. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Hammersticks Posted February 4, 2020 Share Posted February 4, 2020 Fantastic Lies, the story of the Duke Lacrosse team rape scandal is great. Gut wrenching stuff. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbb Posted February 4, 2020 Share Posted February 4, 2020 2 minutes ago, Johnny Hammersticks said: Fantastic Lies, the story of the Duke Lacrosse team rape scandal is great. Gut wrenching stuff. I really like a lot of them, but this one stands out for me...............The stripper/accusor at the end - at a press conference "I just wanted justice" - after she was proven to have made it up. How does that make any sense?!? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted February 4, 2020 Author Share Posted February 4, 2020 31 minutes ago, bbb said: I really like a lot of them, but this one stands out for me...............The stripper/accusor at the end - at a press conference "I just wanted justice" - after she was proven to have made it up. How does that make any sense?!? I honestly think she was a crack baby or something. I felt bad for her because I think the Lawyer really screwed with her mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Vader Posted February 4, 2020 Share Posted February 4, 2020 1 hour ago, DrDawkinstein said: "Broke" is a great one. "Requiem for the Big East" "Once Brothers" "Small Potatoes: Who Killed the USFL" (Trigger warning for all our Trump worshipers though. Spoiler Alert: It was another bad Trump business deal that killed it) "The U" "Pony Excess" "Catching Hell" Those are probably my favorites. But they really are ALL good. 1 hour ago, KD in CA said: Good call on USFL (Trump totally killed it) and Catching Hell, which was a jarring look into the mind of an angry mob. Pretty frightening actually. I'm not putting the demise of the USFL all on Trump, there were other things that were done by that league that did them in. Does "O.J.: Made in America" count as a 30 for 30? Because if it does, that is an excellent one. I also enjoyed "Small Potatoes", "Catholics Vs. Convicts", "Nature Boy", The Baltimore Colts Marching Band, and the one about Jimmy the Greek. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted February 4, 2020 Share Posted February 4, 2020 36 minutes ago, Mark Vader said: I'm not putting the demise of the USFL all on Trump, there were other things that were done by that league that did them in. Does "O.J.: Made in America" count as a 30 for 30? Because if it does, that is an excellent one. I also enjoyed "Small Potatoes", "Catholics Vs. Convicts", "Nature Boy", The Baltimore Colts Marching Band, and the one about Jimmy the Greek. Watch the USFL doc. It's clear what happened. Donnie bought his way in figuring it would be his way into an NFL franchise. He did his usual MO: tank the company and then sue someone else. They settled for $1 and the damage to the USFL was already done. He's interviewed in the doc and walks off in a huff. But I digress... OJ: Made in America is part of the 30 for 30 series, but I prefer the doc titled "June 17th, 1994" which chronicles all the amazing things that happened in sports on one crazy day and also the White Bronco chase. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted February 4, 2020 Share Posted February 4, 2020 Once Brothers!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted February 4, 2020 Share Posted February 4, 2020 (edited) 3 hours ago, DrDawkinstein said: After living through it as an impressionable adolescent, I cant bring myself to watch The Four Falls of Buffalo and probably never will. I dont need to re-live that. I'm sure it's good. But I just can't. You almost have to, man. It's a part of us. The next time the Bills reach the Super Bowl I'm going to watch it the day before. Edited February 4, 2020 by eball Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KD in CA Posted February 4, 2020 Share Posted February 4, 2020 52 minutes ago, Mark Vader said: I'm not putting the demise of the USFL all on Trump, there were other things that were done by that league that did them in. Does "O.J.: Made in America" count as a 30 for 30? Because if it does, that is an excellent one. I also enjoyed "Small Potatoes", "Catholics Vs. Convicts", "Nature Boy", The Baltimore Colts Marching Band, and the one about Jimmy the Greek. I believe it does....which given the breadth of the subject matter probably makes it the best one of all. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted February 4, 2020 Share Posted February 4, 2020 3 hours ago, DrDawkinstein said: After living through it as an impressionable adolescent, I cant bring myself to watch The Four Falls of Buffalo and probably never will. I dont need to re-live that. I'm sure it's good. But I just can't. I am the same. Everyone says it’s great; I can’t get myself to watch it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbb Posted February 4, 2020 Share Posted February 4, 2020 1 hour ago, Royale with Cheese said: I honestly think she was a crack baby or something. I felt bad for her because I think the Lawyer really screwed with her mind. You're a better person than me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D. L. Hot-Flamethrower Posted February 4, 2020 Share Posted February 4, 2020 Gotta be "You don't know Bo" for me. Loved Pony Excess and so many others. I've always said the 30-30 series is the best thing that ESPN does. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Vader Posted February 4, 2020 Share Posted February 4, 2020 21 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said: Watch the USFL doc. It's clear what happened. Donnie bought his way in figuring it would be his way into an NFL franchise. He did his usual MO: tank the company and then sue someone else. They settled for $1 and the damage to the USFL was already done. He's interviewed in the doc and walks off in a huff. But I digress... OJ: Made in America is part of the 30 for 30 series, but I prefer the doc titled "June 17th, 1994" which chronicles all the amazing things that happened in sports on one crazy day and also the White Bronco chase. I saw the USFL documentary, as I said there were other circumstances that doomed that league. Expanding to other cities in it second season was a dumb move, some of the original teams had to move to other cities in order to stay viable. Putting all of the blame on Trump(and he does deserve blame) for the league folding is too easy of a cop out. There were other things that were wrong with that league. "June 17th, 1994", was fascinating. I love how that particular documentary has no narrative. It just shows you all of the events as reported. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted February 4, 2020 Author Share Posted February 4, 2020 8 minutes ago, bbb said: You're a better person than me. Oh I think she's a bad person too...she created this mess. I just think the Lawyer played on it and took it too far and used her as a puppet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbb Posted February 4, 2020 Share Posted February 4, 2020 9 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said: Oh I think she's a bad person too...she created this mess. I just think the Lawyer played on it and took it too far and used her as a puppet. That statement was what made at what appeared to be a press conference made me hate her. You can't just want justice for something that didn't happen and was proven not to have happened! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Hammersticks Posted February 4, 2020 Share Posted February 4, 2020 23 minutes ago, D. L. Hot-Flamethrower said: Gotta be "You don't know Bo" for me. Oh yeah! This one would definitely be in my top 3. Love the stories of his childhood. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted February 4, 2020 Author Share Posted February 4, 2020 30 minutes ago, Johnny Hammersticks said: Oh yeah! This one would definitely be in my top 3. Love the stories of his childhood. I can promise you, Bo didn't leap over a 40 foot wide river. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Hammersticks Posted February 4, 2020 Share Posted February 4, 2020 6 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said: I can promise you, Bo didn't leap over a 40 foot wide river. Did he dunk a stick on an 11 foot rim when he was 7 years old? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted February 4, 2020 Author Share Posted February 4, 2020 14 minutes ago, Johnny Hammersticks said: Did he dunk a stick on an 11 foot rim when he was 7 years old? Yeah I actually witnessed that. I wouldn't call it a stick, I would call it more like a log. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greybeard Posted February 4, 2020 Share Posted February 4, 2020 "9.79" The story about the 100Meter sprinters during the Summer Olympics in Seoul. Cheaters abound. I enjoyed this so much I have this on DVR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Posted February 4, 2020 Share Posted February 4, 2020 I was on an ESPN E-60. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Needle Posted February 5, 2020 Share Posted February 5, 2020 "The Best That Never Was" and "Nature Boy" I like all of them but some are better than others. These two are my favorite. The story of Marcus Dupree is something I wasn't very familiar with and I thought it was really well done. "Nature Boy" was great too and Ric Flair was the man when I was a kid. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dhg Posted February 5, 2020 Share Posted February 5, 2020 (edited) 7 hours ago, DrDawkinstein said: OJ: Made in America is part of the 30 for 30 series, but I prefer the doc titled "June 17th, 1994" which chronicles all the amazing things that happened in sports on one crazy day and also the White Bronco chase. I thought that one was very good. Amazing everything in sports that happened that day. Edited February 5, 2020 by dhg 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted February 5, 2020 Author Share Posted February 5, 2020 5 hours ago, Binghamton Beast said: I was on an ESPN E-60. Is this what’s called a cliffhanger? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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