billsfan1959 Posted April 9, 2020 Share Posted April 9, 2020 3 minutes ago, 3rdnlng said: WHO said that? I believe it is a sarcastic reference at the WHO and their stance throughout January 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted April 9, 2020 Share Posted April 9, 2020 9 minutes ago, Gary Busey said: It's April 9th and there are symptomatic patients with fever who still can't get a test in Erie County. So I’m guessing this testing thing really has you bugged Gary. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magox Posted April 9, 2020 Share Posted April 9, 2020 Looks like the NY times decided to finally lay a glove on Cuomo and Deblasio. Quote For many days after the first positive test, as the coronavirus silently spread throughout the New York region, Mr. Cuomo, Mr. de Blasio and their top aides projected an unswerving confidence that the outbreak would be readily contained. There would be cases, they repeatedly said, but New York’s hospitals were some of the best in the world. Plans were in place. Responses had been rehearsed during “tabletop” exercises. After all, the city had been here before — Ebola, Zika, the H1N1 virus, even Sept. 11. “Excuse our arrogance as New Yorkers — I speak for the mayor also on this one — we think we have the best health care system on the planet right here in New York,” Mr. Cuomo said on March 2. “So, when you’re saying, what happened in other countries versus what happened here, we don’t even think it’s going to be as bad as it was in other countries.”… “We can really keep this thing contained,” Mr. de Blasio said at a news conference about virus preparations in late February. That tone continued even after the first positive case was announced on March 1. “Everybody is doing exactly what we need to do,” said Mr. Cuomo, seated with Mr. de Blasio, at a news conference on March 2. “We have been ahead of this from Day 1.” Quote By March 12, a doctor gave Mayor de Blasio a particularly stark warning that if some kind of shut down didn’t happen, up to 70% of the city could become infected. According to the Times, here’s how de Blasio reacted: Mr. de Blasio, seated beside her at the meeting, stared daggers as she spoke. “Why don’t you shut down restaurants now?” a chief executive who attended the meeting recalled someone asking the mayor. “I’m really concerned about restaurateurs; I’m really concerned about jobs,” the mayor responded, the executive recalled. Mr. de Blasio had urged New Yorkers to start social distancing and work from home where possible. The following weekend, even though Mr. de Blasio and Mr. Cuomo had ordered occupancy limits for restaurants and bars, much of the city’s nightlife appeared to continue apace. Quote The shutdown of New York’s schools and businesses wasn’t in Trump’s hands, it was in the hands of Cuomo and de Blasio the whole time [emphasis added]: State and city officials believed they were doing everything possible to confront the outbreak, moving from big decision to big decision so quickly that each day, they said, felt like a year. They blamed the spread in New York on the federal government, which they say dragged its feet on testing. For weeks, Mr. Trump brushed aside concerns that the outbreak would damage the country… But local officials did have control over closing schools and businesses. While they waited on making a decision, other major cities were moving toward shutdowns. In California, Los Angeles followed San Francisco’s lead and closed its schools on March 13, after 40 cases of the virus had been confirmed. On that same day, there were nearly four times as many confirmed cases in New York, but the city’s schools remained open. I actually was in New York city from the 16th-18th. The restaurants were still open and there was no stay-at-home order yet that was in place. I don't post this to blame them. No one was truly prepared for this. Not Europe, not W.H.O, not the CDC, not the federal government etc etc. The only ones who truly handled this well that were in the Northern Hemisphere were the Asians and that was because of their history with H1N1. If you are someone who is constantly bashing the Federal government, then I think this article I think pretty much squashes the idea that this was just a "Bad Orange man" issue. With that said, I don't expect the NY times to follow up with this story and that this story will not be played throughout cable news networks, and if they do it will be just a brief mention with very little follow up. If the media was even handed, there would be LOTS to go after Cuomo and DeBlasio with. But of course they won't because the national corporate media is a broken institution. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Bills Fan Posted April 9, 2020 Share Posted April 9, 2020 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Magox said: Looks like the NY times decided to finally lay a glove on Cuomo and Deblasio. I actually was in New York city from the 16th-18th. The restaurants were still open and there was no stay-at-home order yet that was in place. I don't post this to blame them. No one was truly prepared for this. Not Europe, not W.H.O, not the CDC, not the federal government etc etc. The only ones who truly handled this well that were in the Northern Hemisphere were the Asians and that was because of their history with H1N1. If you are someone who is constantly bashing the Federal government, then I think this article I think pretty much squashes the idea that this was just a "Bad Orange man" issue. With that said, I don't expect the NY times to follow up with this story and that this story will not be played throughout cable news networks, and if they do it will be just a brief mention with very little follow up. If the media was even handed, there would be LOTS to go after Cuomo and DeBlasio with. But of course they won't because the national corporate media is a broken institution. Good post but disagree part on WHO. There suckered up kissing China (ccp) butt while rest of the world suffered. Like President Trump said. Time to investigate and possibly stop paying them. Edited April 9, 2020 by Buffalo Bills Fan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shoshin Posted April 9, 2020 Share Posted April 9, 2020 (edited) 18 minutes ago, Gary Busey said: It's April 9th and there are symptomatic patients with fever who still can't get a test in Erie County. It sucks and people are working on it as hard as they can. You can’t make these things appear overnight. There are people everywhere not getting tested. Some for lack of tests. Some for lack of ppe for testers. Some because they should stay home because we don’t want others exposed. It’s a tough time. The hope on testing is that it will be there, and way more organized (away from hospitals) for the next wave. Edited April 9, 2020 by shoshin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted April 9, 2020 Share Posted April 9, 2020 21 minutes ago, ALF said: Andrew Cuomo @NYGovCuomo · 19h #BREAKING: All New Yorkers will be able to vote absentee on the June 23rd primaries. New Yorkers shouldn't have to choose between their health and their civic duty What a disaster that Wisconsin could not vote this way Milwaukee has around 300,000 registered voters and usually has 180 polling locations. On Tuesday, there were just five open because many sites were consolidated due to a shortage of poll workers. https://www.nbc15.com/content/news/Long-lines-forming-at-Milwaukee-polling-locations-569436971.html Of course. He's a democrat, and democrats love voter fraud and enabling it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxx Posted April 9, 2020 Share Posted April 9, 2020 12 minutes ago, billsfan1959 said: I believe it is a sarcastic reference at the WHO and their stance throughout January what's on second. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warren Zevon Posted April 9, 2020 Share Posted April 9, 2020 2 minutes ago, Joe in Winslow said: Of course. He's a democrat, and democrats love voter fraud and enabling it. They do the same thing in Florida. Even your highness Trump voted by mail. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shoshin Posted April 9, 2020 Share Posted April 9, 2020 (edited) I like voting by paper. No lines. I can take my time. Paper or electronic, whatever. It’s a state by state issue with fraud accusations more exciting than real. It’s going to take a long time to count all those though! Edited April 9, 2020 by shoshin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warren Zevon Posted April 9, 2020 Share Posted April 9, 2020 13 minutes ago, billsfan1959 said: I believe it is a sarcastic reference at the WHO and their stance throughout January You're saying I'm missing the point? eeeeek Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Bills Fan Posted April 9, 2020 Share Posted April 9, 2020 1 minute ago, shoshin said: It sucks and people are working on it as hard as they can. You can’t make these things appear overnight. There are people everywhere not getting tested. Some for lack of tests. Some for lack of ppe. Some because they should stay home because we don’t want others exposed. It’s a tough time. The hope on testing is that it will be there, and way more organized (away from hospitals) for the next wave. America has the most test done. While noone else close to them. 2,226,116 USA (highest) to Germany 1,317,887. As of right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted April 9, 2020 Share Posted April 9, 2020 13 minutes ago, billsfan1959 said: I believe it is a sarcastic reference at the WHO and their stance throughout January Sarcasm my friend. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted April 9, 2020 Share Posted April 9, 2020 1 hour ago, Gary M said: Yeah I had an Asian guy tell me once to always get white rice, fried rice is dirty, they reuse from previous day and break it up with their hands. Because that’s the only thing in the kitchen they touch. ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shoshin Posted April 9, 2020 Share Posted April 9, 2020 1 minute ago, Buffalo Bills Fan said: America has the most test done. While noone else close to them. 2,226,116 USA (highest) to Germany 1,317,887. As of right now. Per capita is a more telling stat on testing. We all know that we need lots more testing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan1959 Posted April 9, 2020 Share Posted April 9, 2020 5 minutes ago, Magox said: I don't post this to blame them. No one was truly prepared for this. Not Europe, not W.H.O, not the CDC, not the federal government etc etc. Exactly. People who continually want to complain, criticize, and engage in the blame game, during a crisis, are doing so out of purely selfish reasons. There will be plenty of time to analyze responses and actions down the road. When we do, and if we do so from an objective perspective, we will find that there were plenty of mistakes made by many people, here and around the world. Rather than use that information to cast blame on those who were trying their best, hopefully, we can use it to take steps to reduce the chances of it happening again and to be better prepared the next time it does. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Bills Fan Posted April 9, 2020 Share Posted April 9, 2020 Jeez this guy is awful 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted April 9, 2020 Share Posted April 9, 2020 31 minutes ago, Gary Busey said: He's mocking the dead not me. No he’s not but you knew that. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan1959 Posted April 9, 2020 Share Posted April 9, 2020 4 minutes ago, 3rdnlng said: Sarcasm my friend. Clearly, I should have known. My bad... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warren Zevon Posted April 9, 2020 Share Posted April 9, 2020 2 minutes ago, billsfan1959 said: People who continually want to complain, criticize, and engage in the blame game, during a crisis, are doing so out of purely selfish reasons. Complain, criticize, and blame? The president is doing each of those things daily. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted April 9, 2020 Share Posted April 9, 2020 3 minutes ago, shoshin said: Per capita is a more telling stat on testing. We all know that we need lots more testing. Here’s your answer. Right now the US is dead average of the top ten impacted countries when measured in tests per million. But you have to remember we’re a MUCH BIGGER country geographically so we have little reason for mass testing in entire sections of the interior. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted April 9, 2020 Share Posted April 9, 2020 29 minutes ago, Gary Busey said: It's April 9th and there are symptomatic patients with fever who still can't get a test in Erie County. Do you stomp your feet when you type Veruca? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warren Zevon Posted April 9, 2020 Share Posted April 9, 2020 Just now, Chef Jim said: Do you stomp your feet when you type Veruca? Do you cry when the lettuce turns brown? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted April 9, 2020 Share Posted April 9, 2020 Just now, Gary Busey said: Complain, criticize, and blame? The president is doing each of those things daily. Did he mention you Gary? I’m guessing the President is working MUCH HARDER on this problem than you are....don’t ya think? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warren Zevon Posted April 9, 2020 Share Posted April 9, 2020 2 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said: Did he mention you Gary? I’m guessing the President is working MUCH HARDER on this problem than you are....don’t ya think? He said people who continually want to complain, criticize, and engage in the blame game, during a crisis, are doing so out of purely selfish reasons. The president is included in "people" unless he's a Reptilian like Hillary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted April 9, 2020 Share Posted April 9, 2020 2 minutes ago, Gary Busey said: Do you cry when the lettuce turns brown? No I feed it to Gary Busey and tell him it’s a new variety of arugula that only the top restaurants in LA can get. His response? “Duuuuude!” 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Bills Fan Posted April 9, 2020 Share Posted April 9, 2020 Gotta feel for as well people lost there jobs cause of covid-19 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warren Zevon Posted April 9, 2020 Share Posted April 9, 2020 Just now, Chef Jim said: No I feed it to Gary Busey and tell him it’s a new variety of arugula that only the top restaurants in LA can get. His response? “Duuuuude!” I'm so offended because I'm actually Gary Busey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted April 9, 2020 Share Posted April 9, 2020 2 minutes ago, Gary Busey said: He said people who continually want to complain, criticize, and engage in the blame game, during a crisis, are doing so out of purely selfish reasons. The president is included in "people" unless he's a Reptilian like Hillary. You must love it when the second man in at a hockey fight gets a game misconduct. The man is working day and night to help America get through this and what he faces every day from the media and some local officials is a steaming load of crap! I’m going to cut him slack when exhaustion forces him to punch back a bit. I’m actually shocked at how quickly he regains his composure and immediately answers the next question with a smile on his face. I’d tell the media pool to go f$&k themselves! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted April 9, 2020 Share Posted April 9, 2020 4 minutes ago, Gary Busey said: I'm so offended because I'm actually Gary Busey No you’re not. The real Gary Busey wouldn’t have had a clue he was just insulted. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted April 9, 2020 Share Posted April 9, 2020 42 minutes ago, Gary Busey said: It's April 9th and there are symptomatic patients with fever who still can't get a test in Erie County. So, have you figured out yet that doctors are telling people with mild symptoms to not come in to the hospital or drs. office? They might just be trying to keep social distancing by not testing people who don't as of yet have any serious symptoms? Do you think Erie County's protocol is different than any other county in the U.S.? It would appear that we as a country now have adequate PPE's, masks and ventilators in the country. While there may be some glitches in certain areas they are distribution issues not overall supply issues. We also have a pipeline that is getting full fast. Listen, covid-19 is the worst virus to hit our country in a century. Some states and counties were not prepared for it and the federal government has had to assist them in providing equipment. It seems to me that the feds have done a remarkable job in getting up to speed. You on the other hand just biitch about everything that you think might reflect on our president. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warren Zevon Posted April 9, 2020 Share Posted April 9, 2020 5 minutes ago, 3rdnlng said: So, have you figured out yet that doctors are telling people with mild symptoms to not come in to the hospital or drs. office? They might just be trying to keep social distancing by not testing people who don't as of yet have any serious symptoms? Do you think Erie County's protocol is different than any other county in the U.S.? It would appear that we as a country now have adequate PPE's, masks and ventilators in the country. While there may be some glitches in certain areas they are distribution issues not overall supply issues. We also have a pipeline that is getting full fast. Listen, covid-19 is the worst virus to hit our country in a century. Some states and counties were not prepared for it and the federal government has had to assist them in providing equipment. It seems to me that the feds have done a remarkable job in getting up to speed. You on the other hand just biitch about everything that you think might reflect on our president. When a nursing home with covid positive patients can't get enough tests for other symptomatic patients there that is a problem. Where are all those drive thrus you were bragging about being open last week? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Q-baby! Posted April 9, 2020 Share Posted April 9, 2020 29 minutes ago, Chef Jim said: No you’re not. The real Gary Busey wouldn’t have had a clue he was just insulted. So you are the real Gary Busey? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IDBillzFan Posted April 9, 2020 Share Posted April 9, 2020 1 hour ago, Magox said: Reasonable people can see ... Think about who you were responding to. Now think about your statement above. Gary is a lot of things, but reasonable is not one of them. It's pissing in the wind because he's gone from zero to Greta on the meltdown meter and reason is out the window. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koko78 Posted April 9, 2020 Share Posted April 9, 2020 (edited) 3 hours ago, shoshin said: The death count is the best measure we have. It’s not entirely accurate but that works both ways. Lots of bodies are not being tested, so there are estimates saying the count is low by half. There’s no better measure of progress of this disease that we have. Death count is meaningless with no distinction between dying 'with' and dying 'of'. As an example, did this kid die 'with' or die 'of' the virus? https://www.thedailynewsonline.com/top_story/grieving-mother-denied-autopsy-after-suspected-covid-19-death/article_6c9c128d-268a-5bf0-a6c1-25d23e59f609.html We'll never know, because they're refusing to do an autopsy. Edited April 9, 2020 by Koko78 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloHokie13 Posted April 9, 2020 Share Posted April 9, 2020 8 minutes ago, Gary Busey said: Where are all those drive thrus you were bragging about being open last week? https://www.goodrx.com/blog/drive-thru-coronavirus-testing-near-me/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Gal Posted April 9, 2020 Share Posted April 9, 2020 Kansas lawmakers OVERTURN limit on social gatherings so people can head to church on Easter Sunday as state's death toll jumps 40 percent in a day * Kansas state legislators deemed a ban on religious gatherings with more than ten people to be unconstitutional * They voted Wednesday against the restriction imposed by Gov. Laura Kelly * 'This is still America', Kansas Senate President Susan Wagle argued * The vote came despite a 40 percent jump in the state's coronavirus death toll * At least three cluster outbreaks in Kansas have been linked to church gatherings * Gov. Kelly is seeking legal counsel regarding the vote </snip> The vote was only made possible because of a resolution passed by the legislature in March which allowed leaders to cancel the Democrat governor’s directives in some circumstances. 'The Governor should not use this crisis, or any other crisis, as a basis to restrict our constitutional rights,' argued Kansas Senate President Susan Wagle, a Republican, who said that residents of Kansas were capable of making the decision to worship at home without it being forced upon them. 'My church has canceled Mass at the advice of health experts; the same advice most Kansans are now following. However, they did it with free will, not a mandate by big brother infringing on the individual freedoms given to us by our Bill of Rights,' she continued. </snip> 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Q-baby! Posted April 9, 2020 Share Posted April 9, 2020 5 minutes ago, Koko78 said: Death count is meaningless with no distinction between dying 'with' and dying 'of'. As an example, did this kid die 'with' or die 'of' the virus? https://www.thedailynewsonline.com/top_story/grieving-mother-denied-autopsy-after-suspected-covid-19-death/article_6c9c128d-268a-5bf0-a6c1-25d23e59f609.html We'll never know, because they're refusing to do an autopsy. Only people who care about numbers for political reasons care about that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
123719bwiqrb Posted April 9, 2020 Share Posted April 9, 2020 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Buffalo_Gal said: Kansas lawmakers OVERTURN limit on social gatherings so people can head to church on Easter Sunday as state's death toll jumps 40 percent in a day * Kansas state legislators deemed a ban on religious gatherings with more than ten people to be unconstitutional * They voted Wednesday against the restriction imposed by Gov. Laura Kelly * 'This is still America', Kansas Senate President Susan Wagle argued * The vote came despite a 40 percent jump in the state's coronavirus death toll * At least three cluster outbreaks in Kansas have been linked to church gatherings * Gov. Kelly is seeking legal counsel regarding the vote </snip> The vote was only made possible because of a resolution passed by the legislature in March which allowed leaders to cancel the Democrat governor’s directives in some circumstances. 'The Governor should not use this crisis, or any other crisis, as a basis to restrict our constitutional rights,' argued Kansas Senate President Susan Wagle, a Republican, who said that residents of Kansas were capable of making the decision to worship at home without it being forced upon them. 'My church has canceled Mass at the advice of health experts; the same advice most Kansans are now following. However, they did it with free will, not a mandate by big brother infringing on the individual freedoms given to us by our Bill of Rights,' she continued. </snip> It is the correct ruling. It may not be the smartest thing to pop on down to church on Sunday with grandma in tow, but it is their choice and right. This topic is going to fire up the low information crowd, I can see it now. Edited April 9, 2020 by ScotSHO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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billsfan1959 Posted April 9, 2020 Share Posted April 9, 2020 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Buffalo_Gal said: Was this posted? Shhhhhhh..... And, whatever you do, don't tell @transplantbillsfan. His head will explode... Edited April 9, 2020 by billsfan1959 1 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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