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1 hour ago, 3rdnlng said:

Yes, I've said negative things about Trump numerous times. I've called him inartful, boorish, a blowhard and a buffoon. Basically, everyone else here who supports his policies and thus his presidency have done the same. 

That is not a criticism of any of his decisions, that's just recognizing his personality.

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4 minutes ago, billsfan1959 said:

 

 

God help us if this is the kind of leadership we ever end up with in a crisis....

She is right though. Economically correct. Trickle down alone won't jump start the economy. If Trump wins reelection he has Nancy Pelosi to thank for pushing money into the consumer sector. 

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Gotta feel for everyone in world.  People going to be shocked Italy next update.

1 hour ago, dubs said:


honest question: why do you post every singular story of individuals effected by the coronavirus?  It’s not really helpful or informative. Everyone is aware of what this disease can do and everyone thinks it’s sad and tragic to those it impacts. 
 

this isn’t Facebook and I don’t think these posts are particularly informative or helpful. 
 

And I apologize if I’m this is harsh, I don’t mean to be. 

All good I understand.  All about learning from others

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10 minutes ago, billsfan1959 said:

 

Normally, I would agree (there are a lot of times I think he would be better served to take the high road) - or, I guess a better way to have put it is that this should have been accomplished behind the scenes. However, as much as I dislike some of the provisions in this legislation or even if Massie may be standing on what he promised his constituency, now is not the time to take that stand - that point has passed. As you well know, there are a lot of people out here that are hurting and concerned right now, and they want to see congress do something that looks and feels helpful right now.

 

The bill sucks, and that's coming from someone who potentially gets the best part of the bill, the forgivable small business loan..

 

The people in charge of passing this bill should look at every line item request and ask/answer one question so simple that even a Tibs/AOC love child could answer it: Does this help Americans get through this economic schittshow? There's a bunch of stupid stuff in this bill and there is literally NO REASON for it to be in there. NONE.

 

The idea of "Well, we have to hold our noses and push this through so it looks and feels helpful right now" is bullschitt.

 

Sorry. Hate the bill. Absolutely hate it.

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7 minutes ago, Tiberius said:

She is right though. Economically correct. Trickle down alone won't jump start the economy. If Trump wins reelection he has Nancy Pelosi to thank for pushing money into the consumer sector. 


No. No, she is not. 
 

The words “thankful” and “Nancy Pelosi” should never be used in the same sentence when talking about the economy, unless it is some variation of a sentence like, “I am so thankful Nancy Pelosi has been voted out of office so she can’t damage our economy anymore.”

 

1 minute ago, IDBillzFan said:

 

The bill sucks, and that's coming from someone who potentially gets the best part of the bill, the forgivable small business loan..

 

The people in charge of passing this bill should look at every line item request and ask/answer one question so simple that even a Tibs/AOC love child could answer it: Does this help Americans get through this economic schittshow? There's a bunch of stupid stuff in this bill and there is literally NO REASON for it to be in there. NONE.

 

The idea of "Well, we have to hold our noses and push this through so it looks and feels helpful right now" is bullschitt.

 

Sorry. Hate the bill. Absolutely hate it.


Hate it as well. However, that stand should have been taken last week by the Republicans in the Senate.

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1 minute ago, billsfan1959 said:


No. No, she is not. 
 

The words “thankful” and “Nancy Pelosi” should never be used in the same sentence when talking about the economy, unless it is some variation of a sentence like, “I am so thankful Nancy Pelosi has been voted out of office so she can’t damage our economy anymore.”

 

On the other hand, anyone who thinks Pelosi is the winner in all of this has a leftwing hand up their puppetass. Pelosi did more damage than anyone by trying to push AOC's agenda into the bill.

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BTW if you're getting texts from friends about the wives tales about avoiding Ibuprofen, this is probably one of those cases where even circumstantial evidence is strong enough to warrant avoiding them altogether.  Always check the label, first.

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56 minutes ago, 3rdnlng said:

Cuomo just said that what is killing patients with the virus is that  they are on the ventilators for too long of a period of time. Now we all know that was not literally what he meant. Being on the ventilator too long does not cause death. The media will give him a pass on this as well they should. Think of the uproar if Trump had said this.

She is sounding more like Greta everyday.

Agree with you. Ya in earlier post. I'm much more independent. Like you critical Trump some things. But he done more good than bad. As well Cuomo. Going to criticize him this one. Like you said. My hate now for Nancy pelosi and China government. Blaming everyone else.  And there numbers are full of crap. Imo.

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2 hours ago, Deranged Rhino said:


It was false. And he deleted it after being destroyed on twitter for pushing false information intentionally to scare people. He’s an asshat and a dishonest messenger. Always has been. Full stop. 

So, is this also false?  How is it any different than what he said?

 

 

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10 minutes ago, TPS said:

That is not a criticism of any of his decisions, that's just recognizing his personality.

I'm sure there are some things that he actually puts in place that I'm not too happy with but I can't think of any off the top of my head. He's not perfect but he's what we need for the times. He ran on a certain agenda and he's getting it done with the strongest headwinds possible fighting him. He hasn't shriveled up and given in when facing opposition. He's like the opposite of Obama who was all hat and no cattle. Trump is all cattle plus a MAGA hat.  

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3 minutes ago, GG said:

BTW if you're getting texts from friends about the wives tales about avoiding Ibuprofen, this is probably one of those cases where even circumstantial evidence is strong enough to warrant avoiding them altogether.  Always check the label, first.

Right. Some good sites and YouTube like medcram . But people have to check evidence and ask the doctor over personal opinion if really need them to help live. Like there is something forget helps people life's. Forgot the name. But it's something big to help people. But be careful using anti inflammatory drugs. Ask doctor about them.  Those that use them for non critical things think twice for the same. Use caution.

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58 minutes ago, IDBillzFan said:

 

I disagree. This is bad Trump. He has a great opportunity to take a higher road than he usually does because more people are watching than ever before. Being openly critical like this from someone on his own party, who is just taking a stand he promised to take when elected, is a bad look. Especially when you have nutbags like AOC going fully unhinged as a backdrop to the adults in the room. I really dislike this part of Trump...at least as it relates to his own party. He can do this to crazies like Schumer and Pelosi all day.

 

 

Unfortunately she represents everything the Democrats hate: a, calm, rational, well-spoken woman sharing common sense. 

 

Especially compared to this batschittcrazy loon. It's more fun to watch on mute, by the way.

 

 

She's such a fascist wannabe. 

 

 

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15 minutes ago, IDBillzFan said:

 

The bill sucks, and that's coming from someone who potentially gets the best part of the bill, the forgivable small business loan..

 

The people in charge of passing this bill should look at every line item request and ask/answer one question so simple that even a Tibs/AOC love child could answer it: Does this help Americans get through this economic schittshow? There's a bunch of stupid stuff in this bill and there is literally NO REASON for it to be in there. NONE.

 

The idea of "Well, we have to hold our noses and push this through so it looks and feels helpful right now" is bullschitt.

 

Sorry. Hate the bill. Absolutely hate it.


The bill is horrible, and yet it was better than what Nancy was pushing. SMH Wow, do I have low expectations.

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16 minutes ago, billsfan1959 said:


No. No, she is not. 
 

The words “thankful” and “Nancy Pelosi” should never be used in the same sentence when talking about the economy, unless it is some variation of a sentence like, “I am so thankful Nancy Pelosi has been voted out of office so she can’t damage our economy anymore.”

 

So you simply can't recognize her contributions simply out of blind partisan spite? 

 

Serious question; Do you think Hillary Clinton has people murdered? 

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Over 900 deaths in one day in Italy. Now think about those Spring Breakers that are carrying this thing to every corner of our country! 

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2 minutes ago, Tiberius said:

So you simply can't recognize her contributions simply out of blind partisan spite? 

 

Serious question; Do you think Hillary Clinton has people murdered? 

You think Pelosi contributed anything positive to this bill? Name them. Specifically.

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1 minute ago, Buffalo_Gal said:


The bill is horrible, and yet it was better than what Nancy was pushing. SMH Wow, do I have low expectations.

 

That just underlines my point. The current logic is "It's not perfect, but at least it's not (fill in the blank)."

 

It's not difficult at all to pull the stupid $11B marked for the ADF, IDA, etc. And it's embarrassing anyone would even consider it worth putting in there in the first place.

 

This isn't difficult. But we're just supposed to accept it because it's better than nothing. It sucked when Obama did it and it sucks when Trump and the GOP do it.

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2 minutes ago, Buffalo_Gal said:


The bill is horrible, and yet it was better than what Nancy was pushing. SMH Wow, do I have low expectations.

 

Honestly, my biggest concern with this whole thing isn't the virus or even the economic devastation (although both are concerning).  The concern that supersedes all (IMO) is the permanent damage that this will do to the psyche and attitudes of the American people.  The socialists continue to push an agenda and false choice of perceived safety for more control, less transparency, and ultimately more power for them.  At some point, and we may already be there, we will pass the tipping point where enough citizens have been raised on government schools, get their information from government media, and get life's necessities from government homes, government food, government retirement, government transportation, and the list goes on.  Once we pass that tipping point, its game over for American liberties and freedom.

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12 minutes ago, IDBillzFan said:

 

That just underlines my point. The current logic is "It's not perfect, but at least it's not (fill in the blank)."

 

It's not difficult at all to pull the stupid $11B marked for the ADF, IDA, etc. And it's embarrassing anyone would even consider it worth putting in there in the first place.

 

This isn't difficult. But we're just supposed to accept it because it's better than nothing. It sucked when Obama did it and it sucks when Trump and the GOP do it.


You are correct on all counts. The problem is that the Republicans in the Senate should have taken this stand when they had the chance. I was all in favor of holding this thing up to do just that and I believe they would have had the majority of the support of the American people in doing so. 
 

I believe it is too late now.

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30 minutes ago, TPS said:

So, is this also false?  How is it any different than what he said?

 

He didn't say it was a plan (until well after his initial tweet was circulated widely)-- he said it was already happening when it was not. BIG difference. He's a fear-monger with an agenda. 

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14 minutes ago, IDBillzFan said:

 

That just underlines my point. The current logic is "It's not perfect, but at least it's not (fill in the blank)."

 

It's not difficult at all to pull the stupid $11B marked for the ADF, IDA, etc. And it's embarrassing anyone would even consider it worth putting in there in the first place.

 

This isn't difficult. But we're just supposed to accept it because it's better than nothing. It sucked when Obama did it and it sucks when Trump and the GOP do it.


You are not wrong.   Not certain who is to blame here... the House for asking for the moon to make settling seem like a "win"? The Senate for not stripping the pork and getting together a better bill to begin with? 

Since it has to pass both the Senate and the House, compromises were always going to happen.  Many people think "ok well, pigs got pork" while others are thinking pass a clean, usable bill that actually helps American small business as well as everyday citizens.  And still others think "Well, at least it is not the House bill!" ---- which could have been the point of the House bill all along?  ?‍♀️


 

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Three more Erie County residents died from Covid-19, bringing the county's death toll to five, County Executive Mark Poloncarz said Thursday night.

Thursday's victims: a female in her 70s, a male in his 70s and a male in his 80s.

A total of 221 people in Erie County have been diagnosed with the coronavirus, an increase of 75 in one day.

And more of them are being hospitalized with the illness.

There were 31 people hospitalized in Erie County as of Wednesday night, Health Commissioner Dr. Gale Burstein said Thursday. Nine were hospitalized Tuesday.

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Across Western New York, the number of confirmed cases increased to 260.

 

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Erie County now accounts for 85% of the region's confirmed cases. The 75 new cases marks the largest one-day increase in confirmed cases in the county so far during the outbreak.

 

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“In light of the recent decisions made by a public news affiliate, SPOG will be live streaming all the White House’s press COVID-19 briefings on our social media channels,” SPOG president Mike Solan said in a statement. “This is not a time to play partisan politics. Seattle community members deserve the most up to date information during this crisis; this includes life saving medical information from our nation’s Surgeon General and top doctors.”

“We, at SPOG, see COVID-19 as a public safety issue and are continuing to do all we can to serve you and protect lives in our community,” he added, echoing sentiment expressed by the White House on NPR’s decision.

“It’s not surprising, but also a failure of their duty to the American people, that some media outlets would choose to block their audiences from receiving accurate, up-to-date information on President Trump’s whole-of-government approach to slowing the spread of COVID-19,” White House deputy press secretary Judd Deere told Daily Caller. “No other Administration has been as transparent and as accessible as this one, and we will continue to make sure this Nation hears from its leaders and top health experts during this global pandemic.”

 

SPOG = Seattle Police Officers Guild

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Confirmed cases of COVID-19 in Monroe County

There are 160 confirmed cases of COVID-19 in Monroe County, where four people have died from the coronavirus.     

There are 12 new confirmed cases of COVID-19 as of 10 a.m. Friday. These new individuals include:

  • 1 Male in his 20s
  • 2 Females in their 20s
  • 2 Females in their 30s
  • 1 Male in his 30s
  • 1 Male in his 40s
  • 1 Female in her 40s
  • 1 Male in his 50s
  • 1 Female in her 60s
  • 1 Male in his 60s
  • 1 Male in his 80s
Confirmed COVID-19 cases by ZIP code as of Thursday, March 26, 2020.

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3 minutes ago, Tiberius said:

Yes, because simply changing to a station that carries it is too difficult. I'm sure the cops sit around listening to NPR

 

Once again, you miss the point.

 

do you think that it makes sense that, "National Public (read: government) Radio" - established by the federal government and funded in some part by federal tax dollars, would not air the President's National Addresses during what is clearly a national crisis?

 

 

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NEW ORLEANS — More than a million dancing, singing, bead-catching celebrants packed the streets of the French Quarter and other venues across this city in the weeks leading up to the sprawling open-air party that is Mardi Gras.

There was little worry during the February festivities about the new virus that had infected a few dozen people in other parts of the country. The city's top health official believed the flu "is far more dangerous right now than the coronavirus," she told the Times-Picayune/New Orleans Advocate newspaper.

Thirteen days later, on March 9, Louisiana reported its first case of covid-19. Then came another, and another. Clusters broke out in several nursing homes. The cases popping up across the state were not easily linked to each other, meaning that a galloping community spread was already underway. A terrible realization began to dawn on residents and political leaders: The famous bonhomie of the world’s biggest free party may have helped supercharge one of the most rapid spreads of the coronavirus, which is now threatening to overwhelm Louisiana’s health-care system and potentially make the state one of the next epicenters.

“We had people from all over the world. We also had the spread of this virus, and people did not realize it was spreading,” said Rebekah Gee, a former state health secretary now on the faculty of Louisiana State University’s medical school. “So people not only caught beads, but they caught covid-19.”

As of Thursday, Louisiana had reported 2,305 cases and 83 deaths related to coronavirus — with about two-thirds of the cases and deaths in the New Orleans metro area. During the first two weeks of known infections, the virus was coursing through Louisiana at an extraordinarily rapid pace, according to an analysis by Gary Wagner, a professor at the University of Louisiana at Lafayette. He found that the rate of growth in that period was the highest in the world.

 

2 minutes ago, dubs said:

 

Once again, you miss the point.

 

do you think that it makes sense that, "National Public (read: government) Radio" - established by the federal government and funded in some part by federal tax dollars, would not air the President's National Addresses during what is clearly a national crisis?

 

 

If it's on a million channels, happens every day and isn't very helpful anyway, who cares. The President himself said this was up to the local communities, he's only there to back up their efforts. So listen to the Governor instead

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10 minutes ago, Tiberius said:

Yes, because simply changing to a station that carries it is too difficult. I'm sure the cops sit around listening to NPR


I was a law enforcement officer for 23 years and listened to NPR plenty. Listened to and read all sides of issues as much as I could - and still do.

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15 minutes ago, dubs said:

 

do you think that it makes sense that, "National Public (read: government) Radio" - established by the federal government and funded in some part by federal tax dollars,

 

 


holy *****, is any of this actually true?

 

 (No)


edit: sorry if that came off as rude.  It was a remarkably false post!

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48 minutes ago, meazza said:

1000 deaths in Italy today.

 

WTF is happening there?

As I understand it, viruses mutate almost constantly.  I wonder if the strain that is present in Italy is different in some important way from what's over here... 

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8 minutes ago, billsfan1959 said:


I was a law enforcement officer for 23 years and listened to NPR plenty. Listened to and read all sides of issues as much as I could - and still do.

So you could just get the press conference on a different station, correct? 

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2 minutes ago, Tiberius said:

So you could just get the press conference on a different station, correct? 

 

I was responding to your typically uninformed and sarcastic statement, "I'm sure the cops sit around listening to NPR."

 

Of course, I don't really need to point that out now, do I?

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