Mark Vader Posted January 20, 2020 Share Posted January 20, 2020 3 minutes ago, TheFunPolice said: After these games McDermott and Beane are going to build an elite DL, stack the roster with offensive talent, find a superstar LB and be more aggressive on offense I believe that, but I don't think @Hapless Bills Fan believes that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne Arnold Posted January 20, 2020 Share Posted January 20, 2020 Should the Packers bench Rodgers at the half? Discuss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davefan66 Posted January 20, 2020 Share Posted January 20, 2020 4 minutes ago, Mark Vader said: Hey, it's the Golden Gate bridge, which is 50 miles away from where the game is being played at, but we have to show it anyway! Same as showing Niagara Falls when we play. Not the same distance, but... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Vader Posted January 20, 2020 Share Posted January 20, 2020 1 minute ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: The way his defense is built. As has been seen this year, it is susceptible to the run So they are not going to put any effort into fixing that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Penfield45 Posted January 20, 2020 Share Posted January 20, 2020 2 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: The 1st TD was a 3rd and 8 draw. Love to see the Bills do that and get stuffed. Imagine the reactions. they would get stuffed bc our oline is still terrible. Beane has tons of work to do to fix this line still. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Real McClappy Posted January 20, 2020 Share Posted January 20, 2020 3 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: The way his defense is built. As has been seen this year, it is susceptible to the run You know Buffalo's run D finished better than SF this year? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted January 20, 2020 Share Posted January 20, 2020 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted January 20, 2020 Share Posted January 20, 2020 1 minute ago, Mark Vader said: So they are not going to put any effort into fixing that. Let’s put this as a question: what do you see as the appropriate effort and fixes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davefan66 Posted January 20, 2020 Share Posted January 20, 2020 After watching the Chiefs, felt like they have a great shot. Not so sure. Niners have a complete team, gonna be tough to beat them. Feel the Niners are holding back a little. Maybe not wanting to show any more than they have to the Chiefs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsherd Posted January 20, 2020 Share Posted January 20, 2020 15 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: Hopefully they give rugby player a fair chance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Putin Posted January 20, 2020 Share Posted January 20, 2020 17 minutes ago, Mark Vader said: Tough to watch I’m enjoying this ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne Arnold Posted January 20, 2020 Share Posted January 20, 2020 Just now, davefan66 said: After watching the Chiefs, felt like they have a great shot. Not so sure. Niners have a complete team, gonna be tough to beat them. Feel the Niners are holding back a little. Maybe not wanting to show any more than they have to the Chiefs? Chiefs by 13 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1st&ten Posted January 20, 2020 Share Posted January 20, 2020 3 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: These 9ers D players can tackle. They are laying the wood on these bums. Yes, I was thinking Mahomes better be careful when he scrambles against these guys, they might just plant him. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted January 20, 2020 Share Posted January 20, 2020 Erin Andrews still got it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davefan66 Posted January 20, 2020 Share Posted January 20, 2020 Just now, Wayne Arnold said: Chiefs by 13 I don’t think so. Niners have the better defense. Not as explosive on offense, but can still control the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Vader Posted January 20, 2020 Share Posted January 20, 2020 Just now, Hapless Bills Fan said: Let’s put this as a question: what do you see as the appropriate effort and fixes? Bring in the best players fit for the job, which is all they can do and what they have been doing. I trust Beane to do his work. I have no reason to doubt that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted January 20, 2020 Share Posted January 20, 2020 Just now, Mark Vader said: Bring in the best players fit for the job, which is all they can do and what they have been doing. I trust Beane to do his work. I have no reason to doubt that. I would draft for the OL or DL in the 1st every year like SF. Skill players in the 2nd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted January 20, 2020 Share Posted January 20, 2020 1 minute ago, Mark Vader said: Bring in the best players fit for the job, which is all they can do and what they have been doing. I trust Beane to do his work. I have no reason to doubt that. Nice non-answer. The point, as several have pointed out, is that McD’s scheme is designed to defend the pass first, and can be vulnerable to the run for the same reasons that make it a tough pass D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Vader Posted January 20, 2020 Share Posted January 20, 2020 Sherman tries to trip Parker what a creep! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne Arnold Posted January 20, 2020 Share Posted January 20, 2020 2 minutes ago, davefan66 said: I don’t think so. Niners have the better defense. Not as explosive on offense, but can still control the game. They're not stopping the Chiefs offense on a neutral field. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Putin Posted January 20, 2020 Share Posted January 20, 2020 2 minutes ago, davefan66 said: After watching the Chiefs, felt like they have a great shot. Not so sure. Niners have a complete team, gonna be tough to beat them. Feel the Niners are holding back a little. Maybe not wanting to show any more than they have to the Chiefs? One thing fore sure this will be a MUCH better SB then the last one as far entertainment , and the cheatriots not being there makes it even sweeter 4 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCbillsfan Posted January 20, 2020 Share Posted January 20, 2020 22 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: Like I said ....If McDermott and Beane think we can win a championship without a solid run D they had best Think Again In your opinion, what do Bills need in order to have a solid run D? They seem stuck with Star at least one more year do to his cap number. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted January 20, 2020 Share Posted January 20, 2020 Just now, Putin said: One thing fore sure this will be a MUCH better SB then the last one as far entertainment , and the cheatriots not being there makes it even sweeter I am with you on no cheatriots for sweetness 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Vader Posted January 20, 2020 Share Posted January 20, 2020 1 minute ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: Nice non-answer. The point, as several have pointed out, is that McD’s scheme is designed to defend the pass first, and can be vulnerable to the run for the same reasons that make it a tough pass D What the Hell do you want from me?! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davefan66 Posted January 20, 2020 Share Posted January 20, 2020 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Wayne Arnold said: They're not stopping the Chiefs offense on a neutral field. Control the ball on offense and a sound defense. Niners have an excellent chance to win. Ultimately, doesn’t matter to me who wins. I am more of a Niners fan, but wouldn’t hate a Chiefs win. Edited January 20, 2020 by davefan66 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted January 20, 2020 Share Posted January 20, 2020 Just now, DCbillsfan said: In your opinion, what do Bills need in order to have a solid run D? They seem stuck with Star at least one more year do to his cap number. you didn’t ask me - but I think playing Ed Oliver more is one way. He was great against the run and Jordan Phillips is not. I know they like their rotation but when teams caught Phillips and Liuget on the field at the same time they knew they could run. Getting Harry back will help too. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne Arnold Posted January 20, 2020 Share Posted January 20, 2020 2 minutes ago, Putin said: One thing fore sure this will be a MUCH better SB then the last one as far entertainment , and the cheatriots not being there makes it even sweeter And no team with a make-believe fanbase. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFunPolice Posted January 20, 2020 Share Posted January 20, 2020 This is my favorite ref for penalty announcements Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted January 20, 2020 Share Posted January 20, 2020 3 minutes ago, Mark Vader said: What the Hell do you want from me?! Maybe a bit of understanding of what the issues are? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Vader Posted January 20, 2020 Share Posted January 20, 2020 Just now, Hapless Bills Fan said: Maybe a bit of understanding of what the issues are? At least I gave you an answer. You never once answered any of my questions. You don't have to be a dick about it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted January 20, 2020 Share Posted January 20, 2020 4 minutes ago, Mark Vader said: What the Hell do you want from me?! What do ya got? That’s where we should start! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCbillsfan Posted January 20, 2020 Share Posted January 20, 2020 11 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: you didn’t ask me - but I think playing Ed Oliver more is one way. He was great against the run and Jordan Phillips is not. I know they like their rotation but when teams caught Phillips and Liuget on the field at the same time they knew they could run. Getting Harry back will help too. I agree about Harry and Oliver. Need to sign free agent that's better than Liuget. I'm assuming Jordan Phillips is leaving. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted January 20, 2020 Share Posted January 20, 2020 2 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: you didn’t ask me - but I think playing Ed Oliver more is one way. He was great against the run and Jordan Phillips is not. I know they like their rotation but when teams caught Phillips and Liuget on the field at the same time they knew they could run. Getting Harry back will help too. That’ll help, but the unanswered questions are 1) whether Edmunds will improve vs the run, because they seem deeply committed to him at MLB 2) whether they can build a DT rotation that isn’t susceptible because I don’t see McD going to 100% Oliver/Phillips 3) defense vs screen plays Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne Arnold Posted January 20, 2020 Share Posted January 20, 2020 6 minutes ago, davefan66 said: Control the ball on offense and a sound defense. Niners have an excellent chance to win. Ultimately, doesn’t matter to me who wins. I am more of a Niners fan, but wouldn’t hate a Chiefs win. Yeah I'd prefer Chiefs because of Andy Reid but I just want to see a good game. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted January 20, 2020 Share Posted January 20, 2020 4 minutes ago, Mark Vader said: At least I gave you an answer. You never once answered any of my questions. You don't have to be a dick about it. Dude, your answer was the sarcastic “So they are not going to put any effort into fixing that.” And when I call you on that being a non-answer because part of the issue is how they’ve built the LB corps with key draftees, you say you’ve given an answer and I’m being a “dick”? Seriously? Srsly? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted January 20, 2020 Share Posted January 20, 2020 1 minute ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: That’ll help, but the unanswered questions are 1) whether Edmunds will improve vs the run, because they seem deeply committed to him at MLB 2) whether they can build a DT rotation that isn’t susceptible because I don’t see McD going to 100% Oliver/Phillips 3) defense vs screen plays One thing that will not help imo is moving on from Shaq. I hope they don’t. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted January 20, 2020 Share Posted January 20, 2020 With the rise of Mostert I wonder if Coleman will be available as he's pry a cap casualty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted January 20, 2020 Share Posted January 20, 2020 I don’t think the Bills are alone here as far as run D. The league went pass happy, largely due to rules. The league wants scoring and excitement (A/K/A RATINGS.) Your LB’s look more like big safety’s, you get lighter and faster to defend the pass, which opens you up to getting pounded by a power running game. The pendulum swings both ways. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted January 20, 2020 Share Posted January 20, 2020 Just now, YoloinOhio said: One thing that will not help imo is moving on from Shaq. I hope they don’t. Agreed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jkeerie Posted January 20, 2020 Share Posted January 20, 2020 1 minute ago, Doc Brown said: With the rise of Mostert I wonder if Coleman will be available as he's pry a cap casualty. Don't they also have the back they signed from Minnesota that can't stay healthy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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