stuvian Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/bills-2020-outlook-buffalo-is-on-the-rise-but-dont-count-out-the-possibility-of-a-2019-bears-type-season/ 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mango Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 Sounds about right. There are some things in common between Mitch and Josh. I think JA will turn out to be the better player. 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zow2 Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 I thought the same thing. I’m not a fan of Trubisky at all so I hope Josh turns out to be much much better. The jury is still out though. What I saw this year is that Josh may never be a stand-in-the-pocket and pick the D apart kind of QB. I’m not sure if he will ever find the touch on those deep throws. Yes he can scramble and make the occasional wow play, but I’m curious if he will make a leap in 2020. He needs to or the Bills will not get to that next level of success 2 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 Meh. A lot of our distinguished membership has been predicting the same as CBS since 2019 week 8. ? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackFlutie Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 2 minutes ago, zow2 said: I thought the same thing. I’m not a fan of Trubisky at all so I hope Josh turns out to be much much better. The jury is still out though. What I saw this year is that Josh may never be a stand-in-the-pocket and pick the D apart kind of QB. I’m not sure if he will ever find the touch on those deep throws. Yes he can scramble and make the occasional wow play, but I’m curious if he will make a leap in 2020. He needs to or the Bills will not get to that next level of success He will or he'll be cut. You understand the offense we run, right? 1 minute ago, Ridgewaycynic2013 said: Meh. A lot of our distinguished membership has been predicting the same as CBS since 2019 week 8. ? Sigh. Yep. Lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 Easy to make that comparison but it’s flawed if they do even a little research. The bears D was #1 in turnovers in 2018 and it fueled a lot of their success. Turnovers aren’t sustainable. The Bills D is a consistently performing unit that doesn’t depend on turnovers. Also 2018 was the year the bears already gave Mitch his #1 WR and had Jordan Howard. They let Howard go and their OL was much worse this year too. Bills are not done building the offense. 18 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fansince88 Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 We improve next year after 2/3rd of this page is mad that they let their favorite players walk. This staff will improve. Not even worried. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 Just now, YoloinOhio said: Turnovers aren’t sustainable. Very true. Eventually, your dietician says “Lay off them, try fresh fruits.” 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 Good podcast that dives into this lazy comparison 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atlbillsfan1975 Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 (edited) 9 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: Good podcast that dives into this lazy comparison Listened to that as well. Did a good job pointing out how the Bills team isn’t the 2017 Jags or 2018 Bears. When you live off turnovers for points, like the Cheating Pats did this year, you have more room for regression. I didn’t look into the Pats numbers deeper. I know off the top of my head the Bills game and I believe in the Bengals game they were aided by ST turnovers. Bills are on the way up. Someone should do a dive into NE ways of winning this year. I bet it’s not sustainable. Edited January 12, 2020 by atlbillsfan1975 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan1959 Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 5 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: Easy to make that comparison but it’s flawed if they do even a little research. The bears D was #1 in turnovers in 2018 and it fueled a lot of their success. Turnovers aren’t sustainable. The Bills D is a consistently performing unit that doesn’t depend on turnovers. Also 2018 was the year the bears already gave Mitch his #1 WR and had Jordan Howard. They let Howard go and their OL was much worse this year too. Bills are not done building the offense. It is a lazy comparison. Doesn't surprise me at all. If there is a chance to compare Allen's play to any QB or situation with a positive outlook versus a negative outlook, you can count on the negative comparison about 90 percent of the time. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 1 minute ago, billsfan1959 said: It is a lazy comparison. Doesn't surprise me at all. If there is a chance to compare Allen's play to any QB or situation with a positive outlook versus a negative outlook, you can count on the negative comparison about 90 percent of the time. Also the Bears had already added their big time pass rusher in 2018. Bills have not yet but hopefully will this year. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
123719bwiqrb Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 They could say the same thing about the Ravens. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 "Sean Wagner-McGough joined CBS Sports in 2015 after graduating from UC Berkeley. A native of Seattle..." So, in other words, he watched at most two Bills games this season--at Dallas and Pittsburgh. It's lazy to trot out synthetic stats like QBR and not mention the ones that actually do matter--4th quarter comebacks, third down conversions, etc. Even the Beasly clip he uses to show how innaccurate Josh is--where he's being blitzed and can't step into the throw--is bupkis. Articles like this are like the packing peanuts that come with the expensive vase you bought mom for Chistmas. Nobody pays attention to them, yet they make a real mess and never seem to get completely thrown out... 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloMatt Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 I hate the off season 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rc2catch Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 16 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: Easy to make that comparison but it’s flawed if they do even a little research. The bears D was #1 in turnovers in 2018 and it fueled a lot of their success. Turnovers aren’t sustainable. The Bills D is a consistently performing unit that doesn’t depend on turnovers. Also 2018 was the year the bears already gave Mitch his #1 WR and had Jordan Howard. They let Howard go and their OL was much worse this year too. Bills are not done building the offense. And they made Tarik Cohen a focal point of the offense which skewed Trubiskys numbers with all those dump off big plays, this year it’s like they forgot Cohen was on the team for multiple games at a time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleedbuffaloblue Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 6 minutes ago, atlbillsfan1975 said: Listened to that as well. Did a good job pointing out how the Bills team isn’t the 2017 Jags or 2018 Bears. When you live off turnovers for points, like the Cheating Pats did this year, you have more room for regression. I didn’t look into the Pats numbers deeper. I know off the top of my head the Bills game and I believe the Bengals game they were aided by ST turnover. Bills are on the way up. Someone should do a dive into NE ways of winning this year. I bet it’s not sustainable. Also the Browns game. Chubb was fumbling all over the place in the early part of that game! Killed any chances for the Brownies and the Pats capitalized. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
US Egg Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 Comparing Buffalo to Bears ? .....never had bear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldmanfan Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 1 minute ago, I am the egg man said: Comparing Buffalo to Bears ? .....never had bear. Tastes like chicken Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleedbuffaloblue Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 No way we go backwards like the Bears did. Josh is already better than Tribusky and will only get better with his work ethic. We’ve already seen the best of MT and he has nowhere To go, but down. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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