transplantbillsfan Posted January 1, 2020 Share Posted January 1, 2020 https://theathletic.com/1498047/2019/12/31/bills-all-22-review-why-the-film-shows-duke-williams-should-be-active-in-the-playoffs-and-2-young-defenders-show-potential?source=shared-article 1. Why Duke Williams should be active vs. the Texans over Robert Foster Immediately following Duke Williams’ six-catch, 108-yard game against the Jets, I was hesitant to think the Bills would change course at wide receiver. They aren’t prone to impulsive decisions from only one week of evidence, and Robert Foster has turned into a significant contributor on special-teams coverage units. However, after digging into the film (...) the Bills should make Williams active over Foster. (...)Foster [has] always been lacking is in the overall deception of his routes. There is no doubting the player’s speed, and that element of his game is the reason the Bills have continued to go back to him. However, in non-deep ball situations, there is little opportunity for effectiveness with a varying route tree. The cornerback can easily decipher what Foster is doing with his footwork and body language (..) Williams (...) made a handful of mistakes against the Jets (two drops, running a route short, whiffing on a run blocking opportunity), what he provided as a route runner and playmaker far outweighed them. Williams isn’t the quickest of receivers, though he makes up for it with his footwork. He gives his quarterbacks a throwing window by deceiving the cornerback at the top of his route. The double-move Williams ran at the end of the game to get him open for a 41-yard gain is something we haven’t seen from Foster the entire season. (...) He can make difficult plays in the tough areas of the field that require physicality that neither Foster nor Isaiah McKenzie has shown a consistent ability to do. Williams also delivered a helmet-twisting block (...) At this point, Williams is a better offensive threat than Foster, and the Bills should adjust accordingly. Williams is not the best on special teams, and it’s part of the reason why he was inactive from Week 8 through Week 16. However, either Taron Johnson or Kevin Johnson can fill in capably for Foster as the primary punt gunner. It would allow the Bills to implement a two-pronged attack with their third receiver, using the different skill sets of Williams and McKenzie to keep the Texans on their toes. [Edited for excessive copyright material -mod] 5 3 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted January 1, 2020 Share Posted January 1, 2020 And that’s the GIF you pick? Pssssh. Weak 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted January 1, 2020 Share Posted January 1, 2020 Weird how Foster can’t really fool the DBs when running deep routes, yet has enough moves to juke and run free as a gunner apparently? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Otreply Posted January 1, 2020 Share Posted January 1, 2020 Well, there you have it folks, it has become Main Stream obvious, Duke Williams should be active and used in our offense, this has been very obvious to many off us here and in the greater Bills world for quite some time now. Now maybe, just maybe those who have not seen the forest through the trees might just notice the shrubbery.... Go Bills!!! 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1st Ammendment NoMas Posted January 1, 2020 Share Posted January 1, 2020 Maybe McD and Beaner will finally read the board and adjust accordingly. 3 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CSBill Posted January 1, 2020 Share Posted January 1, 2020 And what did they say about Jaquan Johnson? And Neal? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott7975 Posted January 1, 2020 Share Posted January 1, 2020 Been saying this all year. Duke provides an element to the offense they simply don't have in any other player. They aren't going to lose that much on ST if they don't have Foster. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobbRiddicksTDLeap Posted January 1, 2020 Share Posted January 1, 2020 2 hours ago, JR in Pittsburgh said: Weird how Foster can’t really fool the DBs when running deep routes, yet has enough moves to juke and run free as a gunner apparently? That sort of makes sense. Getting separation on a go route, is different than a crossing pattern or a dig route, or splitting defenders. Gunning is pretty much a go route. Use your hands to get off your block and run like the wind. John Brown and Cole Beasley are really the only route runners in the WR room. That’s not good when only one of them has good hands. That alone is the reason why this offense struggles. Get reliable pass catchers and this offense scores at least 10 more points a game. Im not saying Duke Williams is that. Not even close. But we know that Foster, McKenzie, and Roberts, certainly are not getting it done. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted January 1, 2020 Share Posted January 1, 2020 2 hours ago, JR in Pittsburgh said: Weird how Foster can’t really fool the DBs when running deep routes, yet has enough moves to juke and run free as a gunner apparently? The moral of the story is this coaching staff clearly values all those amazing fumble recoveries and TDs generated by the ST over any improvement on Offense. And apparently many Bills fans agree with this Philosophy. Yes this response is dripping in sarcasm. 1 2 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted January 1, 2020 Share Posted January 1, 2020 2 hours ago, Don Otreply said: Well, there you have it folks, it has become Main Stream obvious, Duke Williams should be active and used in our offense, this has been very obvious to many off us here and in the greater Bills world for quite some time now. Now maybe, just maybe those who have not seen the forest through the trees might just notice the shrubbery.... Go Bills!!! Now, now, that cannot be said with certainty without at least two dozen more Duke threads. Stop jumping to conclusions! We need more threads to confirm this! 1 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transplantbillsfan Posted January 1, 2020 Author Share Posted January 1, 2020 3 hours ago, NewEra said: And that’s the GIF you pick? Pssssh. Weak And you would have gone with...? 2 hours ago, BillsRdue said: Maybe McD and Beaner will finally read the board and adjust accordingly. In this case, they could have read The Athletic's weekly All-22 review. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
offyourocker Posted January 1, 2020 Share Posted January 1, 2020 They seem really hard headed on some players sometimes 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albany,n.y. Posted January 1, 2020 Share Posted January 1, 2020 (edited) After reading the article I have to say Beane is killing it in the draft, hitting on mid-late rounders as well as the early guys. The mantle as top GM was vacated when Ozzie Newsome retired after the 2018 season (that is after his 2018 draft class made the 2019 Ravens the AFC best team based on the regular season record) and Beane is right up there reaching for the torch Ozzie left behind. The 2018 & 2019 draft classes are the type you look back on after a Super Bowl win and point to those drafts. We already have 4 starters from the 2019 draft (although Ford may end up at guard) and 3 other players with promise & a guy on IR who we'll see next year. Not bad for 8 picks. Edited January 1, 2020 by Albany,n.y. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Otreply Posted January 1, 2020 Share Posted January 1, 2020 29 minutes ago, Augie said: Now, now, that cannot be said with certainty without at least two dozen more Duke threads. Stop jumping to conclusions! We need more threads to confirm this! No we don’t ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ticketssince61 Posted January 1, 2020 Share Posted January 1, 2020 1 hour ago, Albany,n.y. said: After reading the article I have to say Beane is killing it in the draft, hitting on mid-late rounders as well as the early guys. The mantle as top GM was vacated when Ozzie Newsome retired after the 2018 season (that is after his 2018 draft class made the 2019 Ravens the AFC best team based on the regular season record) and Beane is right up there reaching for the torch Ozzie left behind. The 2018 & 2019 draft classes are the type you look back on after a Super Bowl win and point to those drafts. We already have 4 starters from the 2019 draft (although Ford may end up at guard) and 3 other players with promise & a guy on IR who we'll see next year. Not bad for 8 picks. It is alot more than 8 picks: - Allen was 4 (?) - Edmunds was 2 - Ford was 2 - Knox was 2 So it was really 15 picks 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldschoolfootball1963 Posted January 1, 2020 Share Posted January 1, 2020 (edited) Just confirming what we already know. Not only should Duke be starting but Sweeney should be in there with knox when the Bills go to 2 TE sets. Also put Singletary and Yeldon on the field at the same time. This is so easy to see. Maybe our coaching staff will wise up. We need points not a fullback or TE that just blocks. Sean McDermott started Peterman out of the blue against the Chargers 2 years ago and benched Tyrod. Maybe lighting will strike twice. We need to score, wtf is wrong with the Bills flood the field with your best weapons and let’s attack. Edited January 1, 2020 by oldschoolfootball1963 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mykidsdad Posted January 1, 2020 Share Posted January 1, 2020 Poor specilal teams plus poor execution on blockingassignment equals more bench time. Love William's for the future, but he either breaks into the top 3 WR or he becomes a better special teamer. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted January 1, 2020 Share Posted January 1, 2020 3 hours ago, transplantbillsfan said: And you would have gone with...? In this case, they could have read The Athletic's weekly All-22 review. Anything but Floribama 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted January 1, 2020 Share Posted January 1, 2020 So we are thin at corner and the Athletic thinks one of our healthy ones should be used as a gunner? Yea.... not happening. If they are activating Duke the way I see you do it is by sitting a tight end and having all 6 receivers up. Roberts and Foster are not really up for offense they are up for special teams and I think making a significant change to your special teams groupings in a playoff game is fraught with danger. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProcessTruster Posted January 1, 2020 Share Posted January 1, 2020 3 hours ago, mykidsdad said: Poor specilal teams plus poor execution on blockingassignment equals more bench time. Love William's for the future, but he either breaks into the top 3 WR or he becomes a better special teamer. yeah Duke is nothing but a slower, bigger pass catcher who can't yet do anything else.. With limited roster sizes, If you are not a top 2 wideout or a top 2 DB , on most teams you better be a strong blocker or strong on special teams, neither of which Duke is remotely close to being. Playoff football is field position football, and what I see is we have a somewhat limited, but improving talent and therefore (IMO) field position management team, and special teams is all about gaining field position advantage. If a team like the Bills just rolls out anyone on ST they will lose the special teams field position battle and be at a bigger disadvantage than super talented teams that can just still score a bunch of points regardless of field position.. Bills obviously do not yet have the roster on offense to do that. just my view 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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