Albany,n.y. Posted December 24, 2019 Share Posted December 24, 2019 (edited) 38 minutes ago, Rc2catch said: It’s got nothing to do with me. It wasn’t about the guys I mentioned other than why they get praise and not criticized for missed throws etc etc . Any quarterback drafted top 10 as a raw project who is inaccurate who had long term success. I’m an Allen fan. But I have an outside perspective. There is no success story in anyone who has faced what Allen is up against. Doesn’t mean I want him to fail or none of that. He has not won big games. That doesn’t make me an enemy or an Allen hater or a bills hater just objective I don't buy the raw/innacurate assessment so I can't agree with your view. You can call just about every QB coming out of college raw. Eli Manning was very inaccurate his 1st 2 years, hitting fewer than 52% of his passes. So if you want an example of a guy who by your definition who "faced what Allen is up against" I give you Eli Manning, 2x Super Bowl MVP and considered by many a future Hall of Famer. PS: Q: Who was considered the most pro-ready of all the 2018 1st rounders? A: Josh Rosen, a guy who was dumped after 1 season by the team who drafted him and is bolted to the bench in Miami. These raw/NFL ready labels on prospects are nonsense. Edited December 24, 2019 by Albany,n.y. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sig1Hunter Posted December 24, 2019 Share Posted December 24, 2019 (edited) 23 minutes ago, PetermansRedemption said: is that new “hot” defensive sack celebration wiping snot? Or is it something I’m missing? I have seen a lot of defensive players do it after a sack and I just don’t get it. Oh, I was under the impression that it was the “Archuleta” celebration. Oops. “wiping the stank off” Edited December 24, 2019 by Sig1Hunter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJB Posted December 24, 2019 Share Posted December 24, 2019 Daboll better be watching this game. Hopefully he sees how effective the quick slant is to pick up 5 yards and move the chains. Its something many if us have been calling for all season long Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirAndrew Posted December 24, 2019 Share Posted December 24, 2019 Talk about Rodger’s decline all you want, but this Packers offense is really conservative under LeFleur. Lots of screen plays and runs. McCarthy was a disaster, but I’m not sure this is how I’d utilize Rodgers either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuvian Posted December 24, 2019 Share Posted December 24, 2019 1 minute ago, SirAndrew said: Talk about Rodger’s decline all you want, but this Packers offense is really conservative under LeFleur. Lots of screen plays and runs. McCarthy was a disaster, but I’m not sure this is how I’d utilize Rodgers either. They're sucking all the way to a 12 win season 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rc2catch Posted December 24, 2019 Share Posted December 24, 2019 (edited) 10 minutes ago, Albany,n.y. said: I don't buy the raw/innacurate assessment so I can't agree with your view. You can call just about every QB coming out of college raw. Eli Manning was very inaccurate his 1st 2 years, hitting fewer than 52% of his passes. So if you want an example of a guy who by your definition who "faced what Allen is up against" I give you Eli Manning, 2x Super Bowl MVP and considered by many a future Hall of Famer. I think you’re really missing the point or just choose to only read certain things. Eli Manning was a top prospect and was considered pro ready. And his brother didn’t hurt either. He was in the running for the heisman. Little different than Allen in college. Edited December 24, 2019 by Rc2catch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirAndrew Posted December 24, 2019 Share Posted December 24, 2019 (edited) 9 minutes ago, stuvian said: They're sucking all the way to a 12 win season They’re playing good football, I’m just speaking to the fact that some believe Rodgers has declined. I think it has more to do with the offensive scheme, and what’s being asked of him. Edited December 24, 2019 by SirAndrew Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albany,n.y. Posted December 24, 2019 Share Posted December 24, 2019 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Rc2catch said: I think you’re really missing the point or just choose to only read certain things. Eli Manning was a top prospect and was considered pro ready. And his brother didn’t hurt either. He was in the running for the heisman. And Eli looked like hot garbage as a rookie & had a poor completion % his 2nd season. I'm not missing the point, I'm not buying your premise. I believe your point is wrong. If you think someone who disagrees with you is missing the point, then I'm missing your wrong point. I added to my post after you quoted me. Josh Rosen was considered pro ready & he's a bust. Every QB when he enters the NFL can be labeled raw. Every QB with a low completion % can be called inaccurate. I really don't care what people, you included, have labeled Josh Allen-I don't agree with your labels. Edited December 24, 2019 by Albany,n.y. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted December 24, 2019 Share Posted December 24, 2019 Just need Boone to get like 3 more points to win my fantasy league. Don't think it's going to happen... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rc2catch Posted December 24, 2019 Share Posted December 24, 2019 2 minutes ago, Albany,n.y. said: And Eli looked like hot garbage as a rookie & had a poor completion % his 2nd season. I'm not missing the point, I'm not buying your premise. I believe your point is wrong. If you think someone who disagrees with you is missing the point, then I'm missing your wrong point. I added to my post after you quoted me. Josh Rosen was considered pro ready & he's a bust. Every QB when he enters the NFL can be labeled raw. Every QB with a low completion % can be called inaccurate. I really don't care what people, you included, have labeled Josh Allen-I don't agree with your labels. Ok buddy. Before I say something that gets me in trouble. Merry Christmas to you and yours. I’ll agree to disagree and leave it be. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
May Day 10 Posted December 24, 2019 Share Posted December 24, 2019 Cousins is really terrible Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teddy KGB Posted December 24, 2019 Share Posted December 24, 2019 Blindside block penalty. Lmao What a bunch of crap that is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
london_bills Posted December 24, 2019 Share Posted December 24, 2019 1 minute ago, May Day 10 said: Cousins is really terrible If you married kirk cousins cousin, you wouldn't be cousins with kirk cousins right? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
May Day 10 Posted December 24, 2019 Share Posted December 24, 2019 41 minutes ago, stuvian said: Vikings playcalling is bizarre and ineffective Loved that weird theilen off tackle run Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatdrought Posted December 24, 2019 Share Posted December 24, 2019 I know the 0-9 MNF thing is overdone, but Cousins does look like ***** every time I watch him on mondays.... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dablitzkrieg Posted December 24, 2019 Share Posted December 24, 2019 (edited) Minnesota is lost without Cook. Rodgers had a running game finally. That is all. Both will not go far in the playoffs. SF or NO out of the NFC Edited December 24, 2019 by Dablitzkrieg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted December 24, 2019 Share Posted December 24, 2019 7 hours ago, Iron Maiden said: I'm in probably the 0.001% who enjoyed Miller...it was like listening to a guy on mushrooms on National TV..... I like Miller the comedian. His style of comedy didn't translate well to the booth though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProcessTruster Posted December 24, 2019 Share Posted December 24, 2019 10 hours ago, Giuseppe Tognarelli said: I was going to post the same thoughts. And now an INT. Yet zero criticism from the announcers. If this were Allen, we'd be hearing all about his fatal flaws. Rodgers is definitely a player in decline. the national media is still reading from the same sheets ; he's inaccurate, blah blah. once they write the book on you, it never changes. Just win games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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