Lurker Posted December 22, 2019 Posted December 22, 2019 On 12/22/2019 at 6:20 PM, Mark Vader said: Can we swap Jason Croom for George Kittle too? Expand Absolutely. It's TSW. How about Daniell Hunter for Trent Murphy... 1
TAinLack. Posted December 22, 2019 Posted December 22, 2019 (edited) Y.A. Tiddle (resurrected).., love the cagey veterans!!! Edited December 22, 2019 by TAinLA spelling 1
Mango Posted December 22, 2019 Posted December 22, 2019 On 12/22/2019 at 5:42 PM, Max Fischer said: Maybe, but I don't believe he's clearly better than Josh Allen. Expand Will he be? I don’t know. Maybe. Hopefully. Is Watson better than Josh today...absolutely and it’s not close
Brianmoorman4jesus Posted December 22, 2019 Posted December 22, 2019 all things considered for sure -Mahomes -Watson -Wentz -Rogers (even if it’s only for a few years nfl windows are small) -Stafford -Wilson Guys I’d think about -Lamar Jackson -Prescott -Matt Ryan -Brees for a 2 year run with this defense
TH3 Posted December 22, 2019 Posted December 22, 2019 On 12/22/2019 at 5:33 PM, Max Fischer said: I think a helpful way to evaluate Josh Allen, his progress to date and his potential for the next few years is to determine which QBs you would swap for right now. My list: 1. Mahomes 2. Lamar Jackson 3. Russell Wilson That's probably it. Yes, Brady, Brees and Rodgers are great but they are 42, 40 and 36. With Josh, I believe the Bills are in a pretty good spot at QB. He "might" not get any better but over the past two season there is a lot of evidence he will continue to improve. No idea if he will lead the Bills to a Super Bowl over the next three years but I like our chances with Josh than any other QB but the three above. Expand Wishing for something you can’t have.....is....actually.....not helpful 1
Real McClappy Posted December 22, 2019 Posted December 22, 2019 Pretty much only Watson here as well.
Ethan in Cleveland Posted December 22, 2019 Posted December 22, 2019 I'm sticking with Josh, but if I had to it would be Aaron Rodgers for the next three years. Followed by Wilson and Mahomes.
Max Fischer Posted December 22, 2019 Author Posted December 22, 2019 On 12/22/2019 at 6:33 PM, Iron Maiden said: At this current junction, Watson is clearly better than Josh....but him and the 3 you mentioned in the OP are probably it....I think the jury is still out on K Murray....but I wouldn't swap with Arizona at this point.... Expand I think "clearly" is certainly debatable. On 12/22/2019 at 6:50 PM, TH3 said: Wishing for something you can’t have.....is....actually.....not helpful Expand Of course it is, it helps level set all the bitching.
Mr. WEO Posted December 22, 2019 Posted December 22, 2019 On 12/22/2019 at 5:36 PM, Watkins101 said: At this point in time, Watson has to be on that list- he has shown the ability to completely take over and dominate a game against good defenses. Expand huh? Against Baltimore and Denver he racked up 1 TD and 3 INTs. In his last 3 games: 3 TDs 5 INTs. 5 games this year with zero TDs. You can have him.
TheFunPolice Posted December 22, 2019 Posted December 22, 2019 My list is short: Mahomes Wilson That's it 1
Real McClappy Posted December 22, 2019 Posted December 22, 2019 On 12/22/2019 at 7:00 PM, Mr. WEO said: huh? Against Baltimore and Denver he racked up 1 TD and 3 INTs. In his last 3 games: 3 TDs 5 INTs. 5 games this year with zero TDs. You can have him. Expand SO his career is summed up in 3 games? How about 9000 all purpose yards the last 2 seasons, a 21-10 record with a 68 completion percentage. Ohh, and playoffs 2years in a row as full time starter. 1
Iron Maiden Posted December 22, 2019 Posted December 22, 2019 On 12/22/2019 at 6:53 PM, Max Fischer said: I think "clearly" is certainly debatable. Of course it is, it helps level set all the bitching. Expand "Clearly" might be too strong of a word....but the question was whether or not we would swap QBs...Watson might not be " clearly" better, but he's certainly slightly better...therefore, I would make that trade in a second !
Scott7975 Posted December 22, 2019 Posted December 22, 2019 On 12/22/2019 at 5:33 PM, Max Fischer said: I think a helpful way to evaluate Josh Allen, his progress to date and his potential for the next few years is to determine which QBs you would swap for right now. My list: 1. Mahomes 2. Lamar Jackson 3. Russell Wilson That's probably it. Yes, Brady, Brees and Rodgers are great but they are 42, 40 and 36. With Josh, I believe the Bills are in a pretty good spot at QB. He "might" not get any better but over the past two season there is a lot of evidence he will continue to improve. No idea if he will lead the Bills to a Super Bowl over the next three years but I like our chances with Josh than any other QB but the three above. Expand I would swap Lamar with Watson. Unless everything Lamar has is coming with him, I don't see him doing so well here. There are other guys I would take in their prime but not now at the end of their careers. Otherwise, there aren't really any QBs I can think of that I would trade Allen for right now.
BarleyNY Posted December 22, 2019 Posted December 22, 2019 (edited) On 12/22/2019 at 5:33 PM, Max Fischer said: I think a helpful way to evaluate Josh Allen, his progress to date and his potential for the next few years is to determine which QBs you would swap for right now. My list: 1. Mahomes 2. Lamar Jackson 3. Russell Wilson That's probably it. Yes, Brady, Brees and Rodgers are great but they are 42, 40 and 36. With Josh, I believe the Bills are in a pretty good spot at QB. He "might" not get any better but over the past two season there is a lot of evidence he will continue to improve. No idea if he will lead the Bills to a Super Bowl over the next three years but I like our chances with Josh than any other QB but the three above. Expand That’s insane On 12/22/2019 at 7:05 PM, TheFunPolice said: My list is short: Mahomes Wilson That's it Expand That’s even more insane On 12/22/2019 at 7:34 PM, Dr.Sack said: Mahomes. Expand And yet more insane. The homers are really out in this thread. Edited December 22, 2019 by BarleyNY 2
Mr. WEO Posted December 22, 2019 Posted December 22, 2019 On 12/22/2019 at 6:53 PM, Real McNasty said: Pretty much only Watson here as well. Expand On 12/22/2019 at 7:06 PM, Real McNasty said: SO his career is summed up in 3 games? How about 9000 all purpose yards the last 2 seasons, a 21-10 record with a 68 completion percentage. Ohh, and playoffs 2years in a row as full time starter. Expand Call it a trajectory. I mentioned this season re: 5 games zero TDs and poor showing vs top Ds. You would take him "only" over Mahomes and Wilson?? Like I said, you can have him
mannc Posted December 22, 2019 Posted December 22, 2019 Why do people feel the need to start these asinine threads? We aren’t swapping QBs with anyone. 1
Success Posted December 22, 2019 Posted December 22, 2019 I’d take Allen over anyone. I get that this is pure homer talk, but the guy was born to play in Buffalo. He was a Bill before he became a Bill. 1
Real McClappy Posted December 22, 2019 Posted December 22, 2019 On 12/22/2019 at 7:54 PM, Mr. WEO said: Call it a trajectory. I mentioned this season re: 5 games zero TDs and poor showing vs top Ds. You would take him "only" over Mahomes and Wilson?? Like I said, you can have him Expand WIlson is a baller. I didn't pop him up just based off age. I look at Mahomes as if he played with us now under the same conditions. I honestly don't believe he'd be playing better than Allen is here now. I also, think Allen has a higher ceiling overall. Houston is a an odd team no doubt. I hope the bad Texans show up when we (most likely) play them in the WC playoffs game in a couple weeks. I don't want to see the Texans team that beat the Chiefs and Pats this year. Either way I still take Watson all day. If the Texans actually give this dude a a good oline sky is the limit for him. He's been sacked 106 times in 2 years there.
davefan66 Posted December 22, 2019 Posted December 22, 2019 I stick with Josh. Plenty of teams and their fan base wishing they had a QB as good as him.
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